Ahonoora and Habitat/Sir Gaylord

How about these horses in sport horse breeding?

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:

His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZLQMMQSK.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg

His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg

He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZLQMMQSK.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg
His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg
His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg
He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZLQMMQSK.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg
His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg
His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg
He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg
His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg
His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg
He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZLQMMQSK.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg
His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg
His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg
He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.

Ahonoora has not to date been very productive as a sport horse line. I seem to recall that his first descendant appeared in eventing within the past couple of years. Which is odd, because he is just about the last Herod sire line left today in the West and is from the Dollar branch, which was VERY productive for sport horses in the past.

Sir Gaylord, on the other hand, is one of the very best lines to find. He’s got so many chasing and jumping descendants that they are just about uncountable.

Habitat was and is a very good chasing line. If crossed with Mill Reef, it’s a known nick with awesome jumping prowess. Habitat has 21 different get with FEI level sport horses descendants, about divided equally between stallions and mares. He is Lenamore’s second damsire, just to mention one event horse.

Thank you very much Vineyridge, that sounds good.

I just found this: http://www.mercurybloodstock.com/pdf/Insatiable_1a.pdf

The foal is just lovely. He has a very classic Herod head and neck. I’d be standing in line to buy him if he were for sale at a reasonable price for me.

After looking at the photos again, I’d want to make sure that he has a good length and angle to his pasterns, front and back, and that his elbow is reasonably high set. The sire’s elbow looks good to me. But then I’m pastern fixated when it comes to conformation. :slight_smile:

I find it hard to see with a yearling is the elbow is in the right place because yearlings tend to be rather downhill for a while. His pasterns are okay but I find it hard to Judge if he is/will be level enough.

On the right the colt again and on the left an other yearling by the same sire but out of a crossbred mare:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Q6E6867M.jpg

Super old fashioned type colt. good luck with him. PatO

He is not mine, he is for sale and I am going to have a look at him to see if I like him.
I think these are nice pictures of him:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-PV6ILJ84.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-GA7WJAGU.jpg

Maybe I’m blinded by red, but he looks very much like Ahonoora to me. See the photo on the Sport Horse Show Breed website.

[QUOTE=vineyridge;7068531]
The foal is just lovely. He has a very classic Herod head and neck. [/QUOTE]

What’s a classic Herod head and neck? Would that be a dishy face (Arab-looking) and sturdy arched neck (hard to describe, but not the typical slender TB neck)? I have a mare who has quite a bit of Dollar/Herod (6 via her 3 crosses to Tourbillon, 12 via her crosses to Teddy) and that’s what she looks like. She’s also short and compact, but not “petite” and a lovely mover.

Thanks!

Smallish, very well defined head, often dishy, but very little fat. Not necessarily short. Often almost looks like skin over a skull with lots of edges. If heads were legs, they would be described as dry. Necks are often high set and relatively arched. Take a look at Definite Article here:http://sporthorse-data.com/d?z=MPGMdt&d=Definite+Article&x=16&y=15

Or Klairon here:
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?showpic=474502&nm=2&time=1312704894

Or Tourbillon here:
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?showpic=368852

Or My Babu here:
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?showpic=584710&nm=2&time=1312703754

Or Luthier here:
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?showpic=511220&nm=3&time=1312703741

Thanks Viney. Yup, that’s pretty much what my mare’s head and neck look like (sorry I don’t have pics), with the exception of Tourbillon. She also resembles Ambiorix (at least his pic on pedigreequery) in head/neck and overall conformation, but more feminine of course. We just found out that she’s in foal to Turkowar, who has 2 crosses to Tourbillon via Crozier. Trying to concentrate those Herod bloodlines…

I have just returned from my vacation to the UK and I have purchased the colt while I was there!

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-HUXVP3BQ.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7MYJ8H8H.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-IRHESHKB.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-O7KDZYQD.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-I8SQN8Z3.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-3HC6YLP4.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TW6638CT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-UFLUH4QV.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-EIS43YFA.jpg
Dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-BRBLM8O7.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-46VFKZTX.jpg