Suggesting supplements is interesting. The AC I use has never done that. She usually makes very specific statements about areas of pain (last horse was tight in his diaphragm, tight behind his ears but not at his poll, painful right stifle), but never recommends treatment. She also described the horse was ridden in multiple different bits including one with many rings on the side and that his head was tied down (we don’t know for sure what his previous three sale barns rode him in but he is the type of horse that if you wanted to quick fix him you would put a 3 ring or draw reins on him). She also has it posted on her emails, website, and SM that she doesn’t replace veterinary care or training, so I appreciate she’s being careful to not get anywhere near “diagnosing” something.
I, too, give very little info. She’s been spot on with things that I knew were issues and uncovered things I didn’t know about. For instance, for my sleep deprived horse (going on 2 months without laying down) it was post hospital stay and she laid down the night after we explained to her that everything was ok. Could it have been a coincidence? Sure, but there have been too many instances of her nailing things that they’re all a coincidence.
It’s pricey, but the majority of times that I’m using her it’s because I’m really stumped on an issue that is degrading the horse’s QOL (as in not laying down to sleep), or I’m about to drop $$$ on a full lameness exam and I’d love an idea of where to point the vet instead of calling and saying “this horse is feeling/acting crappy and idk why.” Basically, scenarios where I need help figuring something out and that’s going to cost me more than $200. Only a couple of times have I used her to talk to a horse just to check in - although I wish I could more! Those always turn out to be useful conversations.
Welp, I did - and sure enough, I “incurred the wrath” of an animal communicator!
I didn’t describe the issue but did say that because it was one thing that Ms Mare had been doing (fairly recently) that was mystifying and completely out of character, that I had been hoping for some insights.
FTR, I looked up “leaky gut” (had heard of it, but wanted to do more of a deep dive), and not only does my mare have ZERO symptoms, she has ZERO risk factors! So…she would “tell” the AC that she “has leaky gut” - and that she needs psyllium and mag chloride - and vitamin C supplementation? Or maybe those are “go to” recommendations from this AC…?
Anyway, in my e-mail to her I described her lifestyle and her health in general terms - saying that she’s very healthy gastrically, and really not “tight in her body”: I do a LOT of stretching, rocking, mobilizations, carrot stretches, bodywork, bending and weight shifting both from the ground and under saddle, Masterson Method, Surefoot Pads, etc. - and about a year ago I discovered the Posture Prep - her skin glides over her muscles. Great little tool!
All I said in the e-mail was that I had been hoping for more information and feedback from my horse, and more detail(s) in terms of how she “felt” about things; this was what I had gotten from other ACs I’ve used. I promise that my e-mail was tactful, simply explaining my puzzlement over her reading and hoping that there might be more clarification.
(As a “service provider” - I am a dog trainer along with having horse students - I am of the opinion that if someone is dissatisfied with their experience, I should “make it right” by either addressing the issue further and more thoroughly, or offering a refund. I’ve been doing this for decades - and I stand behind my training. I didn’t know what to expect from her response, but it was most definitely not that!)
ETA: What my horse “told” her was very odd and didn’t make any sense; I wondered whether she even had the right horse…My mare would have a LOT to “say”, methinks!
Here is her response:
Oh my goodness, I have never had a negative response such as this with my work before, the wind literally knocked out of my sails so to speak😢
I can only write down what is communicated from every individual animal, and my records are contemporaneously maintained.
Its not a judgement of the care you provide, or specialists involved - its from the horse directly.
I have top of their class riders, worldwide - who voucher for my work, and yes there are always surprises to where they need support.
I always standby the animal and whats recieved. 12yrs now…and its the changes that follow in the horse or animal, that advertises my work for me.
Sorry that you are completely dissatisfied on this occassion,
If I hadn’t used “E” and already spent that money, I would love to try her!
Does anyone have other suggestions that are a little less pricey?? I’m not unwilling to try again, but I don’t have the money to spend on this when it could go to SO many other horse-related expenses. SIGH
I think this expectation is a huge stretch for an animal communicator. I can’t imagine thinking of it as anything but entertainment. Do you ask for your entrance fee back if you go to a concert and don’t like the music?
If you “try again,” I would really approach it as something for fun, and the money spent on it as money you’d be happy to spend out of your entertainment budget - not a serious diagnostic tool.
Oh I agree - but according to others who have used her she provides a LOT more feedback than I got!
I have never expected “more” from ACs I’ve used - I think some of them were just “generalizing”, but they did get SOME things right on!
This was SO off-base that like I said - I thought that maybe she had the wrong horse?? Hence my puzzlement - and my thoughts that she could possibly try again to get “more” info.
Entertainment value indeed - and with the second and third ACs I used, this was the objective - I wasn’t having any specific problems and was just curious as to what my horses might “say” - the readings were accurate enough to make sense to me
In the first case, there was a specific behavior that I was puzzled by - the AC NAILED IT!, and I was able to make changes based on it! Pretty spooky. This was why I was willing to try again, because hope springs eternal.
I had a great experience with an animal communicator. I don’t think I would pay for one that just did a single reading that took 7-10 business days to process lol. Mine was a 30 min video call, where there was a lot of back and forth where I could ask follow up questions on the spot. I’ve also done a 15 min phone call with her but same thing I think being able to have a live discourse is important.
Yes, agree - a 3 minute (if that) FB voice message was not helpful (not to mention that none of it made a lick of sense!)
A fellow boarder recommended an AC who she’s used for her two horses with good results - she’s local. I told her about my experience and she responded with a sympathetic eye roll. Oy!
Anyway, this AC is “only” $85 - she requests a picture and does her readings over the phone, so I’m thinking of trying again.
(Got my mare’s eyes checked yesterday by a very experienced equine ophthalmologist and they were totally fine…)
I used to board with a lady who alleged she was an animal communicator, probably 20 years ago now. She was an absolute nut who insisted to all that her horse was previously a dog. She also was half terrified of him, which was ironic because it was one of the nicest behaved horses in the barn… I believe this is a thing, but after boarding at the same barn with her for years, it was a loooooong time before I took any of this seriously. Reading the responses on this thread has been quite interesting for me.
Question for all: is there a reason NOT to identify which communicator you’re referring to? Using just an initial seems strange if there’s no reason to avoid naming them.
I was at a point with one horse that I was quite desperate. The AC I used in the past was no longer with us…had tried another with poor results. One of the posters here suggested Nancy and her fees were reasonable enough (I consider AC use entertainment…and if I get more than that, I am ahead!).
First call with her…wow. The things she mentioned with behaviors would not have been something you could cold read. Basically right away said this horse doesn’t know where his hind feet are…then asked about Lyme and EPM. Ironically I had the vet pull blood that morning (despite the vet telling me I was wasting money as they don’t see either in the area he was boarded). Guess what…horse came back with super high titers to both…and his behavioral issues improved dramatically with treatment.
Second call with her…I didn’t get much useful…nothing was really incorrect, but I didn’t get the same wow of info as I did first time.
Third time I called was again very helpful.
I set up an appointment time, texted a photo, and the thing I most liked about working with her. She didn’t cold read by asking questions first. She just starts talking and giving information from the start of the call, unprompted.
Thank you for the link.
Her rates are very reasonable!
I need a consult for my housecats & after that, I’d like to have her work with my horses.
I’ll post back here after I’ve worked with Nancy.
I’ve worked with Nancy on two occasions. Both gave me things to investigate and look into (the latest is yet to be seen if it’s legit, vet is coming in a couple weeks), and she is consummately reasonable and so very nice and friendly.
Lydia Hiby was more expensive and full of smoke. Said my horse needed a liver cleanse and some flower essences. Said nothing bad had happened to her, when I know that’s not true. I wouldn’t use her again, ever.
Also just worked with Nancy and she was great for my two. Maybe more useful info on my dog, but he has more going on, so to speak. She actually called out three specific points on the horse for my chiropractor and sure enough, when he was done later that week (pre-scheduled) all 3 were out.
