Amateur friendly stallion suggestions?

My Connie/QH cross was fun and brave to ride but would blow up at every little leaf that crossed his path. That being said, I’ve seen WH Topgun in person and he’s totally awesome.

I think you should look at Kathy’s GRP stallion, Belafonte d’Avalon: http://www.avalon-equine.com/belafonte-davalon.html

NICE, NICE pony. He’s 14.3hh so it’s very likely you’d get 15.1-16hh which would be perfect for you.

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Thanks JB! Both of our pony stallions are extremely quiet…and absolutely no spook. Neither requires more than a 15 or 20 minute warm-up before going into the ring. Daventry’s Power Play is particularly quiet and easy to get to the ring. And of course, with both being purebred Welsh Ponies, they have excellent, big feet! We include the first collection in the stud fee. Goldhills Brandysnap has a 100% First Cycle Conception Rate. Power Play has gotten all mares in foal in 2014 and 2015 except for one mare who was bred late in the year last year.

I second Freestyle if you want a spectacular mover… Gatsby is also high on the list for ammy friendly BUT may not produce as good a mover.

Rubignon passes on an amazing temperament, is GP dressage and also got 9’s in jumping at his stallion testing. I just sold a 2 year old by Rubignon who has the kindest and calmest temperament of any horse I’ve ever met. He also had great feet and bone and was very smart.

My priority with a baby is one that is brave, trainable/rideable and going to be FUN! Stud fee must also be affordable as this is an older mare and somewhat of a gamble fertility wise. Of course I would love an amazing mover, but not at the expense of ammie friendly. I have nooooo desire to go above training level eventing (maybe school prelim with the right horse) and dressage is just fun for me-no high goals. So I don’t “need” a high octane individual. I also don’t have time right now (but hopefully will have more as kids get older) to ride every day. So I can’t have one that needs 6 days a week to be rideable. I have one of those now and he’s a pasture puff because I cannot give him the consistency he needs to not be tooooo playful.

Daventry’s stallions are gorgeous. My heart horse is welsh/tb and i am very fond of pony crosses. I don’t know how I would pick which one to use!

Daventry-- I love the look of both your ponies. How does shipping to the US work? And what’s a good way to decide between your boys?

I would suggest a Fine Romance but I don’t know if his owner is selling frozen on him or not. He’s retired and I’ve never figured out if she has a supply stocked away somewhere.

You could go for an ISH. Braveheart is known for throwing very ammie friendly offspring and he comes in at 16h http://www.deanfieldfarm.com/ Another one up your way in MI is Whispering Point Farm who has a couple of stallions that could be nice. http://www.whisperingpointefarm.com/stallions-of-ballymore-stud.html There are some nice larger stallions like Bridon Beale Street of KEC Double Diamond

If frozen is an option Lissaro is notorious for producing supereasy temperaments. We’ve had 3 by now and I’ve met several at the auctions over here and they are nothing but fun! He seems to not stamp his get in size (meaning the mare’s size genetics will come through). And he has a pair of nice big feet to match his bone. Good luck :slight_smile:

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Daventry-- I love the look of both your ponies. How does shipping to the US work? And what’s a good way to decide between your boys?[/QUOTE]

Shipping semen from the U.S. to Canada can sometimes be tricky with the CEM restrictions coming into Canada. But going from Canada to the US…easy peasy. It ships overnight via Fed-Ex and is usually there by noon the next day. I’ll PM you directly about our boys, as they are both very different and a lot will depend on what type of foal you want, what your mare is like, etc. :wink:

We are breeding our TB mares to our homebred Connemara Pony Stallion Blue Moon. I owned and stood his sire for the majority of his breeding career and his dam has produced five foals for me–its a family I know well. Ive ridden both sire and dam and started 3 of his siblings. His oldest half brother is my current competition pony is schooling 3rd Level and his older half sister is competing in the Pony Grand Prix’s over in France. He should finish around 15HH and is not grey (tested black :slight_smile:

Blues sire was a USEF Leading sire in 4 Disciplines as well as siring the 2x ACPS/USEF Horse of the Year in Eventing. His dam is an ACPS/WE Premium Mare who out jumped 14 full size Warmbloods to take the high score freejumpin at her Performance Test in 2010. Both sire and dam have won prizes on the line and under saddle. The entire family is very rideable, versatile and competitive. Blue will be available to a limited Book next season.

2yo Blue Moon (Purebred Connemara Pony Stallion)

not all connemara lines run hot but there are some that most definitely run hotter than others. Some are more challenging to get going but once going really settle down to work.

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If you are interested in the half-Welsh I will second Daventry’s stallions. Not all TBs cross well with Welsh Cobs, though when you get a good cross they are stellar. I hope to breed and keep one for myself some day (all mine have sold/sell). I am very particular in crossing a Welsh Cob on the TBs and find it’s very important to breed to a certain type as well as specific bloodlines. Having said that she has the range of stallions that would allow you, with her experience and knowledge of what they produce, choose the best match for your mare.

I love Belafonte d’Avalon and he sure would tick all your boxes. Very nice one! My friend and I have had good luck with Coromino babies – wonderful temperments, kind, sensible, good feet, huge stride and elegant. But he is big and out of your mare will probably go 16-16.2H, but I am 4’10" and I started my Coromino baby and he was an easy ride because out of a TB mare he was not bulky and loved his movement. He is doing strictly dressage now in VA. The week after my friend’s Coromino filly was started she could hack her around bareback with a halter. She just had a colt by him that was pre-sold.
PennyG

I’d stuggest Navarone. Proven producer of event horses. But more important he makes the most easiest, bravest and amateur friendly horses I know. Great crossed with TBs. Stellar semen. More than one shipment is rare. Not the cheapest stud fee, but he is worth it and first collection is included. Puts on a nice size foot too. Wont add a lot of height, most are in his size 16-2 range.

Kathy

I’ve been out of breeding for years now, but I bred my 15.2 hand TB mare to a 12.2 welsh stud. Resulting foal finished at 15-15.1, stocky, and with such an awesome head on his shoulders, it was hard to sell him. He was started with the goal of eventing and was the most brave thing I ever sat on. Sold him to an an adult eventer in NH who was short and looking for similiar features as you. If I ever breed again, for myself, it would be a TB/Welsh again. I did cross a lot of TB mares with Warmbloods from Iron Spring and the resulting foals were amazing. One is now in California with an amature and my first foal is actually in Middleburg showing sidesaddle with a fellow COTHer, Devon Zebrovious. I’d definitely look towards the welsh cross, they do tend to be much more “user” friendly, lol :slight_smile:

If you are event minded would you consider an Irish bred horse - they are classics with TB’s, bold, ammie natured. To Be Sure (ISH) has thrown 100% horses with ideal temperaments, but they have been different sizes, according to the mares. He is not so big himself. I had one, and have known all this offspring. Others might thow small.

Golden State is an awesome dressage pony, but not a jumper if you are looking for that. Petite Marc Aurel is an amazing jumper, and very substantial if you need that. I have had several welsh crosses, and although amateur friendly, they have been very unathletic, a bit dull to ride, and totally lacking a work ethic. I have seen several Connemara crosses with TB’s and warmbloods, but I found them to be very flat movers. If you are going for that, I thought the temperaments were good and they were good jumpers. I have never met a New Forest without an amateur friendly temperament, but they can be too smart for their own good. Really really brave though.

Another vote for Gatsby - both for temperament AND fertility.

I went to the Royal Agricultural Winter Fair last fall and watched the Get of Sire class, and it was quite the eye-opener. The two Gatsby babies shown were out of two different mares, and they were the ONLY pair that stood perfectly still, happily sniffing their handlers once in a while and looking around calmly, ears forward, super well-behaved.

There were a number of other babies being complete jerks, displaying very dangerous behaviour, especially one pair in particular that led me to think “wow, I will never ever breed to THAT stallion!!” but the two Gatsby babies (I believe both were yearlings) impressed the heck out of me. :yes:

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I went to the Royal Agricultural Winter Fair last fall and watched the Get of Sire class, and it was quite the eye-opener. The two Gatsby babies shown were out of two different mares, and they were the ONLY pair that stood perfectly still, happily sniffing their handlers once in a while and looking around calmly, ears forward, super well-behaved.

There were a number of other babies being complete jerks, displaying very dangerous behaviour, especially one pair in particular that led me to think “wow, I will never ever breed to THAT stallion!!” but the two Gatsby babies (I believe both were yearlings) impressed the heck out of me. :yes:[/QUOTE]

Not taking away from Gatsby at all…just defending the other babies and sires at the Royal. :wink: Just remember that every foal has a mama…who may have made a large contribution to temperament. :wink: Also, bear in mind that some of the youngstock at RAWF may have been out showing all year and getting used to the show ring environment more than others…as well as possibly having better professional ground handling. I just hate seeing a stallion disregarded based on a couple of offspring without first knowing all of the facts. :wink: