Barbaro ~ America's Horse

Powerful and touching poem!:eek: Thanks to Melissa for composing it and VB for posting it. Course I’m sitting here with tears running down my cheeks from reading it.

Time to go turn the horses out and clean stalls since it rained last night and my wimps spent a good bit of time in them. Sometimes 24/7 turnout still means they stay in their stalls anyway. My ottb was still sleeping this morning when I put his feed tub in. Had to give him a a couple of slaps on his big butt to get him to get up. Lazy boy!

Well, off to light a couple more candles for Barbaro first!

Thanks Alex/Tim:

Update 339: Barbaro had another comfortable day (saturday). Had dinner with Peter and Kim. Other interesting factoids:

Messenger was a racehorse, I think trained by Michael, but not very fast. I think he may have had a stakes winning sibling.

Bobby, Barbaro’s nickname, is such because Nicholas, Peter and Kim’s son, could not say “Barbaro” … he is quite young.

I also wanted to note that a couple of people have noted sons and daughters of Dynamformer as half bothers / sisters to Bobby. We do not actually consider a thoroughbred a sibling (or half sibling) unless they are out of the same dam. Thus Bobby’s siblings are Holy Ground (four year old half brother) Man of Havana (two year old half brother), and his weanling full brother, yet unnamed.

Sunday Morning~

Update 340: No update yet for sunday, but I will likely know something by mid morning. In the meantime here are a couple of articles, one old and one new. The new one, from the Daily Racing Form, is essentially an interview with Michael Matz from yesterday in Saratoga: Matz keeping an eye on Barbaro. Michael relayed how the last few weeks have been:

“At one point I thought I was going to win the Triple Crown with this horse, next time I was sort of resigned to the fact maybe it wasn’t supposed to be and he’s going to come through this and be a great stallion,” Matz said. “Then, when this other thing happened, I sort of resigned myself that they were going to put him down. Next morning I go and look, there he is bright-eyed. Every time I had myself resigned to something that was going to happen it never did. I don’t think physically I was getting tired, emotionally I never knew what to expect.”

He was also asked about Bernadini yesterday:

“I’m anxious to see the race,” Matz said. “Bernardini’s a real nice horse. It sure would have been nice to see them run against each other; that’s never going to happen.”

Matz was asked if part of him was rooting for Bernardini to lose so that his chances of unseating Barbaro as 3-year-old champion would diminish.
“Right now, I’m more worried about saving his life instead of whether he’s 3-year-old champion,” he said.

The second article, which I don’t think I had seen, is about Peter Brette, some of his background etc: Exercise rider Brette on journey of a lifetime with Barbaro. Obviously this is an old article, and the journey has taken major turns since the article was written. The final piece of the article is poignant:

At mid-afternoon on Derby Day, a good friend of Brette’s from Ireland strolled up to the barn to greet the horse and rider.

“She gazed into his eyes for a while,” Brette said. “Then she turned to me and said: ‘He’s an old soul. He’s been here before.’”

I have no wish to divert the thread, but this is confusing to me, not being versed in TB breeding. Is there a link to another thread or a good web resource to clarify why this is so? I would think that for horses and all other sexually-produced beings, since half-siblings share half their genetic material (mitochondrial DNA which is conserved on the mother’s side apart), they would be seen as such, whichever parent they share in common.

My guess is that a stallion can sire hundreds and hundreds of offspring, particularly now with AI and frozen. The mare can only produce just so many foals, even with ET.

The foal gets more from the dam so … that’s my best hunch, and I don’t know if this is true across all breeds of horses.

Oakstable is correct.
It’s always been that the relationship side of equine breeding comes from the link to the mare.
So, you have either full siblings (same mare, same stallion) or half siblings (same mare).

Thanks Tim/Alex:

Update 341: Its great Michael is spending a couple of days at Saratoga (I think he is returning monday) as he has enabled more media coverage for Bobby. This Times Union article: Barbaro touches a heart includes some of the same interview covered by the Racing Form article in update 340. Here are a couple of excerpts that are new:

“I have just never been around a horse that has been so popular,” Matz said. “Even outside of the racing community … I took the kids to a Phillies game a while back and we were just sitting in the stands watching a ballgame on a Saturday afternoon. Three people I didn’t know just came up and asked how the horse was doing.”

and

“It would have been nice to see Barbaro run against Bernardini,” Matz said quietly. “It would have been good for racing. But I’m not going to be sour. How can I be sour. The horse has done a lot for me. Now we are going to try and do as much as we can for him.”

I had dinner at the Brette’s last night. They gave me a win picture from the Tropical Park Derby (How cool is that ?) I asked Peter how he looks, given all the concern of no recent pictures. Peter said while he has dropped a little weight (inevitable) his coat looks great (shiny) and his eye is bright, two very good signs he is doing well. We talked about many Barbaro things. I asked about the Florida Derby, and the stretch dual. Peter considered that was the making of the transition from boy to man for the horse. He said Edgar told him afterwards that it was very easy (despite what we were seeing). He did gallop out very strongly. Peter is visiting this morning, so will get an update after that visit

I have long used the term “brother in blood” or “sister in blood” for horses by the same sire. I have recently been criticized & told this is not the correct term, either, so maybe someone can clarify. The way I have used this is: “Broken Seal is a sister in blood to Tres Touche” meaning, both Broken Seal & Tres Touche are by Poles Apart, although out of different mares. As I said, I may be mis-using this. Anyway, my point is that there ARE breeding terms to designate relationships such as being by the same sire.

i saw michael on ESPN yesterday, shaking Bernardini’s trainers hand. Hes such a nice guy :slight_smile:

Thanks to Alex:

Update 342: Another comfortable night last night for Barbaro (saturday night). Peter just visited Bobby to report the news, and said that Bobby looked good. Peter’s tone was relatively upbeat!

A nice article in the UK Observer: The final furlong rehashes the Barbaro story. A good resource for those wanting to get a good handle on the entire set of events. You might also pick up one or two additional insights.

Thanks Heather for the lovely basket delivered to our barn by Kennett Florist. The goodies have been eagerly distributed between our barn and Michael Matz’s barn. Much appreciated. A belated thanks to Brandi for the popcorn. Sorry to say that stayed in our barn! As I was in the barn this morning (Tim called me to tell me there was a basket of goodies etc.) I got a chance to see Red Aspen. She looks good after her race yesterday, but tired. I also ran into Sheila Barndollar, who has been instrumental in putting together the raffle for a Mustang for Mike Rea. The drawing is tomorrow at Delaware Park, after the fourth race I think. Tim and I are planning on going. I hope to win! Let’s hope Mike continues his good progress.

I thank you Evalee, Virginia and Oakstable for your information.

From those and other information someone provided me some time back, I understand that environmentally/educationally a foal gets infinitely more from the dam than the sire, of course, and that quality mares, with a very limited number of foals possible in a lifetime, are harder come by than quality sires. The latter are bred widely to just about anybody with the stud fee, and therefore can and often are bred to inferior mares who produce progeny that often fall closer to the mean. In addition the owners of quality mares don’t waste a breeding cycle on some no-name sire who might just as well have been a random fence-jumper. This all makes sense and suggests that with no other information about individual horses or lines, on a statistical basis, the foals bred of a quality mare will turn out better on average than the foals of a quality sire.

That said, statistics are statistics and averages are averages.

Assuming that we are talking about breedings where the sires and dams involved are of comparable quality, I still don’t see why there is a formal distinction between the relationship between foals of different sires out of the same mare, and the foals by the same sire out of different mares. Genetically it appears to be a wash.

Perhaps the special circumstance (comparable quality on both sides) I’m talking about is uncommon enough that distinct terms arose in conversation, since the majority of foals don’t arise from lines where both the dam and the sire are of comparable quality and without checking pedigrees, nobody can readily tell, so without information to the contrary the different terminology just plays the averages.

Is this the situation, or is it something entirely different?

I have only heard the term “brothers in blood” for horses whose pedigrees match exactly past the parents’ generation. So if your colts are by the same stallion and out of full sisters they would be “brothers in blood”. Any combination that keeps the same grandparents would work.
If they share the same sire, they are usually referred to as being by that stallion or a (sire name) colt.
I still check this thread every day to check on Barbaro’s progress. Also am always relieved when the sports headlines doesnt include him! Are they still lowering his pain meds or it it stable now?
I also wonder if things go as well as possible, how long the casts stay on and he stays at the hospital (Tho the staff is getting very well fed for their efforts!)

Daily Racing Form (www.drf.com)

Matz keeping an eye on Barbaro

By DAVID GRENING
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. - For the first time in 10 weeks, trainer Michael Matz’s day did not include a visit to the George D. Widener Hospital at the New Bolton Center in Pennsylvania to visit Barbaro.That’s because Matz was in Saratoga on Saturday where he ran two horses on the card. Of course, Barbaro was the major topic of discussion whenever people came up to Matz on the backstretch Saturday morning. Barbaro remains in the intensive care unit at New Bolton, where he’s been since shattering his right hind leg in the early stages of the Preakness on May 20.
Matz did receive his daily 6:30 a.m. phone call from Dr. Dean Richardson, the chief of surgery at New Bolton who has played the biggest role in keeping Barbaro alive. Richardson told Matz that Barbaro had another good night Friday and that he continues to do as well as can be expected. It’s been just over two weeks since Barbaro was found to have laminitis, a potentially fatal hoof disease, in his left hind foot, and was given a “poor” diagnosis for survival.
On Friday, Matz drove to Saratoga, where his wife D.D. and their four children are spending the first couple of weeks of the meet and where Matz has seven horses stabled in Barn 81, including the promising 2-year-old colt Diamond Fever. Matz has been encouraged by the progress Barbaro has made.
“He’s been real good the last two weeks,” Matz said. “They started to see a little growth in the coronet band in the foundered foot and Dean was real happy with the X-rays of the leg that was broken.”
Matz, who planned to stay in Saratoga through Monday, said he has run through the gamut of emotions since Barbaro won the Kentucky Derby on May 6.
“At one point I thought I was going to win the Triple Crown with this horse, next time I was sort of resigned to the fact maybe it wasn’t supposed to be and he’s going to come through this and be a great stallion,” Matz said. “Then, when this other thing happened, I sort of resigned myself that they were going to put him down. Next morning I go and look, there he is bright-eyed. Every time I had myself resigned to something that was going to happen it never did. I don’t think physically I was getting tired, emotionally I never knew what to expect.”

Matz gave some insight into Barbaro’s daily routine.
“He goes in a sling at 8 or 9 o’clock in the morning,” Matz said. "He sits in the sling; he’s learned to use the sling. He stays there till 7 o’clock in the evening, they let him go, and he lies down.

“[When] he’s anxious to get out of the sling, he moves around a bit, he makes noise like he doesn’t like it any more. When he wants to get back in the sling he walks over to where the sling is. He’s pretty amazing.”

Matz continues to be amazed by the outpouring of support the public has shown, especially since the news broke about Barbaro having laminitis.
“When Dean announced that [Barbaro] had foundered, the next day there were over 35 baskets of carrots, and apples and flowers and mints at New Bolton center,” Matz said. "People are sending breakfast for New Bolton Center from a place in New York. . . . The cards keep coming; everyday I get cards. Everybody always asks about him.
“He’s fighting. If any horse can get through it, he can do it. That’s what I got to keep hoping and try to keep positive.”
Coincidentally, Matz was in Saratoga on the day Preakness winner Bernardini was running in the Jim Dandy.
“I’m anxious to see the race,” Matz said. “Bernardini’s a real nice horse. It sure would have been nice to see them run against each other; that’s never going to happen.”
Matz was asked if part of him was rooting for Bernardini to lose so that his chances of unseating Barbaro as 3-year-old champion would diminish.
“Right now, I’m more worried about saving his life instead of whether he’s 3-year-old champion,” he said.

Can’t believe anyone would ask such an obnoxious dough-brained question. :no:

My continued thanks to Alex & Tim~

Update 343: No new update this evening. I am assuming that is a good thing. Lori Keith rode her first winner at Philadelphia Park today, in the first race. She is a friend, and its great to see her getting going at Philly. She had ridden a winner at Penn, and actually went to Saratoga yesterday and was fourth. I asked her her perspective on Barbaro, she said:

My heart goes out to everyone involved. The horse is obviously strong, and he is hanging in there. It really makes you want to pull for him even more, he is trying.

Very true words. Congrats on the win, and looking forward to seeing you at Fair Hill breezing.
Adrienne caught up with Michael Matz yesterday at Saratoga. She had this to say (comment at 5:35 pm from update 27):

I was at Saratoga yesterday and actually had 2 michael signtings. The first was on a tour of the barns and track that was scheduled through the thoroughbred museum. Michael was with one of his children.

The second was in the paddock waiting for the post purade for the Jim Dandy. michael was walking into the paddock and I asked him how Barbaro was doing because I couldn’t check Tim and Alex’s web site as I was at Saratoga.I told him that I was one of those crazy and proud of it Barbaro fanatics. Michael said that he had a good night. I guess I heard the update as close as you can get from the horses mouth. He stopped for a second and I then asked him to thank Tim, Alex and the NBC staff for all of their wonderful work. I also told him that I hoped Barbaro enjoyed the carrots and the Delaware Park cap that I dropped off at the NBC 2 weeks ago. Finally he thanked me for the thoughts. Michael seems to be a really kind and understanding person. Barbaro you are really lucky!!!

Wm & Cl, NH provides us this new poem (5:33 pm updates 27)

Seabiscuit To Barbaro

GO BOY GO,
Rest if you must,
Lord heal our great Barbaro
who’s won a nation’s trust.

Heart only like one other,
Seabiscuit’s claim to fame-- There is but just another,
Barbaro’s his name.

Living far greater,
Than one could hope for–
His spirit, God is creator,
More than Life’s core!

He is destined for much more.
Strengthen him night and day–
What is needed to rest and snore.
Show his shining spirit today,
As a testament to hero lore!

You are the one to beat this,
With loving care and caress-- Believe Blessed with a kiss,
Lucky Swiftness your harness!

Make believers of doubters.
Great joy to be heard–
Help Campaign all ye shouters.
Help spread the good word!

Not just for Barbaro’s fight,
But for Mike Rea’s too-- May both heal day and night
Richly blessed by all of you!

Recovery’s road may be long,
But tender care is there too-- Keep sending those donations.
Each and everyone of you.

Lend a hand to a friend,
Help a neighbor in need.
Hold up another, don’t offend,
Is the word of this noble steed!

Contribute your time,
Your money, your hands–
Be it poetic rhyme.
Or prayers from all lands.

Expert minds can only wonder,
Seeing Barbaro’s will to survive–
Marvel at MIRACLES we’ll ponder,
Makes us thankful we are alive.

GO BARBARO GO,
Listen, rest, soak up our love!
You’ve grabbed us so–
Heaven’s gift to us from above.

Whispering your wise ways,
Bring commonsense to reign–
Uplifting our hopes these days,
Lead us safely back home again.

Forever thanks to Alex & Mike,
Allowing others a sharing mind–
For blessed news raising the spike,
Focused on good and bad left behind–
Go BARBARO Go – we all love you so!

I was at dinner tonight when our host (Sue) relayed a story from our local fair (which has been in town the last week). She was talking with the person responsible for the big cats, and they were planning to take a lioness to New Bolton to be spade. Sue mentioned how excited the person was at the thought that she might get a chance to see Bobby! (Not too likely, but its great to see how widespread Bobby Mania is!)
I am going to try to catch up with Tom Albertrani and get a quick interview on his Bobby perspective. He seems a really nice guy and I am sure has good things to say about Bobby. I have his phone number anyway!

:lol: :lol: Well, Susan P, I’d rather be riding :winkgrin: ! This is the fiirst thread I checked when I got back.

We met a couple last night at dinner. They’re not horse-y people, but when Barbaro came up in the converstion the husband said he’d cried when he watched the race and again when he heard the news of the laminitis. When he said that, he was my friend for life :slight_smile: It’s magical how Barbarbo brings people together :slight_smile: :slight_smile: .

Boing, boing, boing!

Glad to hear things seem to be continuing well…at least from the pages I glanced through (haven’t been on here since Weds sometime)

Thanks for the updates…hope to keep reading, but have my own “injury” to recover from and have not a whole lot of energy right now…jingles continue for Bobby

Wow, interesting reaction from non horsey people. Kind of expect there’s a fair number that would watch this race and cheer for Barbaro, he just had that kind of appeal right from the start. I hope you had a nice chat after you made that common denominator.

Early Monday~

Update 345: This morning’s update will again be delayed. Michael is still in Saratoga I think, returning today. I imagine I will know something by mid morning and be able to post then.
Update 344: We have seen Barbaro coverage in the UK, in New Zealand, and now Japan: Sympathy for a racehorse. This article talks about the rationale for the sympathy directed towards Barbaro as the world is seemingly full of other tragedies. The conclusion:

Barbarophilia is certainly not logical. And it is sentimental, outrageously so. But here’s a thought the anti-Barbaro crowd seems to have missed: Compassion isn’t an either-or proposition. Interest in the fate of an injured horse in Pennsylvania doesn’t preclude concern for terrified children in West Java or Baghdad or Tyre. Very likely, it’s the same warmhearted people caring about the lot of them. Even if it wasn’t, you can’t legislate the flow of sympathy.

The following article: Bernardini could be Horse of Year I hesitated to post. Not because I don’t admire another great racehorse, who won very easily over the weekend (although he really had nothing to beat), but because it was poorly written and factually inaccurate. Bobby was 6 for 6 going into the Preakness. I would also take issue with qualifying Albertrani’s tenure with Godolphin as a sentence but since I don’t know the guy (yet) I cannot confirm how much he enjoyed working with horses like Dubai Millenium.

I’d take that thought a step further

Yes, there’s a lot going on in the world to feel sympathy and compassion for–so much so, that many people become anesthetized and blind to it. Sometimes something like the Barbaro phenomenon can put us back in touch with our compassion, so that we open our eyes and start feeling again, and then doing, for all of the causes that are, in a human sense, more worthy (?) but less in the limelight.