Anybody got any tips for convincing Comcast to connect cable to a farm?

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EVERYONE uses fiber networks to sling their services to customers and they have been for many years now. Verizon simply decided to heavily promote their use of it whereas others did not.[/QUOTE]

In some form or fashion, yes. In my area, Comcast operates a FTTN network - fiber to the node. The node converts the signal from light to RF (radio frequency). From there, lines leave the node in separate directions and get fed to customer premises through amplifiers and line extenders which essentially amplify that radio signal that’s being sent along the copper wire.

(Note: I used to work for a cable company in SC, so I’ll try not to over-techie this, but here’s a somewhat technical explanation…)

1200 feet (400 yards) is certainly too far for a standard coax RG-6 or RG-11 drop to work. In fact, 400 feet is pushing it with RG-11 (the thicker of the two mentioned). As the signal goes down the copper line, the further it goes, the weaker it becomes. Think of it like this… you’re driving away from a radio station’s broadcast tower. Eventually you are too far away and can’t pick up the signal anymore. (Some radio stations will install repeaters, which take the signal it picks up, amplifies it and re-broadcasts it.) The same goes for RF that is sent down a copper wire. The thicker the wire and better the insulation (to prevent outside interference), the further the signal will travel. For longer distances, at some point the signal gets too weak and you have to introduce an amplifier into the system to ensure that the signal is able to be delivered. One of several problems is that amplifiers can also introduce noise - something that’s not very nice to digital signals. It wasn’t too bad with analog. It was somewhat tolerable with some of the earlier used digital broadcasting technologies like (Q)PSK - (Quadrature) Phase Shift Keying. But as you get up into the QAM (Quadrature Amplitude Modulation) 256 technologies, the signal has to be pretty darn clean (interference free) for you to be able to really use it. (Think of this like talking to someone on a cell phone with bad reception or static. If you only hear every other word, you may not really understand what it is they’re talking about.)

So yes, everyone uses fiber… to a point. But in most cases, they’re not running FTTH / FTTP (Fiber To The Home / Fiber To The Premises) yet. Some people do… some even have FTTC (Fiber To The Curb). But most of America is still stuck at FTTN configurations when it comes to cable. (Which is significantly different than DSL technologies, which I won’t even begin to go into here.)

I don’t have any advice, but I have to say I can’t imagine anyone WANTING Comcast service :lol: Be prepared to pay out the nose and deal with non-existent customer service. Comcast is the only choice I have (rent and not allowed to install dishes) and I would rather have just about anything else!

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My dad did this for our house :slight_smile: He used:

One farm tractor with a backhoe (board local tractor owners can be rented)
Plastic tubing/pipe
Some sort of cable/internet/phone supporting wire
Beer

It’s really not to bad he did i in about too weekends for about 800 feet or so in distance. If you live in a rural area there should be lots of guys with tractors who would like to make some money, times are pretty bad right now.

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If you live in a town that grants a franchise to the cable company (Comcast in this case), oftentimes the franchise agreement betwen the town and the cable company REQUIRES that the cable company provide cable service to any town resident that request it. I once lived in a small, rural town in upstate NY that had granted a cable company a franchise license. My neighbor contacted the town and discovered that the cable company was required under the terms of the franchise agreement to run the cable down our rural road and provide us with srvice if we requested it. I would contact your local town and ask if they have granted Comcast a franchise agreement, and if so, if the agreement requires the cable company to provide universal service.[/QUOTE]

I’m a member of this same club. :frowning: No cell coverage, HATE Verizon but no other choice for phones, and have Hughesnet and Dish Network. (Both satellite providers work well now - locations of dishes on the house had to be adjusted and some small trees taken down, but coverage is great - except the Yankees refuse to work with Dish, they are only on Direct, but I love my HRTV & TVG and I don’t believe Direct has both of those. Would rather have unlimited racing than see all the Yankee games…)

I love you for saying this! :smiley: Our town has TimeWarner/Roadrunner. High speed cable is so much better. I’ve been belly aching about this for years…somehow I have a feeling it won’t be possible, but I’m sure looking into it!:yes:

ask for a site survey from comcast. I had the same issue, and 2 years later, after phone calls and a site survey, talking to the actual onsite guy… I was able to have them install it by coming down a back driveway from another street that isn’t my address (but still lies along my property… in fact my property is on both sides!). Over the phone I got the same scary quotes, and the ā€œwe have to go by your mailing adressā€ etc… but when it came down to it, the actual surveyor that does the measuring and budgets is the person you need to talk too. You may have to pay but it isn’t nearly as bad as they tell you. The site survey is free, and they considered how many feet it would be doing it from my mailbox side or the back drive… and it actually cost me NOTHING as I fell just under the number of feet (My back drive is around 500 feet… is your really 1200???) If I was over it would have been under a 1,000 from the quote I got… The survey is free you are not obligated to have cable installed if you DO get a scary quote. If you really want hugesnet… I will gladly sell you my old dish!!! :slight_smile:

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DTV and Hughesnet not much better…:no: and with the Hughesnet I kept busting their ā€œfair use policyā€ and having to pay to reset my internet speeds… and I have a horror story about having to have my dish repaired… not to mention rainy days when you want to watch TV, surf the web… and couldn’t…

I think they ALL rope you in with that first year subscription fees (and don’t tell you 119 a month is really 140 a month after adding all the extra fees) then jack it up after you first year…:eek: whether it is cable , or sattellite

no luck here either. we live .4 miles south of where the cable stops. the neighbors all have satellite which we don’t like because when we most want to sit and watch TV is in bad weather and then the stupid thing never works. A tree grows one branch too big, doesn’t work. They would bring it here…for thousands of dollars per house…so it’s a no go. Meanwhile the house development a mile to the south of us now has it. Someday…

My daughter lives in northern Frederick Co, not far from the Carroll County line. She has direct TV, which give good reception as long as the weather is good. Her internet is Wild Blue which is so, so slow and expensive. Movies and Youtube are impossible. One of her neighbors came by last week and showed her how he can use his cell phone to create a small Wi Fi zone. She seems to think that if she gets a new iPhone and a plan that supports more data usage, she can also set up a telephone based Wi Fi zone for her computer.

Let us know if you get Comcast to come out to your farm. Whatever technique you use might work for us, too. When she bought the farm last fall, Comcast told us they would provide service. Then, after I called to order the service, they said they would not provide service.

Spam. Connected to zombie 2011 thread.

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might add Charter is also a zombie or at least approaching the walking dead of a company

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Having been involved with municipal negotiations with Comcast I can tell you its not ever quite that simple. There are often areas that under negotiation with the town are required to be hooked up, these areas are roads that have service running past them and a certain density of houses that will be served. Then there is a cost formula assigned to anyone else if they call and request cable. There are houses in our town that have been told it will cost $100,000 to hook up unless they can get others on their road to split the bill. Comcast holds most of the cards in these situations. Its awful.

Comcast uses ā€œFiber to the Nodeā€ in the "neighborhood. It’s all coax from there. Unfortunately, the issue that the OP reports is all too common in many areas. DSLreports.com is a good resource for the OP to investigate strategies…there’s a Comcast specific forum area there.

It might be spam, but we had the same response when we called about connecting Comcast to our farm house. Our quote was $20,000.

Frontier internet is in the area and we can get internet from them but I have heard they are horrific. I’m going to be sad to lose my netflix and hulu.

We were the last house on our road, but the cable stopped just before our property line. It is about 1/4 mile from the last cable pedestal to our house. We made a compromise with the company that we would get someone to do the trenching from the property line to the house at 18 inches deep and then fill in the trench ourselves. Comcast had a subcontractor trench along the right of way along the road and lay the cable from the last pedestal to our house in the trench we had an irrigation company do.

Initial quote with Comcast doing ALL of the work from last pedestal to the house was $10,000. Our cost by having the trench from the road to the house done by a different person and then they laid the line and connected the house was around $5,000.

It was expensive, but it was well worth it. We will recoup the cost of the install in a couple of years due to the lower cost of internet and tv.

Enjoy the ride: run fast and far if you have another option! Frontier dsl is awful in NE OH. I cannot even access work email which uses online outlook w/out constant freezes, drops etc. The excuse is an undersized hub, which the company will not address. Do a google search and you’ll see it’s nationwide.

Oh no.