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Anyone else seeing chunks in their safechoice? Picture added

Horse Care
#21

[QUOTE=Amchara;4363934]
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/Shurrayah/?action=view&current=safechoicechunks.jpg

top- normal safechoice
left-mystery added feed
right-chunks[/QUOTE]

Unbelievable. I wouldn’t want to feed anything that can change that much, glad I switched.

The thing that bothers me most with not having a fixed formula is this- What if your horse was allergic to barley, let say. Well, you’ve checked the tag and there is no barley in it. Then the next batch they find barley to be hte cheaper ingredient that time and use it. Having already checked the previous bag you likely would not check it again, feed it, and have your horse get something he shouldn’t have. I quit feeding it as soon as I knew they didn’t manufacture it using a fixed formula. There is no need to change the ingredients from bag to bag in my opinion, none.

#22

Safechoice’s NSC is about 23%. I just checked it for a client who had a foundered horse on it. They, like many people, were misled by the name “safe” choice and the company’s misleading marketing.

Seriously, if I saw crap like that in my horse’s feed, it would go right back to who I bought it from. Let them sort it out with Nutrena. I had some oats recently contaminated with raw soybeans. I took it back to the mill and while they bitched and moaned about it, I pointed out that raw soybeans are toxic to horses, a major allergen, and I’d hate to think what would happen to their liability if someone’s horse got sick or died. They shut up and took the oats back.

#23

i was at a barn that fed safe choice to the horses, including mine. they would make their feed one week in advance and i had to add my own supplements. i do recall having the dark green pellets that you see on the left of the picture show up from time to time. i started thinking i had already added my supps, but couldn’t remember doing it. it’s weird how they can just change the formula/ingredients.

#24

I have fed SafeChoice for years, like alot of you, and have never had any problems with it at all. My horses are thriving on it. Glossy coats, great feet, good weight, and all that good stuff. But I would take that bag back, and you must have the tag attached so the company can track it back to the plant it came from, and get either your money back or a new bag.
I know there are alot of people that go bunkers about it not being a fixed formula. It really makes no difference to me. I’m sure it would if my horse was delicate and couldn’t handle changes but my horses are hardy and take changes in stride. I see changes in sweet feed all the time but never hear people getting all stirred up with that. Sweet feed changes color, texture and ingredients prob more than anything else.

#25

Visited the dealer

I brought the chunks and mystery pellets to my feed store today, and they weren’t the least bit concerned. Said it was probably the end of the run and it happens, probably wouldn’t feed the chunks though.

Went on about how they’ve been told that other companies such as LMF are deceitful with false advertising and its all lies. But Cargill produces people food so it gets randomly inspected and if a batch is pulled that they don’t like… (and implied bad, bad, bad things happened, but didn’t say what that was). And its all organic and those other feed companies don’t use organic selenium and blahblahblah. I sat down and quoted some of the stuff I heard here, such as the different colors of safechoice and they different tags regionally, got a sort of blank look followed by “all the companies talk crap about each other.”

Really, its all like High School. Sally heard from Danni who heard from Lena who was told by Stephanie not to tell anyone, but here I am hearing it. sigh.

(yes, this sounds cranky because its been a long, long day)

#26

Alternative.

http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/lowstarch.php

Dealers in WA.

http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/dealers.php?s=WA&c=CHS

#27

Second the LMF…

Yep, kinda like high school…

Anyway, I would recommend the LMF also. If my memory is correct, the Stage 1 is 11% NSC.

I have not seen any changes/weirdness from bag to bag, with any of the LMF feed products…

#28

i feed a tiny bit(1-2lbs/day) of SC and all it does is make the the Enrich 32 taste better since two of my 4 don’t like the taste of E32 by itself so i add some SC to it and the 1-2lbs i use gets split between the 4 so none of them get alot of it.

the SC i get is either the desert sand color or a slightly green color always smells good and the horses like it but i wouldn’t feed this as my only type of feed.

#29

It was very funny, I asked them if they knew LMF was 11% NSC, while Safechoice was in the 20’s. Their answer was that LMF is only reporting the sugar, not the starch, and that it is actually much higher than safechoice.

Very funny how I missed TC being available in more than one WA location. Wow, I feel computer literate.

#30

[QUOTE=Amchara;4366789]
I brought the chunks and mystery pellets to my feed store today, and they weren’t the least bit concerned. Said it was probably the end of the run and it happens, probably wouldn’t feed the chunks though.

Went on about how they’ve been told that other companies such as LMF are deceitful with false advertising and its all lies. But Cargill produces people food so it gets randomly inspected and if a batch is pulled that they don’t like… (and implied bad, bad, bad things happened, but didn’t say what that was). And its all organic and those other feed companies don’t use organic selenium and blahblahblah. I sat down and quoted some of the stuff I heard here, such as the different colors of safechoice and they different tags regionally, got a sort of blank look followed by “all the companies talk crap about each other.”

Really, its all like High School. Sally heard from Danni who heard from Lena who was told by Stephanie not to tell anyone, but here I am hearing it. sigh.

(yes, this sounds cranky because its been a long, long day)[/QUOTE]

My tags were not from a different region. I buy all my grains right here. I had five different tags from the same feed store over a two month period. I got my info about not having a fixed formula from Nutrena.

#31

I’ve been feeding Safe Choice for about four years, and I have never ever ever had a bad batch or a problem. It looks and smells the same every time.

#32

Interesting. Mine are green.

#33

I recently switched from Nutrena SC and their Ration Balancer to Purina Ultium Gastric Care. I had noticed issues off and on with a huge portion (maybe 1/3 of the bag) being crushed to a powder as well as chunks of feed, especially in the SC. I was never too happy about it but now that I’ve switched feeds, I realize that the issue is unacceptable. I’d suggest finding a different feed that has a much lower NSC and a fixed formula.

#34

Errrr maaa gawwd definitely looks like there was a problem in the bagging process…I would call nutrena with the bag in hand so you can read them the" identifying number" off the bag those look like alfalfa pellets and blurp blops of safe choice mix like they transitioned from producing one kind of feed to safe choice and your bag was caught in the middle.

#35

The whole feed/nutrition business has probably changed since 2009 !

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