70s pics when Hunters were Hunters

[bosox]

SHF–has talent!

Having read the book, where it stated (still does) that the CR was an intermediate release, I didn’t understand what was going on… Should I say, I still don’t :lol:

I have a YOUNGer eventing instructor–who is teaching this older 34 year old to event. She is always saying “Watch your release”–She grew up when being taught the CR is the correct type of release. I guess she didn’t get to her PC manuals which talks about the automatic release as an advance release and much harder to do then a CR. I look forward to the time when my daughter starts to learn how to jump out of hand.

SporthorseFilly—I LOVE THE PIX on your website w/o stirrups…THAT IS TALENT!

http://www.herselffarm.com/bio.html

[Nski32]

[QUOTE=MissIndependence;2514292]
Here’s the horse I showed in the Jr. Hunters & regular Workings in the mid 70’s…he was a quarter horse (gasp!!!) - but was a great jumper and moved very well. I foxhunted on him - pretty much did it all…he was awesome!!

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2481537490100450736XDEEQL

It was great to show in the big fields…and gallop down those lines![/QUOTE]

love that horse!

[Grannie_s_Grey]

Don’t have pics scanned into pc (still learning this dad burned contraption), but used to ride outside courses in the 60’s. These pics sure brought back memories.

[showjump]

Does anyone remember the outside course at Detroit? The showgrounds at the Loudon show in Va had a great outside course too. I remember many years ago showing at Loudon in the mid 70’s and there being a huge black snake in the brush box… I probably should not have been looking down, but I did see it, I think it was there for probably 20 or 30 trips that day.

[Cammie]

![](oing back even further

Here’s a picture of my Mom- I’m guessing late 1950’s in Virginia Beach…

[IMG]http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u71/Cammiespike/MOMHUN1_edited.jpg)

[HunterJumperGin]

I love these pictures! I will sit and study them for hours. I’m desperately trying to master the auto release.

[xegeba]

so…

putting aside the auto vs. crest release debacle… what is the better hunter? The flat-backed warrior(horse) of the 70’s or the tucked -upped prettyboy(horse) of the 2000’s?

[sanctuary]

These pics are just beautiful! I think I grew up in the wrong era!

[GWF]

I’ll have to dig out some of my mother’s pictures from the 60’s and 70’s. I think she only has two or three that have survived. Unfortunately she left almost all of her pictures with her ex.

[ShowMeTheGlory]

The flat-backed warrior(horse) of the 70’s or the tucked -upped prettyboy(horse) of the 2000’s?[/QUOTE]

Def. the 70’s-today’s hunters would not make it out in the hunt field. Too prissy.:lol:

[GreystoneKC]

Really neat old photos! But…

I really have to say it: Am I the only one here who thinks that while the riders look amazing on these older photos, the horses are jumping terrible!? Some of them are hanging knees, many are stiff and flat. Uhg. I hate it! The only horses that I think look very good are some of the ones moving into the later years with the crest releases… Give me our big soft, round, tight, square hunters any day! I would really love to see more of our nice hunters today over outside courses like that, but I hope they don’t have to give up fantastic form to do it.

We need the riders’ form from the 70’s, the horses’ jump form from now, and the outside courses of yesteryear. Then we might start getting it all right.

[bosox]

where?

are the hanging knees? I must have missed that photo. I think the horses look great…and could go out and handle anything. When I shopped for horses for my kids…I had to steer away from the “show pony” because–those ponies are use to rings…and the same ol’ fence.

I think I could have grabbed anyone of these horses–and gone foxhunting, eventing, or out for a long trail hack–and had the same results…Sure, Steady, Safe!

But don’t mind me—I have ALWAYS been a old soul in a young body! I miss my very first hunter trainer…Ida Darrah from NY. Those where lessons. :yes:

[GreystoneKC]

I’m not looking to critique anyone’s really cool old photos. Just think that any time that knees go so low that the line of the forearm through the knees is not parrallel (sp?) to the ground and points towards the ground, the knees are considered “hanging”. Many pics show this, one worse than others. One appears to be from a tight distance and the scopey little horse really jumped up to not touch the thing. Most of the horses have VERY tight front ends, but not necessarily up and even. And I’m in no way saying these weren’t great horses, just making a point that I like the “now” style of jumping better myself.

I guess I am in the small minority in thinking that “hunters” should not have to be “fox hunters” and/or “eventers” at the same time. I love me a good outside course like everyone else, and I am really enjoying my new dabbling in eventing (with my medium hunter pony, mind you), but I really don’t see why our best hunters should have to jump 4 ft stone walls out of 2 foot long grass. LOL

[europa]

Zipping flame suit and breaking out the bon bons…have one on me everyone please.

I have to vent…I am so tired of some of the looks in the hunter ring today…the ultra long spots and the totally stiff positions of the riders. Say what you want about these pictures but they represent the best of natural riding. I remember competing in Atlanta at the Classic against great riders like Jay Land and Neil and Molly Ashe. I just have a hard time with the whole “I have to ride in a GPA and tailored sportsmen’s” crowd.

Say what you want about these old photos but I am entranced by them…please let me enjoy them for what they are.

I think we can take the best from both worlds.

Stepping down from the soap box. Don’t ask my age…or else! HA HA

[ShowMeTheGlory]

I guess I am in the small minority in thinking that “hunters” should not have to be “fox hunters” and/or “eventers” at the same time. I love me a good outside course like everyone else, and I am really enjoying my new dabbling in eventing (with my medium hunter pony, mind you), but I really don’t see why our best hunters should have to jump 4 ft stone walls out of 2 foot long grass. LOL

I understand what you are saying, but isn’t that what a “hunter” is supposed to do.

[bosox]

Greystone…

I think you make your difference of opinion very tactfully…no ruffled feathers here.

Europa–you made me laugh. Truth be told…I have NEVER had a bon bon…don’t know if I would like them…but I loved your intro to the post.

[GreystoneKC]

[QUOTE=ShowMeTheGlory;2515230]
I understand what you are saying, but isn’t that what a “hunter” is supposed to do.;)[/QUOTE]

LOL! Yeah, that’s the funky balance right? It’s what they evolved from, but is it what they should be? And sadly, it’s obvious that the “hunters” can’t please everyone!

[monstrpony]

[QUOTE=GreystoneKC;2515256]
It’s what they evolved from, but is it what they should be? [/QUOTE]

Waitaminit–isn’t this the same argument used to justify modern western pleasure horses? You REALLY want hunters to go down that path???

[HunterBreedingJunkie]

Thanks to all of you for sharing those beautiful pictures. I think all of the horses look relaxed and are jumping very well to each of their ability level. Every horse seems to be giving a little more because of the proper riding they were given by each competent person on their back. I’m not from that era but I would give any of you my first born to develop some of the skills that riding out in the fields AND the ring seem to have blessed you with.

[ThinkTwice]

OK, I’ll play

With pictures, that is, not the controversy.

Well, maybe a little.

Here are some “hanging knees” from the 70s…

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2750076020058571225vJwVmt?vhost=pets

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2256146260058571225AkLxKk?vhost=pets