just a tip for cleaning without scratching, I use a squeegie and really soak the sponge/fluffy side and wash well with it then use the scraper side!
Thanks Bogey2. We probably need a new squeegie !
Has anyone tried the mirrors from Jumps West? http://www.jumpswest.com/barn_mirrors.php I would love to hear your experiences - I have concerns with the ones I have. TIA!
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just a tip for cleaning without scratching, I use a squeegie and really soak the sponge/fluffy side and wash well with it then use the scraper side![/QUOTE]
On a 3 way conversation with glassless and the manufacturer, they said to only clean with compressed air. I am pretty certain any direct contact with the surface will scratch it, even a sponge.
My only other thought was a garden sprayer with soapy water and then a rinse with one of the non spotting car wash products.
Here are notes on recommendations I got after researching mirrors to address someone’s poor installation:
6’x10’mirrors should be installed:
• 4’ off the ground at the bottom (from floor of arena)
• 4’ beyond the rail minimum
• Sit in a J channel on a 2"x4" or similar ledge at the bottom
• Have H channels between the glass panels where they meet
•Use marine grade plywood or protect with waterproof roof and backing. Roof can prevent/minimize etching from acid rain. Make sure it’s well away from where a rider’s head will be when they pass along rail.
• Have blobs of mirror matrix that holds the mirrors to the backing to stabilize but always stays a bit flexible/plyable and doesn’t become rigid like glue (as that leads to breakage during cycles of expansion from the weather). (Not all installers do this but it was strongly recommended to me.)
• Clips to hold the mirrors at the top and the weight of the mirrors in the J channels keeps them stable. Ideally these clips are adjustable so you can tweak the angle and get it just right.
• Consider crossbeams bracing the mirrors off the back, perpendicular to the posts. Probably not needed if you have heavy posts set 6’ down and in concrete.
• Plant boxwoods or something similar between the mirrors and the arena to visually fill the opening space under the mirrors.
•Fogging can be minimized by application of RainX or a similar product.
Things I’ve seen go wrong and should be prevented:
• Invest in Grade A mirrors and get the mirror company and/or manufacturing rep out to look at the instillation if there is distortion and warping and have them replaced.
• If the arena is sloped, the angle of the mirrors will need to be increased. Even in a flat arena , you need a mounted rider giving feedback as mirrors are installed in order to get angle right. Headless riders and legless horses are not a good thing. Adjusting is way easier if you have adjustable clips. Otherwise you are stuck digging out posts and moving the entire installation. Not fun.
• Make sure the arena is installed square. If the mirrors are installed parallel to the short side and the arena is not a proper rectangle, part of the arena won’t be visible in the mirrors, and the rail that is visible will be running towards mirrors at a diagonal and lateral work will feel like you are on acid.
Oh, and if you want mirrors across the short side, extend them all the way to the rail so you can see lateral work. Don’t end them 2’ inside the rail. ??