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80 Horses Seized, Immediate Assistance Needed

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#121

Just as a clarification…I still have the entire email interview saved. While I am willing to do whatever is necessary to find/save my mare, it was not my intention to make the SPCA look bad. I know they are doing the best they can. I would like to have my concerns addressed in as timely a manner as possible however. When I relayed what my boyfriend had been told regarding our mare being injured while being loaded on the trailer, etc, I followed that up immediately by saying that we now know that the farm owner cannot be believed given all of the misinformation we have received from her in the past. The reporter also asked me why I thought the farm owners had treated the horses this way and I told her I had no idea…the only information I had at this point was from others who thought that perhaps she was ill in some way. All I wanted was confirmation that our mare was not hurt being loaded, was, in fact, taken to the SPCA (she could have been dispersed in some way already), and was not euthanized due to her condition.

I remain frustrated. I did not have email access this weekend, so I’m just catching up. I did give everyone and their brother my cell # though and sent her picture everywhere I could think of, numerous times. I have still not received any information.

I just wanted to clear that up ----- I know people are going to get the wrong impression since the article did not include my clarifying statements. I appreciate all the SPCA is doing - if our mare is still alive, it’s only because of their efforts.

#122

i hope you get your mare back safe to you very soon, what a nightmare :frowning:

#123

Marli and everyone interested, here it is (at https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1207507689303195972&postID=6684350464634685360):

Carol said… Trupia and her mother should BOTH burn in hell. This is NOT the first time they have done this. I called the SPCA on them myself when they had a farm in Stewartstown, PA approximately 18 years ago. From what I understand, that was not their first time either. They did the same thing in MD. Not long after the SPCA came down on them in PA, they hightailed it to NY. The horses in PA were walking skeletons, covered in rain rot. There was a mare and foal locked in a stall standing in 3 feet of manure! I still have pictures that I took when I went with a friend to pick up his mare that they had half starved to death. He had loaned his mare to Gerry to breed to her stallion. His mistake…not going to check on his mare over the course of the year. Gerry called him when the mare foaled because she hemorrhaged and the foal died. We went to get his mare out of there and her mother tried to say that the mare was so emaciated because she hemorrhaged. I said, “I think not! She hemorrhaged because of the condition she was already in!” What idiots!

September 7, 2008 2:09 PM

#124

I am in NY, How can I help

Marli… This is Debbie (( Parker )), can you send me more information… any updates what is needed… Blanket sizes?? etc… are there foals?? I am only getting a little info…

I did send you a PM on another matter…

THANKS!!

#125

Parker, Marli’s not in charge of this, just giving out info. From page 3 of this thread:

Would like to thank you for your persistance as phone calls were made to the SPCA involved and they have now granted permission to post their website information which includes ways to donate [there are two Finger Lakes SPCA’s and this is the correct one]

The SPCA that did this seizure is the Finger Lakes SPCA. Here is their website:

http://www.fingerlakesspca.org/

Direct link to donate to the Finger Lakes SPCA (secure site for donating)

http://partners.guidestar.org/contro…ein=16-0772023

You may want to notate your donation ‘horse seizure’.

#126

Animal Abuse Arrest

http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a79aa6f8-2400-480a-9ec2-5793b8e1c9e5

#127

Some volunteers stopped by my place today and I loaded them up with blankets (the horses are so down in weight that the cool nights are too much for them), coolers, fly masks, and can’t remember what other odds and ends I have around here.

It is my understanding that there are no babies, but some very small yearlings (duh - they need food to grow), and possibly foals on the way as the horses were turned out in a herd like situation with stallion(s) in the mix.

I just shudder at the conditions these animals were in.

#128

PS - they are making progress with trying to ID the horses, but they just can’t release the info or the foster care names as of yet.

#129

Thanks for the update Splash Of Color. I was wondering last night what was going on in this case.

#130

Why only 5 counts laid? DO the starved ones that werent euthanized not count???

#131

Any updates on the mare that one of the posters was looking for? She had a mare there
and was having problems finding out if it had survived and where it was.

#132

It is my understanding that there are no babies, but some very small yearlings

I know at least a couple of those “foals” are now about ten months old so I could see where they might think they had “small yearlings” on their hands…

and possibly foals on the way as the horses were turned out in a herd like situation with stallion(s) in the mix.

This wouldn’t surprise me in the very least, although why would you breed more if you couldn’t feed the ones you already had??? Why wouldn’t you have taken the money you spent for mares, foals and stallions in 2008 and bought hay with it instead??? :confused: :uhoh:

#133

I just wanted to update everyone. We were notified late last week that our mare had been euthanized. Her body score was a 1 out of a possible 9. There were multiple things wrong with her after being starved and neglected for months. She went down and was unable to get up. The vet did the only compassionate thing under the circumstances.

We will be cooperating with the investigation and filing a civil suit ourselves. She did not deserve to suffer and die this way. It’s my belief that she was starved from the day she was picked up from our farm. She was such a kind mare – I’m sure she could not understand why her life changed so dramatically. It hurts my heart to picture her confusion and probably hope that we would come along at any time and feed her. It’s too much really – here we were thinking she was happy and well cared for and all the while the exact opposite was true. If only we could turn back time.

Thanks to everyone who has cared, tried to help and thought of us. It was all very appreciated.

#134

:cry: :confused: :mad: :mad: :mad: :cry:

#135

I am very sorry to hear that Soccermom.

#136

soccermom711, so, so sorry to hear this.

#137

Because you are a hoarder with a compulsive need to bring in more horses regardless of the consequences.

Soccermom, I am so, so sad to hear about what happened to your girl. That must just break your heart :frowning: I bet one of the reasons it took so long for you to get info was that they want to be double sure before they gave you that terrible news.

With how public she was, how much she was “out there,” how many people were giving her horses… how did it get so bad? I am really asking, I just don’t understand. Was she operating on an outdated reputation?

#138

Ambrey,

I’ve been asking myself the same questions. I’ve gone back through all of the posts, emails and responses I’ve had from her and about her over the last two years. If you read any of her responses on the pedigree forum, I think you’d agree she comes across as a very knowlegeable, reasonable horse person. She sent me private messages on different topics over the years that were very well written. She was also very knowledgeable about trainers at different tracks – including ones in our area. She seemed to have a very nice rapport and past relationship with many board members. Others did recommend her based on past experiences. It seems that those with bad experiences or recent knowledge kept their mouth shut. Gerry was not our only choice and/or offer for our mare. We chose her because, ironically, we felt she’d be well cared for there. Gerry was also one of the closest to us geographically – we were also uncomfortable sending her too far away.

Obviously, I could absolutely kick myself now. I will never again take anyone’s word on anything when it comes to sending my horse to them. I will see the place myself and check references thoroughly. I realize most people will not care for my horse like I would, but I was not expecting it to go so incredibly, horribly wrong.

#139

My deepest condolences Soccermom. :frowning: Best of luck with your civil suit, hope your attorney knocks one out of the park on this issue. :sadsmile:

There is no way of knowing if this person is/was a hoarder. I wouldn’t throw that label around easily online. I’d hate to see an attorney get hold of those opinions and run with it to get the person out of any responsibility. For all we know she could just have been taking in money and spending it, fully realizing she was starving horses and not have the actual mental diagnosis of hoarder.

#140

Oh Soccermom. :frowning: I’m so, so sorry to hear your mare has crossed. I’ve been following this thread just hoping and praying that she was ok. While it’s small comfort, at least her passing was out of kindness and concern from a vet, and she knew gentle hands, pats and tears. :cry:

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