And that’s ^^ who I (page 2 started - Roc USA) regrettably did not breed my young mare to back in 2010 when I was thinking about it! I spoke with Natalie a lot that yr.
They share a common sport TB bloodline on both of their bottom dam lines! I was so invested in that idea. But I was covered up with life responsibilities at the time and I had my own two starting u/s and those expenses (and a few ‘other’ horses too …:rolleyes: ).
If you are looking for a serious hunter, definitely look to a WB stallion like Gatsby or Amazing. If you are looking for local level hunter and an eventer, might consider an Irish Draught. I know multiple ISH hunters out of mares with hunter movement. The Irish are known for throwing amateur friendly temperaments and are superb eventers. I love Moorpark Image and Bridon Beale Street.
Ironman is seriously ami friendly and his babies as many say are born broke. While he was a jumper he easily could have been a hunter because he was so easy going. He was USEF leading HB sire at one point. He crosses outstanding with TB mares, that is what I personally breed him to. Below are some pictures of TB cross offspring.
Nancy beat me to it! YES, YES! IRONMAN. I have two Ironman fillies now out of two TB mares who are 1/2 sisters. Ironrose (aka Clue), a grey filly, is now 2 years old. She is gorgeous and yes, BORN BROKE. Very easy going temperment, happy to please and stunning. She is 16.1 1/2 as a 2 year old, shown here At Upperville: http://www.herselffarm.com/images/conf1crop.jpg and as a yearling at Warrenton: http://www.herselffarm.com/images/Best_Clue_resized_web.jpg
Ironreign, dark bay nearly black, is just 5 1/2 months old, she was Reserve Champion Foal in Hunter Breeding at Warrenton, at 4 months of age. She also won the foal class at Maryland Horse and Pony. http://www.herselffarm.com/images/Reign_RayFrancis%20-%20Copy.jpg
She is self confident, easy to deal with and so exceptional that everyone who sees her wants to know who her daddy is! I am repeating this breeding in 2014, because it is exceptional. This one is not only born broke, but has a wonderful brain, she learns so quickly.
Ironman improves the mares qualities, and adds personalities that anyone will fall in love with. I love, love, love this stallion!
Thank you so much for the suggestions. I’m having a great time looking at all these gorgeous horses.
I don’t know how I’ll ever pick.
Are there any lines or horses that you suggest staying away from when looking for a really ammie friendly horse? Or any that I should stay away from because of the improvement I’d like to make on my mare’s hind end?
Thanks again for all the replies! They’ve been very helpful to me.
I’ve been thinking about this since we talked the other day and the ones that come to mind are Amazing and Great Pleasure. Both have thrown some very nice hunters out of TB mares. I could see Great Pleasure crossing quite nicely with her.
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If you are looking for a serious hunter, definitely look to a WB stallion like Gatsby or Amazing. If you are looking for local level hunter and an eventer, might consider an Irish Draught. I know multiple ISH hunters out of mares with hunter movement. The Irish are known for throwing amateur friendly temperaments and are superb eventers. I love Moorpark Image and Bridon Beale Street.[/QUOTE]
Funny you suggest going Irish. My mare and the OPs mare are very closely related and my girl had a Liam filly this year that I love! He’s not quite right to cross with the OPs girl but he sure thrown some nice, ammy friendly youngsters!
No Great Pleasure frozen left. Navarone (Jus de Pomme x Armstrong) throws awesome hunters and the best temperament you can find. Also with KWPN, if you get the JC papers, you don’t have to have the mare inspected and you get register A babies. It’s a nice system. Navarone goes awesome with TB mares too. Throws a super head and neck and strong hind end. They are also winning international Jumping and Eventing. He competed to 1.4m and did Grand Prix Dressage. Very multitalented and a favorite for everyone to ride at home.
Kathy
ren Severn’s Legaczy is producing lovely conformation and good temperament. Nice hindquarters, too.
I really like Rock USA, Just the Best, Amazing, Cabardino, Sir Caletto, Legaczy, Paparazzo, Popeye K and a number of other stallions whose get are known to me and seem to have great temperament, strong hindquarters, good conformation, and jumping talent. I’ve used Pablo, Landkoenig, Sir Wanabi (that filly is still a baby but lovely conformation, temperament, and apparent “jump”), and Rubignon, to produce show hunters with very good minds, nice scope/technique, now winning in the hunter ring and past successful in the hunter breeding. We just sold an As di Villagana colt out of a lovely Han. approved TB, and this colt is well under saddle and good auto changes and form over the fences - and super good looks and amateur disposition! There is a nice group of us As di Villagana fans who know many of his sons and daughters, that all have wonderful dispositions and amazing scope/technique over the jumps. Semen is difficult to get. So many good stallions to choose from but I’m planning a return breeding to Sir Wanabi because this 2013 filly has me smitten! There is a great selection of very good stallions here in the U.S. to select from right now. It’s exciting!
Diane Halpin/Laurel Leaf Hanoverians: Facebook
I have worked with a few Prince Optimus offspring and I am very impressed - he seems to stamp his foals and seems to throw great temperaments and typey, talented foals. I’m hoping to breed my mare to him in the spring.
I would l think most breeders would not think that the cost of registering a TB
(with the Jockey Club) would not be worth it. Like $2,000.00 at this stage, if I recall correctly. I got mine approved for breeding via PHR and Canadian Sport Horse, so there are ways to get a registration for the foal if you feel it is important…
Not sure if it is just my foals, maybe the dam, but my Apiro foals ( full siblings) are dead quiet as foals and the colt has been to shows and slept at them since he was a weanling, super easy!
I also have heard great things about Cunningham, Gatsby, Amazing and Roc USA!
And there’s a way for a TB mare who is ‘eligible’ for registration to be a dam of a JC registerable foal. I’d contact the RPSI registry & see what they say after looking into to the JCs protocol.
We have a mare breed to Gatsby this year too. One of the common denominators I read from breeders who have used him, is how easy his babies are. They are also doing well in a several different disciplines and he himself has just started his Hunter career. Defiantly one too consider as well!
A few to look into are Dacaprio and Fabuleux, Apiro and Validation and the stallions at High Point Hanoverians Rosenthal etc.
Bliss MF and Balt"Amour
A few more stallions to consider would be the ones at Marabet Farm. We bred one of our TB mares to Bliss MF but unfortunately she slipped. It was to late in the season to retry so we will get an early start this coming year. I have heard nothing but great things about his foals and can’t wait to finally have one of my own. Maggie also stands the stallion Balt’Amour who I have seen crossed a number of times with TB mares successfully. In fact his foals are finishing in the top five in the country with both BWP and Oldenburg NA. I have a friend with a mare bred to him as well. At our OLD/NA inspection the top colt was by Balt’Amour. Both worthy of consideration for your mare.
Also check out the breeding contract that Maggie is offering. I have never seen such a generous contract by a stallion owner. How many offer a LFG for 6 months and the contract is good for 8 years?
http://marabetfarm.us/
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If you are looking for a serious hunter, definitely look to a WB stallion like Gatsby or Amazing. If you are looking for local level hunter and an eventer, might consider an Irish Draught. I know multiple ISH hunters out of mares with hunter movement. The Irish are known for throwing amateur friendly temperaments and are superb eventers. I love Moorpark Image and Bridon Beale Street.[/QUOTE]
The offspring of an RID or RIDSH would be eligible for inspection depending on the % of RID
I’m wondering why all of these stallions have been thrown out there with no request for the pedigree information of the mare. She is 50% of the equation.
OP, I looked closely at your mare and because of her standing position and the shadow, I cannot see her front leg/hoof conformation. If you could stand her up in the more traditional open stance it would be easier to make a critical evaluation of her conformation.
At first glance, I see a fairly long back and old style type with a steep shoulder. The hind angles I cannot really evaluate because she is standing under in front and out behind. Just looking at this photo, I would want a bit more refinement, a better shoulder angle, and a more expressive look. I would look for these qualities along with a high score in rideability. She looks to have really solid legs and feet but it is hard to tell with the shadow. Do the pasterns look a bit upright? Maybe, maybe not…could be the pose.
What is her breeding?
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I’m wondering why all of these stallions have been thrown out there with no request for the pedigree information of the mare. She is 50% of the equation.
OP, I looked closely at your mare and because of her standing position and the shadow, I cannot see her front leg/hoof conformation. If you could stand her up in the more traditional open stance it would be easier to make a critical evaluation of her conformation.
At first glance, I see a fairly long back and old style type with a steep shoulder. The hind angles I cannot really evaluate because she is standing under in front and out behind. Just looking at this photo, I would want a bit more refinement, a better shoulder angle, and a more expressive look. I would look for these qualities along with a high score in rideability. She looks to have really solid legs and feet but it is hard to tell with the shadow. Do the pasterns look a bit upright? Maybe, maybe not…could be the pose.
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OP states she is an unregistered TB mare. So the likelihood that she shares any bloodlines with these warmblood stallions is practically nil… even the one’s with TB blood like ROC and Gatsby. Therefore I would imagine that is why no one asked.
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OP states she is an unregistered TB mare. So the likelihood that she shares any bloodlines with these warmblood stallions is practically nil… even the one’s with TB blood like ROC and Gatsby. Therefore I would imagine that is why no one asked.[/QUOTE]
I was not asking for fear of line breeding or inbreeding, but purely for getting a stallion that would improve on the mare. Some lines match better than others, no? I’m sure all of these stallions are nice but without more information or even a better conformation picture, I would hesitate to suggest a particular stallion. JMHO. 
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