Accepting being priced out of the hobby

They are $2,000. One of my boarders used them. Depending on where you are in CT, Rubin Livestock Services may be available. I am just over the CT border in NY and they come here. They are based in Middletown NY, and they charge $450.

I had this grand plan of burying my Old Man when the time came. Now, I’m too scared to bury him at the place we boarded at for so long because I strongly believe it will end up owned by developers and I can’t bear the thought of someone digging him up by accident.

So now what. Do I cremate him, or just take a piece of tail and let the haulers remove his body?

Something I should decide sooner rather than later. My SO says to cremate, but jesus that’s expensive and a lot of ashes.

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Fab, thanks, I’ll share that info with my vet! It’s my understanding that cremation price is based on weight, rather than a flat fee for all–is that not the case?

I had my heart horse cremated 10 years ago.

I’m at the point now where enough time has passed that I’m asking why I keep a huge trunk of ashes in my living room.

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This is what I fear for my Old Man horse. I can tell right now that my SO is going to pressure/guilt me into doing it though. Maybe I’ll spread his ashes somewhere special so I don’t have them in the house.

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I’ve only had to euthanize one horse (definitely a heart horse), who I leased. The owner kept most of the ashes and I kept a small box - the same size that they do for big dogs. I think when I have to do it again I’ll still cremate (realistically my only option) and keep just a small portion and spread the rest.

It’s A LOT of ashes.

I’ve debated spreading them, but that’s a lot to put on one place and I don’t know if I want to spread them multiple places because drawing the process out unsettles me for some reason.

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I was fortunate that at my old barn when my horse died they could bury it there. Unusual for horse farms in CT! With new guy at current stable, the options are more limited. Might be able to bury, might not - kind of depends upon how many go before.

Cremation is expensive. Especially since I am not sentimental about the remains. No other professional ā€œservicesā€ or composters that I am aware of. So for many it comes down to ā€œknowing a guy with a farm and a backhoeā€. or paying $$$.

My experience was with a sick dog, but by the time I got to the euth, I had tapped every available monetary resource, so I had to put the fees for the euthanasia on three different credit cards. I don’t know that I would sniff at someone trying to come up with the disposal fees for their horse without understanding that person’s story.

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Honestly, I am currently re-thinking my role in the horse world, in regards to cost. I bought a young horse two years ago with the intent to have something I could show in the 2’6" EQ ring. I didn’t have huge goals, just wanted something I could enjoy at the lower levels.

I’m averaging roughly $2000 a month in costs (board, shoes, vet bills, tack, lessons, training rides, etc.). I also have herniated two discs in my neck and back in the last two years – not riding related, but it has impacted my view on my physical capabilities.

I have had the typical training hiccups one has with the young horse, exacerbated by an acute Lyme infection, saddle fit issues and resulting ulcers.

I’m nowhere near my goals and wondering if it is really all worth it? Especially the rising costs. In my area, board starts at $1150 and most decent programs have lesson and training requirements. So board is really well north of $1600/mo. I struggle with how much this is fair to my husband. We are two income, no children. But our largest expense is my horse, by far.

It would be so much more reasonable to sell my young horse, and either part lease something, or buy a trail horse and keep it at a backyard barn and give up all dreams of competing.

That is what I am currently struggling with.

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Right?!?

Rarely is the decision, ā€œlet me euthanize now while it’s financially convenient.ā€ Usually there is a lot of difficulty, often financial, leading up to the decision.

Also, I know when faced with veterinary emergencies, I tend to make stupid financial decisions. It’s easy to save and say you will only spend $X on treatment, but in the moment, it’s hard to stick to that. Especially when your animal is able to be saved if you spend just a little more (which always ends up being a lot more).

I’m so sorry about your dog. :heart:

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Man, no kidding. This one is especially hard for me when it’s not ā€œokay, you have to spend $20k now or euthā€ but when they stretch on and you’re 3 months in, 10 grand in the hole, with an animal that’s doing … pretty okay but still has challenges and serious costs. They’ve gotten ā€œbetterā€ but aren’t yet ā€œwellā€ and knowing when to stop and call it is just SO HARD.

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I really had high aspirations of showing rated/recognized at some point - and then I totaled it up and decided I don’t care that much. I would love to have better competition and better judges and better venues… but right now, it’s not in the cards.

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You can lease and compete. Find a good show barn!

Not that I’m telling you to sell your horse, but I wish I had shopped around at different programs before buying the baby TB and getting stuck in a program that wasn’t working for us before I eventually sold her. I could have been leasing a packer and saving myself some heartache and back aches—not money, as good leases cost $$ but the stress and commitment of horse ownership are big things and frankly if you don’t have your own farm, it’s just a lot.

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I am considering this path now. Leasing out of a trainer’s barn. The problem I’m running into is it actually IS cheaper to own, short term - I don’t need a fancy show barn or required training and can/prefer to DIY the local shows (I’d rather board close to home and meet a trainer at the shows for social hour and coaching…).

I totaled it up, $1400+/mo for board and training, plus lease fee (if you can find one under $10k for what I need it’s a miracle, ā€˜mid fives to borrow’ is more common), plus farrier, tack, required hauling/set up/day care/coaching/splits. If I want to do the local C or A circuit. I have my own truck and trailer but wouldn’t be ā€œallowedā€ to use it. Half leases are almost non-existent in my circle.

OR I can buy, and board for $800, haul in for lessons and do my own thing at shows, etc etc.

ETA of course owning comes with commitment. I’m well aware (side-eyeing my $$$$ 11yo retiree)

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Yep, I hear you. Having owned several of my own over the past decade it’s never so simple. I have boarded in a show barn, at a backyard barn, and now am at a barn that’s kind of in between.

I love, love, love having say in my horse’s care, learning everything I can to be a better horsewoman, but it’s like a full time job—with the added stress of having to find good ā€œoffice spaceā€ lol. If my horse were at home it would be lots of work but I wouldn’t worry about the long haul as much. I think it’s just the horse welfare part that gets me. Like, you buy a horse and board with a trainer thinking you’re going places, horse breaks or isn’t a good fit for that program and you have to find a new place or sell. It’s so hard and gut wrenching.

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So, as a reality check.

When I was a teen I did self board in a backyard down the street. Us 5 teen girls basically ran the place ordered bedding by the ton and dealt with our own farrier and vet calls.

Dry stall was I think $50 a month (might have been $25 to start?), hay was $3 a bale, and we pitched in for a ton of sawdust from the mill every few months. My horse cost $350 off the dude string and my saddle was about $100 new.

And I was considered very lucky and even spoiled and rich in that nice enough suburban neighborhood because many many perfectly respectable middle class parents in that time and place could not afford that monthly cost for kids to have a horse.

At that point a one bedroom apartment was about $150 a month and full board at the fancy barn was $100 a month. We considered that astronomical.

1970s inflation did a number on many people’s salaries too.

A horse has always been a luxury except on ranches and farms.

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Yep, horses are in general a luxury.

A luxury a lot of us used to be able to afford, relatively easily in fact, and now find ourselves unable to keep up with skyrocketing prices.

What was doable 3, 5, 10 years ago just isn’t the same anymore. And it’s certainly disheartening!

Though I will say it’s morbidly encouraging that it isn’t only me feeling the pinch.

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The divide between rich and poor is squeezing out the middle. The mid 20th century had the least income divide in the history of North America. That started to fall apart in the 1980s. Big fortunes in finance and then tech drove up top earners and the middle incomes stagnated.

Where I live, a middle income earner can’t buy a detached house, and is stretched to buy a condo or even rent an apartment. Pretty much priced out of the downtown. Food and gas prices have skyrocketed. Depending where you live you will see the current economic issues realigning your life in different ways. It’s not just horses

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It was a flat fee for my boarder.