Annoying self identified dressage person at work

Horse people love to talk about their horses. I know I do. And I’m also guilty of talking more about mine than wanting to listen about someone else’s horse and discipline.
I was introduced to someone at work because we both rode. Always nice to meet a horse person but she told me she does dressage and assumed that meant I wanted to listen to a monologue about her horses, boarding barn, etc. Although I’m showing Arabian hunter and western rated shows right now, I did take several years of dressage lessons and showed schooling and a couple rated shows. So I know some names and big barns although I have no affiliation but I have had the opportunity to interact with dressage people who let their talent do the talking for them.

I may be wrong but I’ve seen (heard) more assumption of superiority from dressage wanna-bes than I ever heard in other disciplines. As I plan to return my hunter to dressage lessons and shows, I dread dealing with these kind of people. I love to ride and show but have definitely enjoyed the camaraderie of my Arabian show barn more than the dressage barns where I took lessons previously.

I guess I’ll mind my own business and try to avoid big talkers but it does take some of the joy out of returning to dressage.

So…you dislike this person because she (a) told you she rides dressage; (b) told you about her horses; and © told you about the barn where she boards?

The nerve of this woman! How dare she engage in a discussion about horses with another horse person?!?!?!

Seriously, just don’t talk to her if you don’t want to hear about her horses. I work with a couple of horse people. We each ride different disciplines, but I really enjoy it when I have an opportunity to hear about their horses. Geez. You seem pretty unpleasant and like you are looking to be offended.

[QUOTE=JBD;7697391]
Horse people love to talk about their horses. I know I do. And I’m also guilty of talking more about mine than wanting to listen about someone else’s horse and discipline.
I was introduced to someone at work because we both rode. Always nice to meet a horse person but she told me she does dressage and assumed that meant I wanted to listen to a monologue about her horses, boarding barn, etc. Although I’m showing Arabian hunter and western rated shows right now, I did take several years of dressage lessons and showed schooling and a couple rated shows. So I know some names and big barns although I have no affiliation but I have had the opportunity to interact with dressage people who let their talent do the talking for them.

I may be wrong but I’ve seen (heard) more assumption of superiority from dressage wanna-bes than I ever heard in other disciplines. As I plan to return my hunter to dressage lessons and shows, I dread dealing with these kind of people. I love to ride and show but have definitely enjoyed the camaraderie of my Arabian show barn more than the dressage barns where I took lessons previously.

I guess I’ll mind my own business and try to avoid big talkers but it does take some of the joy out of returning to dressage.[/QUOTE]

I think every discipline has it’s “All Hat, No Cattle” peeps.

IMHO, dressage tends to attract overly-analytic types who like thinking about every bit of a ride. This can manifest in a rather annoying fashion in some people. Not that they aren’t trying, they just seem to like talking about riding rather than getting out there and struggling with it. (I’ve seen a few riders at clinics spend more time on their horse discussing theory with the clinician than they do actually riding in front of him - seems a waste of money to me, but hey, not my life).

These types seem to congregate at specific barns, so yeah, stay away from your co-worker’s facility. The good news is there are many, many cool dressage riders out there who are welcoming and friendly. I ride at such a barn, there aren’t many of us, but we are chill and don’t take ourselves too seriously. Control-freak over-analyzers who are afraid of other horses sharing the ring don’t last too long here. :slight_smile:

Or, go find an eventing barn. Then you can jump over stuff too.

[QUOTE=JBD;7697391]
I have had the opportunity to interact with dressage people who let their talent do the talking for them. [/QUOTE]

In my humble opinion, that is a touch difficult to do over the water cooler at work.

This is a non issue and kind of sad you can’t accord a bit of time to listen to a fellow rider, esp one you work with. A foolish move even from a professional point of view, you never know who will be promoted at work or be in a professional position at another company one day in a position to help, or ignore you.

Plus it just comes of whiney about nothing…turn on the news to get perspective and we should all kiss the ground for where we live and be more tolerant.

[QUOTE=Coanteen;7697514]
In my humble opinion, that is a touch difficult to do over the water cooler at work.[/QUOTE]

Pfft. I’m not sure what kind of water coolers they have at your workplace, but I think I could probably manage it. :wink:

“Everyone” does dressage … some more correctly or importantly than others :wink:

I honestly don’t think self-absorption is unique to dressage people. You could resent someone’s enthusiasm or tell yourself a nice story about it … Maybe this gal was so excited to have someone to talk to at work she overdid the introduction and next time will be more able to listen to your perspective.

[QUOTE=Coanteen;7697514]
In my humble opinion, that is a touch difficult to do over the water cooler at work.[/QUOTE]

Office dressage could really take off.

Enter office at elevator
Halt, sigh
Passage to desk
Half pass to coffee pot
Pirouette as you scan for napkins
Half pass past person who you don’t want to talk to (double coefficient for not making eye contact)
Piaffe at bathroom…

[QUOTE=GoneAway;7697561]
Office dressage could really take off.

Enter office at elevator
Halt, sigh
Passage to desk
Half pass to coffee pot
Pirouette as you scan for napkins
Half pass past person who you don’t want to talk to (double coefficient for not making eye contact)
Piaffe at bathroom…[/QUOTE]

Cue Eddie Izzard routine here. :smiley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQs1_HyyAo

[QUOTE=Sunsets;7697504]

IMHO, dressage tends to attract overly-analytic types who like thinking about every bit of a ride. This can manifest in a rather annoying fashion in some people. Not that they aren’t trying, they just seem to like talking about riding rather than getting out there and struggling with it. (I’ve seen a few riders at clinics spend more time on their horse discussing theory with the clinician than they do actually riding in front of him - seems a waste of money to me, but hey, not my life). [/QUOTE]

Now, now, I’m an overly-analytic type as well as a born-and-cultivated Theory Head. Heck, I ragged on Rene Descartes in another thread about the mind/body problem in the ASSumptions people make about smart people being physical idiots on horseback.

And I tend to give a horse a very “intellectual” ride. That is to say that I focus every minute on our conversation, mainly trying to make sure that what I “say” to the horse next makes sense to him in the context what what he said/did last. I promise you, the beasties don’t complain. In fact, they dig having a ride that’s so them-centric. Even when I choose to chill on a trail ride or let some ring-bound horse gallop outside or screw around bareback, that’s in service of the horse’s development and what he seems to need on that day to keep him happy.

ETA: Come to think of it, I was always this way, even when I rode fox hunters (and didn’t want to die), groomed for trainers, sat on crappy polo ponies that we hoped we’d someday make into quieter riding horses. I always brought my propensity to think carefully to what I did with horses. Dressage isn’t the only place this happens.

And I do appreciate the stereotype that folks who can’t/won’t/don’t wanna master the physical stuff build libraries and master the talk and ideas instead. I, too, stayed away from competitive dressage for a long time because of this. I’m still afraid that showing won’t be fun because of the company I’ll have to keep.

But-- and related to the topic–I have learned that it is really boring to listen to someone else’s intimate conversation with a horse. I don’t talk about this detailed stuff unless asked. I consider that common decency.

And, OP, if you have ever bored someone with your riding talk, just consider this recent experience to be the universe showing you what it was like to be on the receiving end of your horse stories. Be polite and don’t participate much in the conversation. When your time in Purgatory is done, your sins of boring others with horse talk expunged, she’ll leave you alone.

[QUOTE=Sunsets;7697504]

IMHO, dressage tends to attract overly-analytic types who like thinking about every bit of a ride. [/QUOTE]

Me. Sorry.

I get all excited when I start talking then I start salivating. Which turns me into a super geek, and probably quite the bozo since I really don’t even have all that many miles under me.

[QUOTE=emipou;7697587]
Me. Sorry.

I get all excited when I start talking then I start salivating. Which turns me into a super geek, and probably quite the bozo since I really don’t even have all that many miles under me.[/QUOTE]

:lol: I get spitty too and I don’t do dressage ever.

OP-maybe some examples from your conversations from the Ten Gallon Hat rider? But we all know that Arabs are way more fun so maybe they are trying to measure up.

I don’t know what Region you are in but there are so many Arabs in dressage up here in Region 6, we have a lot of fun-both AHA and USDF shows.

[QUOTE=mvp;7697582]
Now, now, I’m an overly-analytic type as well as a born-and-cultivated Theory Head. Heck, I ragged on Rene Descartes in another thread about the mind/body problem in the ASSumptions people make about smart people being physical idiots on horseback.

And I tend to give a horse a very “intellectual” ride. That is to say that I focus every minute on our conversation, mainly trying to make sure that what I “say” to the horse next makes sense to him in the context what what he said/did last. I promise you, the beasties don’t complain. In fact, they dig having a ride that’s so them-centric. Even when I choose to chill on a trail ride or let some ring-bound horse gallop outside or screw around bareback, that’s in service of the horse’s development and what he seems to need on that day to keep him happy.

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Oh, I think the analytic stuff is the best part about dressage! I’m a scientist in my day job - that translates nicely to ring work. And I hear you about focusing in on one thing at a time. My mental conversation during my ride yesterday consisted only of “don’t you DARE drop contact” and “don’t you DARE lose your seat” while the drama queen Allergy-Prone Mare flung her head hither and yon.

More importantly, you are out there doing it - trial and error and lessons learned and all that! You’re not bloviating or avoiding the attempt by asking more questions instead of just giving it a try.

Yeah, the OP’s post is exactly why I don’t talk about horses at work unless the other person specifically asks about it. How dare she get excited about the opportunity to talk to a fellow rider at work. The nerve!

Don’t worry, I’m sure she will soon realize that there are snobby hunter/jumper and breed show people too.

It’s so funny, because all the NON-horsey people at my job always want a blow-by-blow of each show, want to see pictures, and are always asking, “How is Mark?!?” (my horse). And - brace yourselves - NONE of them want to come and ride him, though they have mentioned they might want to come and watch a show. I tell them that even 2nd level can be boring to non-dressage people, but they say, “Oh, he’s so pretty, just seeing him trot around would be great.”

Now, I’m a legal assistant, and a couple of times I have met court reporters for depositions who have horses*, and we are off and running conversationally, even if they are NOT dressage people. Come on - unless the person is an obvious poseur - what horse person DOESN’T want to talk horses? LOL

*Funnier still, in one instance, the attorney for whom I worked stared at the reporter and said, “I never knew you had horses!” But the moment she saw the picture of my horse on my desk, the conversation was on! G

I was just at my high school reunion, and I met someone that I was never friends with at the time, but turns out she lives on a cattle ranch and loves horses, too. I was happy to talk to her about it, it was great. She had no idea really about horses, more of a functional rider, but she and I got along fine.

I think the “all hat no cattle” people are the ones who are most annoying, so I agree with you there, but it is nice to meet another person who likes horses, anyway. With the annoying ones I just keep my mouth shut and let it roll off.

Ha! I’m an attorney. Last year, TWO of our summer associates were horse people, and one of them used to own a mare that I showed against in the hunters before she owned her.

When those two summer associates came around for introductions last year, they each burst out with “DO YOU HAVE HORSES?!?!?” pretty much immediately because I have some pictures and some hunt scenes in my office. LOL. And then I showed them my horse’s extracted canine tooth that I keep in a jar on one of my shelves, thereby becoming the creepiest attorney in the firm. :slight_smile:

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It’s so funny, because all the NON-horsey people at my job always want a blow-by-blow of each show, want to see pictures, and are always asking, “How is Mark?!?” (my horse). And - brace yourselves - NONE of them want to come and ride him, though they have mentioned they might want to come and watch a show. I tell them that even 2nd level can be boring to non-dressage people, but they say, “Oh, he’s so pretty, just seeing him trot around would be great.”

Now, I’m a legal assistant, and a couple of times I have met court reporters for depositions who have horses*, and we are off and running conversationally, even if they are NOT dressage people. Come on - unless the person is an obvious poseur - what horse person DOESN’T want to talk horses? LOL

*Funnier still, in one instance, the attorney for whom I worked stared at the reporter and said, “I never knew you had horses!” But the moment she saw the picture of my horse on my desk, the conversation was on! G[/QUOTE]

I was sincerely touched when a coworker whose only affiliation with horses was that he grew up in Texas, drove 2 hours to come watch me in my first schooling show. Intro a, b, c. I tried to tell him how boring it would be but he came all the way out anyway. :slight_smile:

Oh God! I’m the annoying Dressage person at work. I must go hide under my desk now.

Op -Unfortunately you are the one stereotyping and showing discipline bias.

I may be wrong but I’ve seen (heard) more assumption of superiority from dressage wanna-bes than I ever heard in other disciplines. As I plan to return my hunter to dressage lessons and shows, I dread dealing with these kind of people. I love to ride and show but have definitely enjoyed the camaraderie of my Arabian show barn more than the dressage barns where I took lessons previously.