Am I getting too wild?

[2tempe]

OP: I would not necessarily wear brown boots to show UNLESS I had brown tack. So IM humble opinion, the brown would be great.

[Libby2563]

@mmeqcenter

I personally don’t think the rules are really that hard to follow.

Through Fourth level, no boot color specifications.
Above Fourth level, boots must be black or may match the coat; coat must be dark conservative color or fall under HSV color scale.

That’s not what the rules say though. The rule talking about the HSV color scale starts with “at all test levels.”

[Libby2563]

@phoenixrises

No I think after reading it in it’s entirety that the boots may match the jacket meaning the boots have to follow the same rules as jackets. And if you go read the canadian rules they make that even more clear. So brown boots with a navy coat is no issue.

BUT I will say there is enough doubt in the way the USEF rules are written that I"d be more worried about a TD or judge throwing me out. Canadian rules make it clear I’m fine.

I don’t think so. The rule says “boots may be the same color as the coat,” not “boots may follow the same color rules as the coat” or something like that.

Definitely a lot of doubt here!!!

[mmeqcenter]

@Libby2563

That’s not what the rules say though. The rule talking about the HSV color scale starts with “at all test levels.”

Yes, I said that in my comment. I don’t really understand what your comment is trying to refute in mine.

[phoenixrises]

@Libby2563

I don’t think so. The rule says “boots may be the same color as the coat,” not “boots may follow the same color rules as the coat” or something like that.

Definitely a lot of doubt here!!!

I went ahead and wrote to USEF for clarification. I don’t want to get dismissed and I won’t pay $350 for a brown coat.

[SendenHorse]

@Libby2563

I don’t think so. The rule says “boots may be the same color as the coat,” not “boots may follow the same color rules as the coat” or something like that.

Definitely a lot of doubt here!!!

right, LOOK AT THE PICTURES in the PDF. they are an exact match to the coats.

I’m sticking with black and white! much easier.

[Draftmare]

So I remeasured my calf, and it is exactly 17 inches. The MH boots say the regular calf is 15 3/8"-16 1/8". I was going to go ahead and try it, but I suspect that 16 1/8 is how much they stretch with the elastic. I imagine the leather would relax some with use…but probably not that much. :no:

[js]

Not the best boots on the market but if used just for shows should hold up. I have a pair (not the ones below), no issues, leather is supple and nice, reviews for the boot are good on this web site.

https://www.adamshorsesupplies.com/t…ld-boot-202878

[Libby2563]

@mmeqcenter

Yes, I said that in my comment. I don’t really understand what your comment is trying to refute in mine.

Oh, maybe I misunderstood due to your semi-colon placement. It looked like you were saying that the HSV color scale rules apply above Fourth Level when in reality the rule that mentions that starts with “at all test levels.”

OP, I hope you can find some boots that are both pretty and comfortable! I found those in my Cavallo Insignis boots, but unfortunately they turned out to be not durable at all despite the pretty high price point (for me).

[Draftmare]

@2tempe

OP: I would not necessarily wear brown boots to show UNLESS I had brown tack. So IM humble opinion, the brown would be great.

Got the brown tack covered!

I also think I am back to looking at the De Niros for my boot fitting needs. When I put in all my dimensions I was quoted $350 + whatever shipping will be for the basic brown De Niros.

[js]

http://inside.fei.org/system/files/A…ss_colours.pdf

this addresses colors, they must fall in a certain shade range. After looking at it, it’s easier just to go black.

[Libby2563]

@js

http://inside.fei.org/system/files/A…ss_colours.pdf

this addresses colors, they must fall in a certain shade range. After looking at it, it’s easier just to go black.

Yeah, right? I read that too and thought, “WTF!?” You may wear any hue (“color”) and any saturation (“vibrancy”) but don’t you dare wear anything with a “value” above 32%! How do they possibly enforce this?

[Draftmare]

@Libby2563

Yeah, right? I read that too and thought, “WTF!?” You may wear any hue (“color”) and any saturation (“vibrancy”) but don’t you dare wear anything with a “value” above 32%! How do they possibly enforce this?

I saw all the formulas for calculating the colors and my eyes went a bit crossed. I am glad that I only want navy things, and aren’t thinking about anything super out there as far as color. I use to love Kerrits seafoam colored jacket before they discontinued it. I don’t know where I would even begin on calculating the legality of that one! http://www.hand-gallop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CompetitorsKoat-JasperWhite-40310-3.jpg

[SendenHorse]

@Draftmare

I saw all the formulas for calculating the colors and my eyes went a bit crossed. I am glad that I only want navy things, and aren’t thinking about anything super out there as far as color. I use to love Kerrits seafoam colored jacket before they discontinued it. I don’t know where I would even begin on calculating the legality of that one! http://www.hand-gallop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CompetitorsKoat-JasperWhite-40310-3.jpg

what annoys me is there is a difference in screen colors (both between screens) and IRL colors.

I assume you need to compare the %s with the actual fabrics, correct? (hold the fabric to the screen as you calculate % )

[Draftmare]

Another question that just came to mind…my gloves. I’m wearing a navy coat…should I go with navy gloves? Black gloves? White gloves? At a clinic a couple of years ago a judge told me that white gloves show that the rider is more confident vs black gloves where they might be trying to hide something. Not sure if I believe that or not.

Still trying to sort out my boots. I pulled my Ariats out last night, and they are looking a bit sadder than I remember.

[Draftmare]

@phoenixrises

I went ahead and wrote to USEF for clarification. I don’t want to get dismissed and I won’t pay $350 for a brown coat.

It’s too bad brown coats are so expensive, I would totally rock out a brown dressage coat, brown helmet, and brown boots.

[Goforward]

I wore both a navy coat and a grey coat with brown boots at USDF shows all last winter in 3rd and 4th level. I also wore the navy with brown boots combo at the regional championships. I saw lots of brown boots with various colors of coats. The all looked good, none of the TDs cared about the color

[mmeqcenter]

@FatCatFarm

On the subject of brown, I bought this coat as I have dilute horses, palomino pinto and buckskin. I thought it would compliment them nicely. I love the cut of it. I bought it to show jump in, but I’ve decided to concentrate on just dressage. There’s also a matching vest I thought would be classy to have when coats are waived. Think they’d dismiss me?

It is too light on the HSV color scale, and the old pattern is likely not considered “conventional.” At least on my computer screen, it matches a 75% lightness, and coats are required to be between 0-32% lightness.

[mmeqcenter]

@Draftmare

Another question that just came to mind…my gloves. I’m wearing a navy coat…should I go with navy gloves? Black gloves? White gloves? At a clinic a couple of years ago a judge told me that white gloves show that the rider is more confident vs black gloves where they might be trying to hide something. Not sure if I believe that or not.

Still trying to sort out my boots. I pulled my Ariats out last night, and they are looking a bit sadder than I remember.

You’re really not going to be able to tell the difference from the distance of the judge between navy and black. I agree with the judge’s statement about white gloves. Or I guess, maybe everyone with dark gloves isn’t actively trying to hide anything, but white are far less forgiving.

[Heinz_57]

@Draftmare

Another question that just came to mind…my gloves. I’m wearing a navy coat…should I go with navy gloves? Black gloves? White gloves? At a clinic a couple of years ago a judge told me that white gloves show that the rider is more confident vs black gloves where they might be trying to hide something. Not sure if I believe that or not.

Still trying to sort out my boots. I pulled my Ariats out last night, and they are looking a bit sadder than I remember.

I think navy, although black would be fine too. I’ve never worn white gloves and I have fine hands, black just seemed more economical and logical as far as keeping clean - I’ve never tried to hide anything. :lol: Any salt-worthy judge should be able to spot bad hands from across the arena regardless of glove color, anyway.