It’s erm, uh. Bleach (in a nutshell).
Sodium Hypochlorite.
So yeah, it kills 99.999999% of bacteria cause bleach will do that for ya.
I’m sure it has something else in it too which is why they claim proprietary and the exact concentrations of bleach etc. as well as the micro reaction technology or whatever it is they call it.
For the geeks
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So I got sucked into RFD’s hour on Vetericyn last night. It looks pretty amazing. Wondering if anyone one here has any experience with it. One of the guys on the show sprayed it into his mouth to show how harmless it is. The veterinarian on the show HAS to be on the payroll somehow–he uses it for EVERYTHING. You can spray it in the eye–no sting, it kills the bad stuff but not the good tissue, you can use it to flush infertile mares and they magically get pregnant (ok, that was only one anecdotal story) it cures hot spots, distemper wounds, rain rot, girth itch, you name it. The human versions cured an ulcer on a guys leg that had been open for 20-30 years…I mean this stuff is crazy.
So does it WORK?
You know the old saying, if it sounds too good to be true…[/QUOTE]
I think you might read about it here: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/155440.php
and make up your own mind whether it’s a reputable company.
I used Microcyn, which is the version for human animals, and it was good. I now use Vetericyn, because it’s cheaper and has the exact same ingredients as Microcyn did. Microcyn now has preservatives added, but it’s essentially the same product. It’s not just the ingredients that matter but the formulation and method of preperation also. After all, almost the same ing. go into making cake as making bread (yes, bread contains sugar), but the end result is not the same. I use the gel for some things and the liquid spray for others.
People have been having a lot of fun with their thoughts about the product, and much of it has to do with our fear of being fooled. I’m old, and I’m not as touchy about that stuff as I once was, so I read and try things.
I bought a bottle off a friend’s recommendation. I’ve used it on rainrot, scratches, and a few rubs. I am not impressed; hasn’t helped the scratches at all. Doesn’t seem to heal the other stuff any better than cheaper things.
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Vetericyn says on the bottle not to freeze because once it freezes it is not longer effective. the ingredients are not active any longer and the same thing happens when it is stored in direct sunlight hints the blue bottle. It also has an expirtation date. I just think that for a 16oz bottle that cost 35 dollars there are more negatives than positives when you can purchase a bottle of say Banixx that is cheaper and just as effective if not more.
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I’ve seen those ads on RFDTV too and I was skeptical. However, a friend bought some. Right now I have three “lesions” from ring worm, contracted from a sick feral kitten. I got a prescription from my doctor and started using it on two of the lesions. The third one, I used Vetericyn from my friend. That lesion and one other were for all purposes identical when I started. After using them both one day, it was obvious that even though the prescription had a strong steriod to stop the itching, the Vetericyn was working much better than the prescription in that department. So, I started using Vetericyn on one that kept itching. After two days, the one that I had started using Vetericyn on was much less red and starting to heal. The other two were not. I have now switched completely to Vetericyn and stopped the prescription!
I wanted to try both, just to see what Vetericyn would do. Now I know. For my ringworm, at least, it actually out performed the prescription and has helped immensely.
I understand that ring worm has a life cycle of 45 days. I have had the lesions for less than a week, so it isn’t as if they’re healing themselves!
This seems like a good product to me. It sure doesn’t take much – I just wet my finger with it and applied that to the lesion. Expensive, but maybe it’s worth it!
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I’ve seen those ads on RFDTV too and I was skeptical. However, a friend bought some. Right now I have three “lesions” from ring worm, contracted from a sick feral kitten. I got a prescription from my doctor and started using it on two of the lesions. The third one, I used Vetericyn from my friend. That lesion and one other were for all purposes identical when I started. After using them both one day, it was obvious that even though the prescription had a strong steriod to stop the itching, the Vetericyn was working much better than the prescription in that department. So, I started using Vetericyn on one that kept itching. After two days, the one that I had started using Vetericyn on was much less red and starting to heal. The other two were not. I have now switched completely to Vetericyn and stopped the prescription!
I wanted to try both, just to see what Vetericyn would do. Now I know. For my ringworm, at least, it actually out performed the prescription and has helped immensely.
I understand that ring worm has a life cycle of 45 days. I have had the lesions for less than a week, so it isn’t as if they’re healing themselves!
This seems like a good product to me. It sure doesn’t take much – I just wet my finger with it and applied that to the lesion. Expensive, but maybe it’s worth it![/QUOTE]
At the race track, as per vet instructions, 40 years ago, we used half water, half bleach on ringworm and assorted “cruds” and most of them went away with ONE application and it doesn’t sting at all.
We used it on horses, dogs, cats and humans.
Vetericyn is not diluted bleach
I have used both Vetericyn and Microcyn for the past ten months. It worked so well that I did some research to discover what was behind this product. The first thing I discovered is that it is in no way shape or form diluted bleach. Dakin’s solutions is diluted bleach, but is no longer in common use because it damages mammalian tissue. It is one-twelfth as strong as bleach, .5% sodium hypochlorite. Vetericyn has trace amounts of sodium hypochlorite, .004%, which means Dakins solutions has 125 times more sodium hypochlorite than Vetericyn. To put it another way, there is 1500 times more sodium hypochlorite in bleach than in Vetericyn. Obviously, that is not the anti-microbial mechanism behind Vetericyn. There are also traces of hypochlorous acid, .003 percent, yet this small amount, coupled with an ORP of over 800 (oxidative reduction potential) produces an incredibly wide-spectrum microbicide. It also produces anti-inflammatory results because it inhibits mast cell degranulation, cytokine production, histamine productions, all without harming the mast cells in any way. Elevated tissue oxygen levels are a big part of the healing process–lasting out to 72 hours after an application. This promotes neo-vascularization. So you get this three-fold effect–anti-inflammatory, anti-microbial, and elevated oxygen. That’s the secret behind it’s success.
Sometimes the over-the-counter version of Vetericyn is a little weak on certain biofilms, like pseudomonas. There is a Vetericyn VF that your vet can give you that will totally knock out anything the regular Vetericyn might not. The VF is also pH neutral, but has higher levels of hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which is natural to the mammalian immune system:
HOCl is known to be the major strong oxidant produced by neutrophils, and is a potent microbicidal agent within these cells.2,10 Experimentally, it has been estimated that 106 neutrophils stimulated in vitro can produce 0.1 ƒÊM HOCl. This quantity of HOCl can kill 1.5 ~ 107 Escherichia coli in less than 5 minutes.13
I use both and there is nothing I cannot heal if I use these products consistently.
To put it another way, there is 1500 times more sodium hypochlorite in bleach than in Vetericyn.
So if you dilute bleach a little farther and add a little hypochorous acid, (or swimming pool bleach, if you like) that is then the same as this product, yes? Why not, then, just dilute some bleach a little bit more and call it the same product.
All of the wonderful properties you mention would be seen with very, very dilute bleach + a smidge of hypochlorous acid, then, yes? Unless you’re saying that there is some mystery ingredient in this product that makes it “something more”?
I use both and there is nothing I cannot heal if I use these products consistently.
Nothing? Wow. Is the Nobel coming this year or next year? :rolleyes:
psst - deltawave – all you need to do is adjust the pH a bit to get a mix of hypochlorous acid and hypochorite-- just add the right amount of a proton source and you’re good to go. Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, anyone?
I don’t want the product–I don’t want in on the COTH version of it–
But I just found this thread and I want that cute little pug doggie on the Vetericyn website!!! 
Kim
One of my horse vets suggested it to me for an intractable case of rainrot/ringworm. He described it as “super-potentiated” hydrogen peroxide. I bought two bottles–stupid me–and used them both on two different animals. Got to say they worked.
But if someone here would post a homemade recipe for the equivalent–it’s really some form of Dakin’s solution, isn’t it–it would save a whole bunch of money. According to a nurse on FOL, it’s not the original Dakin’s but an especially diluted form.
The COTH company could get its patent based on adding tint (a different tint for different bottles for each different possible application) and one of the rare earths mined from the highest reaches of a mountain with a Sedona type vortex somewhere deep in the Himalayas.
I understand that ring worm has a life cycle of 45 days. I have had the lesions for less than a week, so it isn’t as if they’re healing themselves
um yes, it is called your immune system
most mature people resolve this type ringworm fairly easilly. Children and immune compromised can be more challenging.
Our go to in clinical for random hot ringworm spots on us ( feline only practice, it happens) was bleach water
Ringworm may or may not have a “life cycle” of 45 days, but I assure you the ringworm is not in the business of living for 45 days and then disappearing. It wants to grow, wants to spread, wants to have another life cycle, and another, and another, just like any other living thing.
And putting steroids on ringworm is pretty much a no-no. Just makes it worse. I know it gets done, but it’s no wonder they get better slowly if you’re using steroids. :no:
We have this marvelous thing called an IMMUNE SYSTEM that fights off all but the peskiest of ringworm attacks. Adults are particularly good at it, even without majikal solutions of watered-down Clorox.
Never EVER put steroids on a fungus. I know this from personal experience at the age of eight when I had histoplasmosis in my eyes. It just fertilizes them. My doctor figured out fungus early, but I know two men who went legally blind from steroid treatment for eye histoplasmosis while in the Army.
Vetericyn formula
From what I can tell on a little research , I would stay clear of the bleach concept and the hydrogen peroxide is not exactly the ingredients either. I think one of the key elements of the product which enables them to use it w/o concern about drinking it in etc. is the use of ozonzated (sp?) This product is used in food preparation to reduce bacteria and possible spread of infection. It is ionized water resulting in water being treated with ozone.
Thank you!
I thank all of you for a fun and educational thread. I’ve seen the commercials on RFD TV & wondered just what the stuff is but knew I’d never use it due to its very high price.
I wonder how much Clinton Anderson is being paid for touting it?
Ha, I got suckered by that infomercial! Applied the gelatinous version of Vetericyn to itchy scratchy-scrapes on my mare’s face and around her eyes (no, I didn’t put it in her eyes, although the label says that’s just fine).
A week later, no improvement whatsoever. In fact, one of her eyelids actually got worse and swole up!
Well, on Day 6 I found I had left the Vetericyn bottle in the tack room, so, lazy bum that I am, I squirted some plain old Walgreens saline wound-wash on a 4 x 4, cleaned off the swollen eye, gently held the wet 4 x 4 on there to kind of soothe and cool the eye, and whaddya know. Swelling visibly reduced after 5 minutes. Next morning the eye was completely fine.
Stuff also had no effect on mare’s scratches. You know what did, though? Getting her out of the gross manure-filled dry lot at the boarding barn and moving her home to a pristine, grassy paddock, lovingly picked daily by me.
Sometimes common sense is the best cure.
I’ve used it on myself. I have had unexplained small sores that itch (perhaps a fungus) and after I scratch it, then I have a bleeding sore. This stuff does not sting and it is applied easily with the sprayer. Sores are going away.
My Dobie has a lump on his leg. We lost our Dobie female to Spindle Cell Cancer which started with a lump on her leg. So I was planning to take the dog to the vet next week. Kasey licks the lump and over this weekend, it opened up a bit so we have started to spray with the product. Lump is down 50%.
Our small animal vet has a testimonial on this product playing on a CD at one of the local tack stores.
Yes, it is pricey… $30 for 16 ounces.
Oh, Oakstable, I’m sorry about your dobie’s cancer and glad to hear that it is working on the other one’s lump.
I noticed my boy isn’t taking the steps like he used to, and I’m already going into premature heartbreak mode a bit.
must not cry at work must not cry at work*
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