el insider, please start another thread on your opinions on keeping injured horses alive.
Just don’t do it on this thread. I started this to have positive thought on Barbaro.
Absolutely no need to post negativity here.
Thank you.
Dr. Dean Richardson has spoken about how much he learned from working on Barbaro. He learned things that worked well and things to do differently next time. Things that will help other horses in the future. If risks aren’t taken sometimes and new things aren’t tried, then there won’t be advances in medicine.
Barbaro’s injuries were bad and it was a long shot that he would make it. But from the media reports I read, he came pretty close to making it.
el insider – Since Texarkana was actually there taking care of Barbaro, she is more qualified than you are to talk about what happened and the quality of life he had all those months.
I see no reason to further feed trolls like el insider, this was gone over until I could have puked last year. The fact is that Barbaros whole team was interested in his best interests and when it became clear that his best interest was euthanasia, there was no hesitancy on anybodys part. I for one, felt gratitude and pride that such a magnificent racehorse had such magnificent people taking care of him. I am anxious to hear the final plans for his ashes.
Baltimore Sun Jan 15, 2008 “Decision due on Barbaro’s ashes”
excerpt
Yesterday, Jackson said the museum idea had been put aside, but every outside offer of a resting place has been considered and she and her husband are “very close” to making a decision.
“It’s taken us long enough,” she said. "The No. 1 thing we’ve been doing is trying to decide who will do a statue of Barbaro. We’ve spent time looking at various artists’ work, and we’re now waiting on maquettes [small preliminary models] to see how each artist represents him. That’s what we’re waiting for. Once we see those, and I don’t know how much longer that will take, everything should come together.
“He will be in a significant place where there is access to everyone who is interested in visiting him,” she said. “It’s an appropriate place in terms of how we like to think of him.”
Thankfull Roy and Gretchen Jackson have distanced themselves away from this freaking mess to be installed in Central Park: BloodHorse 1-24-08 “Barbaro Statue for Central Park”
Roy Jackson, who campaigned Barbaro under the name of Lael Stables, would not comment on the statue other than to say, “We have absolutely nothing to do with it.”
It’s sick to use the death of a horse to push an agenda especially when those persons have utterly no clue about racing. This b.s. of making Congress pass a law to disclose breakdowns is what sets me off. Such stats are in large part provided albeit not as a public press release but to a JC related organization.
This is a disgrace. It does Barbaro no justice. Did you catch the description of the statue?:
The press release states that the statue, being installed courtesy of the Kesting Gallery, will depict Barbaro “in the winner’s circle, on his back, with his number 8 saddle cloth draping his belly, and hooves in the air, representing his inability to stand on his feet due to the debilitating laminitis which followed the shattered ankle he suffered in the 2006 Preakness Stakes.”
I wonder if this can be stopped. I hope so.
It makes me sick. As Glimmer said, using the death of a horse to push an agenda is outrageous. I hope it can be stopped also.
What? Are you SERIOUS? What about all the foundation money that has POURED in after Barbaro’s death? Why is THAT acceptable but this is an outrage?
Who knows, maybe a statue of a “belly up” horse will have much more impact than a head shot of a what appears to be a perfectly healthy animal.
Go ahead and flame away, but your outrage at this “agenda” is the essence of hypocrisy.
[QUOTE=hitchinmygetalong;2960424]
Go ahead and flame away, but your outrage at this “agenda” is the essence of hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]
I’m not a FOB and have never looked to use him for any purposes of raising money or pushing legislation or reform. The Grayson-Jockey Research Foundation has been putting money into laminitis long before Barbaro was conceived let alone a trained to run.
If I’m a hypocrite somehow in saying that I dislike an artist who feels the need to make a political and commercial statement over the unfortunate death of a horse so be it.
Accordingly then I’ll ‘eagerly’ await Daniel Edwards next statue to be released coinciding on Breeders’ Cup Classic day of George Washington on his side in the mud with the agenda to abolish dirt track racing. Or his statue of Massoud to be unveiled on opening day of Saratoga to coincide the anniversary of his death July 25, 2007 on the turf - again to promote the need for Congress to abolish horses running on it.
Yep nothing like using public space and art to push an agenda afixed to a populist name in the hopes to sell more of your work or at the very least generate controversy to build a name.
Considering the other work of this artist I’m sort of surprised that they would put his stuff out there for all to see.
Just sort of tasteless, if you ask me (as is putting Barbaro’s name on a “law” that his own owners and connections have nothing to do with. Just seems sort of cheap. Raising money for the agenda of laminitis research is at least beneficial and related to the horse, and supported by his owners. It at least makes sense…)
(of course, many also used Barbaro to further other agendas- anti slaughter and rescue work, which on its surface is great, but may have been taken to really insane levels by some FOBs…)
This is thinly veiled anti-racing propaganda, plain and simple. It doesn’t help horses in any way.
From the memorial’s website, BarbarosLaw.com:
Barbaro’s Law
The Memorial’s website, BarbarosLaw.com, provides an online petition urging Congress to pass a law that would arm consumers with the truth about the perils of horseracing by requiring racetracks to disclose race-related injury and fatality statistics. “Informed race patrons may choose to avoid contributing to the breakdown and destruction of racehorses by not buying a ticket or placing a bet,” said gallery co-director, David Kesting. Estimates are that 700-800 horses are killed on racecourses annually in the US and Canada with an additional 375 racehorse deaths in the UK.
I’d argue that career horse-players, the ones that hole up in their “office” consisting of a simulcast screen within a cubicle completely removed from view of the actual track itself, Daily Racing Form in hand, won’t give two hoots about the proposal of a “Barbaros Law” anyway, no matter how shocking the statue.
I agree with raising money for laminitis research, totally. I just hate using the name of a single horse to try to promote it further. It has happened to so many, and the Jackson’s aren’t connected with this.
My opinion is that this (statue) is unproductive.
I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear that the Jackson’s have nothing to do with that monstrosity. At first I thought that was where they were going to put his ashes and that was the statue the chose to commemorate him. Totally disgusting rubbish if you ask me.
More:
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/SPORTS/80124080/1002/rss04
A spokeswoman for the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation said it has not received an application for a special event permit or a temporary public art permit allowing the unveiling…"This has nothing to do with us, nothing whatsoever,’’ Barbaro’s co-owner, Gretchen Jackson, said of the memorial. "This is not the kind of thing you’d really want to see.
"It’s just startling that someone wants to remember Barbaro like that. But it doesn’t bother me. I have a great picture of Barbaro in my mind. I know how everyone will really remember him.’’
and did anybody notice this from this website? http://barbaroslaw.com/
What complete $%&^@^ idiots.
Barbaro, winner of the Kentucky Derby by the largest margin of victory since 1946, was considered a shoe-in for The Triple Crown and the English Derby, fuelling speculation his life was prolonged for the earning of stud fees.
"It’s just startling that someone wants to remember Barbaro like that. But it doesn’t bother me. I have a great picture of Barbaro in my mind. I know how everyone will really remember him.’’
Ok I wasn’t with Barbaro throughout his hospitalization, but I would bet everything I own that there was never a single second where Barbaro looked anything like that statue. Not once did he lie there with all four legs in the air because he was too sore to stand. He was medicated to minimize his pain the entire time and at the very end when the pain was too much for him they had him in a sling, not laying on his back in agony. Its not a memory, its a fallacy. I bet some PETA ahole is behind this whole disgraceful mess.
Do you think it would help if we started a write-in campaign to explain our distaste and incredulity?
Does anyone know to whom we should send a letter or email?
Perhaps the artist could do a statue of a carriage horse belly up instead???
only half-kidding about that–but ever hopeful, and serious about writing to someone.
I seriously doubt it. Artists like this guy have only one thing in mind…and you can’t argue with someone who believes they’re always right while everyone else is wrong. :no: Disgusting, indeed!
And what the heck is the deal with Barbaro’s Law? They can’t even get their facts straight, let alone anything else!!
I think Mrs. Jackson is handling all of this so gracefully.
This January 29th…
Can I ask if anyone has knowledge of any television networks planning any news or feature segments on their programs that will commemorate Barbaro this coming week? Do you hink the nightly national news broadcasts will mention him? I hope that there will be some screening of him and how people feel today and highlighting some of the good that is being done in his name. Thank you so much. Can I also ask the administrators, if we post poems or other writings on the discussions here, do they become the property of the boards?
Eventhough other horses suffer from laminitis naming a fund after him is not a bad idea since his owners became huge donors to the cause. A lot of horses suffer the same fate so it needed more attention and money for research. As you will like a jump start… There are many buildings and funds named for benefactors.
That statue is dispicable (sp) it is not a representation it is HIS view, but that is art…
