Apparel Lines Copying Each Other

[QUOTE=Belmont;8513573]
I believe she is talking about the Linden shirt, which I love.

http://www.rjclassics.com/c/ladies_shirts

http://www.carouselhorsetack.com/products/rj-classics-ladies-linden-navy-white-show-shirt?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=4693708033&gclid=CNfzsdTw28oCFQqpaQodnP0LXg

$84 at Carousel![/QUOTE]

Oh wow, those are pretty.

I’m so excited to find a cheaper version of this style shirt! Thank you!!!

Haha! I’m sure Le Fash must be thrilled that all their complaining has done nothing but cause us to ridicule them for thinking they “own” contrasting knee patches, and directed a bunch of us to some really attractive and reasonably priced Le Fash-looking shirts that we’re going to go out and purchase!!

[QUOTE=vxf111;8513520]
I think Romfh did it BEFORE Le Fash (two tone/fabric shirts)[/QUOTE]

And it’s been a thing in non-equestrian shirts for years. I’ve got several ancient Patagonia shirts that are two-tone, and a sporty no-name polo that I wear to ride in but wasn’t a horse brand at all.

Saying two-tone styled shirts is original is like me starting a company making boucle riding jackets and ignoring the fact that Coco Chanel was making boucle coats 80 years ago. If you’re going to be in the business, at least know a little about design history; most modern designers are happy to talk about their inspirations, not pretend that Dior-New-Look dress emerged fully formed from their head alone.

[QUOTE=trubandloki;8512653]
Gosh, I never would have thought contrasting knee patch was a fashion statement. Haven’t knee patches that do not actually match been around forever?[/QUOTE]

I had a pair of black breeches with tan knee patches back in the 80s.

Everyone knocks off everyone in this industry it’s sad. TS and RJ knocked off the talent yarn shirt and the snap collar along with every other brand, and copied the pikeur Ciara front zip euro seat breeches. One K knocked off Samshield It’s sad none of these companies can design anything they just by samples and copy them with crappy material and make them cheap. You get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=trubandloki;8513314]
On the other side of this coin, their technique is working to some degree. We are talking about them.[/QUOTE]

Talking yes - buying never…

Tailored Sportsman is a household name for breeches. IMHO, the go to pant for everyone. Here’s my gripe, TS are expensive enough as is- but Le Fash is even more expensive. They advertise how the pants are for everyday wearing as fashion too. That’s great BUT I want a pant that is built to withstand me riding horses, taking tumbles in the dirt, setting courses up… Not going for coffee with my boyfriend.

I’m ecstatic about TS making these (and my employer Dover is carrying them now! So I CAN look in fashion at work). And the TS just fit me. Anyone with hips tried on Le Fash pants? I’m just not a fan. Also not a fan of the childish bickering on social media…

[QUOTE=lindsay.anne;8520321]
Also not a fan of the childish bickering on social media…[/QUOTE]

If it’s any consolation, no one has been ruder in person than the TS rep at AETA last year. So I have no particular interest in sending my $$$ to that company either.

[QUOTE=Elementgrl2;8520141]
Everyone knocks off everyone in this industry it’s sad. TS and RJ knocked off the talent yarn shirt and the snap collar along with every other brand, and copied the pikeur Ciara front zip euro seat breeches. One K knocked off Samshield It’s sad none of these companies can design anything they just by samples and copy them with crappy material and make them cheap. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]

Um, Samshield and OneK are made by the same company, FYI.

I love TS breeches and how they fit me, but I was really turned off when I heard about how one of the local tack store employees put in a product inquiry about carrying the rust colored TS breeches, and the woman she spoke to (probably the same one) told her that no, the store wasn’t allowed to carry them. Her decision, not store management’s decision, and she was incredibly snotty about it.

There are very few truly “new” designs in fashion that have not been inspired by the past, adjacent categories, art, nature, whatever.

I can understand their frustration, but the best defence is to produce new, trendsetting designs and innovative materials on a consistent, cyclical basis if your positioning strategy is ‘luxe trendy’. This is expensive, though, and cheap copycats are inevitable.

Or - you have to win on service, customization, or provide some other added value to your distributors and/or end consumers to differentiate yourself from the copies. A full brand and product strategy covers all of these bases.

[QUOTE=vxf111;8520401]
If it’s any consolation, no one has been ruder in person than the TS rep at AETA last year. So I have no particular interest in sending my $$$ to that company either.[/QUOTE]

I’ve heard that a few times about that company. It’s a shame really!

[QUOTE=lindsay.anne;8521116]
I’ve heard that a few times about that company. It’s a shame really![/QUOTE]

That is a shame. It probably speaks volumes of the company culture at TS and how their sales and customer service reps are treated by upper mgmt.