Adopted shelter dog - 5 months later owner wants her back

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I think this is an excuse, and a poor one at that.

Legally the new owner has the right to do whatever she wants, but don’t use the, “it’s better for the dog” excuse because it’s not necessarily.[/QUOTE]

I think it is better for the dog to not have yet another upheaval, when she is in a good home with other dogs to play with and isn’t left outdoors unsupervised. It is also better for shelter dogs if adopters aren’t subjected to a guilt trip like this after they’ve spent 5 months grooming, feeding, exercising, training, and becoming attached to their new dog. I don’t think it is a poor excuse to leave a dog in a situation where the dog is doing well and has been for months. I also don’t think it is good for the shelter population as a whole if people feel like they’ll be I an awkward situation if they adopt a dog. It sounds to me like this dog is in a good home. Why mess with that?

OP, do you have the name of the original owners? Have you googled it to see if there are any news reports about an entire family ending up in the hospital, etc?

[QUOTE=Casey09;7579904]
I think it is better for the dog to not have yet another upheaval, when she is in a good home with other dogs to play with and isn’t left outdoors unsupervised. It is also better for shelter dogs if adopters aren’t subjected to a guilt trip like this after they’ve spent 5 months grooming, feeding, exercising, training, and becoming attached to their new dog. I don’t think it is a poor excuse to leave a dog in a situation where the dog is doing well and has been for months. I also don’t think it is good for the shelter population as a whole if people feel like they’ll be I an awkward situation if they adopt a dog. It sounds to me like this dog is in a good home. Why mess with that?[/QUOTE]

Because the dog may have been in an equally good home prior to circumstances outside of the former owner’s control?

Again, the OP is under no obligation to give the dog back or even listen to the former owner’s sob story. The old owner may be abusive, neglectful or a scammer. There’s not enough information to discern the truth. So enough with the “you’re clearly a better person than the old owners so you deserve to keep the dog” BS.

Five months is not that long. When I went to college I wouldn’t see my family dog for months at a time. She certainly recognized me and I sure as hell was still “her person.”

The “it’s unfair to change the dog’s life again” argument is a strawman. Dogs are resilient and almost infinitely adaptable. What’s really going on here is the OP wants to keep the dog. Fine. She has every right to do that. That doesn’t automatically make it the best decision for the dog and it doesn’t make her actions heroic.

The five month time span makes me think that the OP did the right thing, contact should end now, and that should be the end of it. As I recall, after the stray time period ends, most shelters say that there is no return to the first owners.

If anyone had wanted my shelter dogs back I would have told them to buzz off, because none of them came from good previous homes, and the last boy was a dump job who was full of worms-vet said he’d had the parasites for a long time too. The original owners’ story sounds a lot too far fetched for reality to me also.

[QUOTE=JanM;7579974]
The original owners’ story sounds a lot too far fetched for reality to me also.[/QUOTE]

Except no one really knows the original owner’s story…just bits and pieces relayed by the AC officer.

The shelter should not have contacted you. Period. I would be having a conversation with whoever it is that sets the policies and procedures for the shelter. This should have not become your headache and maybe you could prevent this headache for future adopters.

Personally, I would not have given them my phone number/e-mail but that ship has sailed :). The last time I said that someone could contact me directly about an issue they tried to bully me into getting their way.

If the owner’s story is true, that is truly sad and I am sorry for them. But, that does not mean that they can get their dog back if you want to keep him. Don’t feel bad if you want to keep the dog; sorry you are having to deal with this.

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The shelter should not have contacted you. Period. I would be having a conversation with whoever it is that sets the policies and procedures for the shelter. [/QUOTE]

I was also surprised that AC contacted the adoptive owner…that almost makes me think that the original owner’s story was compelling enough for someone to make an exception to the rule.

I have a good friend who works at a local shelter. NEVER in a million years would they EVER contact an adoptive owner asking for them to disclose their personal information to the former pets owners regardless of the situation.

I had a situation once where I adopted a cat that just came up legally for adoption at the shelter. As I was signing the final papers, the owners showed up. In that case, I did give the cat back to the original owners but would not entertain the thought if I had owned the cat for 5 months.

I would certainly call shelter management and let them know they caught you a bit off guard with their request and after more thought you do not feel comfortable at all disclosing your personal information to the former dog’s owners.

i think so many of us are suspicious b/c of the timeline. My dogs are my family. I KNOW who is caring for them, what they ate each day, etc… 5 months is almost half a year with no knowledge of where the dog is? if my dog went missing, i’d be calling shelters first, rescues, etc… Sorry but something does not add up. it’s just fishy. i say OP keep the dog, send a nice photo and wish them well.

Whew - lots of posts. I appreciate hearing everyone’s opinion - on both sides.

The former owner sent a reply to my email giving a bit more to the story. Sounds like she has 3 children, she was in a car accident and in the hospital. She had someone she felt she could trust, keep the dog until “she was back on her feet” Once she got out of the hospital she contacted the woman and she says she wouldn’t tell her where she was at, the boyfriend made her get rid of her and then told her she found her a good home.

She says for a month she felt she lost her for good, but her son started crying for the dog. She says she contacted rescues and shelters and that no one helped her. Said she was in contact with the shelter about a month ago, but they wouldn’t help her at all. Said she will refund my money or the shelter could refund me. She has vet papers that “show her real age” but doesn’t mention what that was. She asked that we return her, etc.

I did google her name, nothing really comes up. I did find her facebook page - know it’s her because the kids’ pictures match, but there are no pics of the dog. Which doesn’t really mean too much - she may have non-public pics.

I know shelters (especially Gov’t ones) can be understaffed and therefore not the most helpful people, but I have a hard time believing she got no help. My experience with them (our local ones) has always been quite good and they seem well staffed - people who actually take their job and cust service seriously.

AC told us the dog was picked up wandering the streets and the location. It is very close to where the former owner lives. So it was within the county she lives in - the dog didn’t travel far away. In fact I go jogging with the dog on the same street all the time. Who knows, maybe someday we’ll cross paths.

I don’t by any means believe the dog was in a terrible or abusive home. But, our dogs are family members and short of an alien abduction of our entire family - there’s no way the dog would have been handed off to someone else. The lady who took over sounds like a total flake who lied about the situation. As I mentioned, the dog looked to have a pretty recent litter and although I don’t have the complete timeline of events, I sort of wonder if she got pregnant and had the litter when the other lady was supposed to be taking care of her.

The dog was in generally good health. Lots of dandruff, and a scraped paw, but not wormy or fleas. Decent weight. She knew sit, shake, etc.

If it had been only a month since we had her I would consider things differently. But with us she has a secure, definite forever home. With the other people I feel it’s a “likely but not sure” forever home. People like to say that their dogs have a forever home but some life event comes along and poof, that goes out the window. I told her I sympathize with her family, but that she is a permanent part of our family now.

I am curious about some things (including what she mentioned about the real age of the dog) but did not ask questions as I don’t really want to continue correspondence with her. I hope she has closure that she has a great home and people (and doggie sisters!) that love her.

My gut feeling has been that this might escalate and I hope that’s not true. I’m trying to be respectful of her feelings but also be firm about things.

RE: the AC contacting me - I think I will call the shelter and speak with them to let them know what transpired. When they first called it seems like “Sure, we can talk - seems harmless” but it could definitely spiral into something crazy. Her comment about the shelter refunding me is totally bogus. They would never do that. Money has nothing to do with it either!

I do not get why she would even think the shelter would have reason to refund you. The shelter did nothing wrong that would warrant a refund.

Crossing fingers that this does not escalate on you.

The fact that previous owner mentions a refund of money is a little thump on the head. I have a feeling once she realizes dog is neutered she wont’ be contacting you again.

Im also getting a head thump that this situation will bring you a boat load of crazy. Good luck with that.

well she does not have very good friends. Jeez. didn’t even TELL her the dog was gone? the BF had no right to just kick it out and put it out into the street. they should have told the owner. but it still sounds like fishy BS to me. good luck to you, OP

She says for a month she felt she lost her for good, but her son started crying for the dog. She says she contacted rescues and shelters and that no one helped her. Said she was in contact with the shelter about a month ago, but they wouldn’t help her at all. Said she will refund my money or the shelter could refund me. She has vet papers that “show her real age” but doesn’t mention what that was. She asked that we return her, etc.

I did google her name, nothing really comes up. I did find her facebook page - know it’s her because the kids’ pictures match, but there are no pics of the dog.

If she was seriously looking for this dog, there should be lots of cached “lost dog” posters online & elsewhere …

This is exactly why a shelter and AC will NOT divulge the whereabouts of a dog to anyone claiming to be the previous owner. Can you imagine what it would do to adoptions if everyone who adopts an animal has to deal with the potential baggage. IF they followed stray hold procedures correctly, and IF they wanted to let on to the previous owners that they had seen the dog, all they should have said was “The dog is fine. She has been adopted to a wonderful family.” If the woman wants to make an issue of this, she should take it up with the legal system. Not you. And I very much doubt that they would side with her if procedures were followed. Hold periods are there to give owners time, but not force shelters to keep animals indefinitely.

Her real age? Like that’s a mystery?

There is a saying in horses: Always put the best interest of the horse first and the rest will take care of itself.

I think it is equally apropos here.

IMO the OP should do what is in the best interest of the dog. Posters are making assumptions based on a vague, and possibly misinterpreted, story.

The OP may very well be the best owner for the dog and has many clues/reasons which support this conclusion. But, until more information is obtained, she can’t be sure.

My suggestion is that she ask the pound to obtain more information – even giving the people there a list of questions she needs to have answered.

If the new chronology makes sense and the people seem to be legit, as a final “test” she could meet the old owners at a park and let the dog make the decision. Of course, since the OP holds all the cards, she can hold the old owners to a very high standard, which they may not be able to meet. But, I think she needs to give them a chance.

That’s a very sad story, but I can understand not wanting to return the dog to her previous family. It doesn’t really matter if the old owner is a good/better home than the OP, the OP currently owns and wants to keep the dog. I completely adore my dog - she is more than family to me - and it would break my heart to give her back.

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Her real age? Like that’s a mystery?[/QUOTE]

Yes, her wording in the email made it sound like if I knew her real age I wouldn’t want her as much, or something crazy.

still sounds fishy to me. and I am truly sorry she was in an accident and lost her dog, but what’s done is done.
they can adopt a new dog from the shelter and let the shelter absorb the cost if that part’s even true.