Double post.
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Not saying that trainers schooling horses or draw reins are good or bad, but this looks no different (and less crowded) than most other finals schooling sessions. [/QUOTE]
It looked WAY less crowded! Where was everybody??
This blog post from Harrisburg includes a video that looks much more typical for schooling at Indoors. The ring looked almost deserted by comparison in Kentucky.
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It looked WAY less crowded! Where was everybody??
This blog post from Harrisburg includes a video that looks much more typical for schooling at Indoors. The ring looked almost deserted by comparison in Kentucky.
http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/harrisburg-wrap[/QUOTE]
I don’t know, maybe just waiting til later? I definitely took my life into my hands schooling at Devon and some of the indoor shows.
uh yeahhhh it’s not about NOT being able to get a horse on the bit. it’s about giving a last minute tune up that draw reins can achieve much more quickly. when i was doing the equitation, every so often i would hack my horse in draw reins for probably 10 minutes, and he was like a different horse after. it’s not that i was incapable of getting him on the bit - i did it every time i rode him. but the draw reins were just a nice little reminder that was achieved WAY easier than schooling him into the ground.
i’m guessing none of these riders RELY on draw reins. it is just a training tool.
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All I got from your post is that you’re an a$$hole and that you are letting us know that you will continue to be an a$$hole hopefully before 7 AM.
Thanks for the heads up![/QUOTE]
You know what? As long as I’m widely known to be an anti-drugging, anti-draw reins, anti-trainer-prep-at-Finals asshole, I’m fine with that designation, so thank you. I’m also a very up-front person and prefer it when people out themselves as musts to avoid. So that works too.
As to whether my method would work at Cap Challenge or WIHS I don’t know, never been there, probably not, but it would work fine here or at the Royal, for two. There is plenty of downtime when the rings are open, and it’s not like the NHS at MSG, which was ridiculously tightly scheduled not to mention heavily policed - security here is virtually nonexistent, which is another thing I love about it. Schooling literally ran ALL night long at MSG in half-hour intervals, and ISTR they restricted the horses by number. Imagine having 1/2 hour to school from 3:30 - 4:00 a.m. and having to show the next day. It happened. To lots and LOTS of kids. MSG was NO picnic and I don’t miss those days a bit. But we didn’t have our trainers ride ‘em for the schooling sessions either. You wanted to know what your horse was going to do, not find it out the hard way with the judges’ eyes on you!
[QUOTE=War Admiral;7245027]
You know what? As long as I’m widely known to be an anti-drugging, anti-draw reins, anti-trainer-prep-at-Finals asshole, I’m fine with that designation, so thank you. I’m also a very up-front person and prefer it when people out themselves as musts to avoid. So that works too.[/QUOTE]
Some of the junior hunters that had issues on day 2 won everything the day before, so your paranoid ideas about drug testers showing up does’t really hold water. Anything that would show up in a test on day 1 would still show up on day 2. And if they are using something for which there is no test, they will use it whether the drug testers are on site or not.
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Allow me to shamelessly tout my Maclay spreadsheet (already shamelessly touted in another thread)…
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9oRFv6nYHYWWGlOY1JrZFlOUXc/edit?usp=sharing[/QUOTE]
Your spreadsheet is worthy of being “shamelessly touted”.
Thank you, and well done!
As an outsider looking in, I was very surprised at the number of hanging penises I saw when it came time for jogging. Especially with the little ponies at Harrisburg. Not to say I didn’t see it with the Jr. riders mounts also. I’m not saying that that’s a definite indicator but in my opinion it’s a pretty good one. I’m sure they weren’t all affectionate “hangings”. I guess if that’s what needs to be done, wish it was a mare so it would go un-noticed.
[QUOTE=War Admiral;7245027]
You know what? As long as I’m widely known to be an anti-drugging, anti-draw reins, anti-trainer-prep-at-Finals asshole, I’m fine with that designation, so thank you. I’m also a very up-front person and prefer it when people out themselves as musts to avoid. So that works too.
As to whether my method would work at Cap Challenge or WIHS I don’t know, never been there, probably not, but it would work fine here or at the Royal, for two. There is plenty of downtime when the rings are open, and it’s not like the NHS at MSG, which was ridiculously tightly scheduled not to mention heavily policed - security here is virtually nonexistent, which is another thing I love about it. Schooling literally ran ALL night long at MSG in half-hour intervals, and ISTR they restricted the horses by number. Imagine having 1/2 hour to school from 3:30 - 4:00 a.m. and having to show the next day. It happened. To lots and LOTS of kids. MSG was NO picnic and I don’t miss those days a bit. But we didn’t have our trainers ride ‘em for the schooling sessions either. You wanted to know what your horse was going to do, not find it out the hard way with the judges’ eyes on you![/QUOTE]
The indoor show I was talking about was The Royal. Definitely no open ring time. You have your designated schooling block for no more than about 45 minutes and that’s it. Everyone must go the same direction and you’re strongly encouraged to travel at the same gait. Standing in the corner with a bag of treats while people are trying to get in their precious ring time would be a gong show.
Why thank you for the suggestion many horses stayed home because they have to be drugged and this show would be more heavily tested. How kind of you to dismiss the notion they’d showed enough all year, didn’t have a Medal rider and would gain nothing but another week on the road and another big bill.
The Medal feed is excellent and they have excellent commentary on every rider from a judge and last years winner. That’s new for this and a wonderful idea, really help explain the minor bobbles and mistakes that result in what looked like a good round not be scored as such.
Might want to look in on it instead of riding a train wreck.
