A coworker has a dog that is crated while he sleeps. Her crate is located in a large closet, with very little ability to get stimulated, and yet she still randomly yips while he is trying to sleep. He walks her three to four miles a day (this is a 14 pound Papillon).
Suggestions for a anti-bark device or collar? I swore there was something that squirted like a citronella scent, but only finding sonic devices.
There are citronella bark collars, but I don’t know why anyone would think they are more humane for a dog. And, personally, I don’t think they are specific enough to help a dog learn. (E.g. why stop barking after the first spray? They already can’t smell anything by that time. I think they are marketed for people to think they are better for “sensitive” dogs, but I’m not sure exactly why. But here are some choices.
In that situation, he might find that just putting the crate where the dog can see him ( not in a closet) could improve the situation. Works for puppies IME.
Dog is lonely.
I do not understand why people make their dogs spend the night in another room. Why have a dog? The whole point is companionship.
Putting an anti-bark collar on a lonely dog is cruel. In my opinion.
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Dog is lonely.
I do not understand why people make their dogs spend the night in another room. Why have a dog? The whole point is companionship.
Putting an anti-bark collar on a lonely dog is cruel. In my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Well, it may be because she is lonely. Or, she could be a chronic barker that reacts to any sound. I am not against a bark collar to try to change the behavior of a chronic barker, but obviously I am assuming that is the real problem.
I have a barker (not really a chronic barker, but more so than my others); she is not lonely, but reactive. Thankfully, it’s not a nighttime issue, but I have considered a bark collar for her during the day. Something like coyotes calling can set her off for a good 20 minutes.
I am not against e collars either if used for a specific issue and by someone who understands how to train humanely with them. It is a skill to be learned.
But as suggested above, for a dog shut in a closet who barks a bit- I would first try putting the crate where the dog can see the person at night.
very simple. Costs nothing.Why not try it.
This is just something I learned training puppies.
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Well, it may be because she is lonely. Or, she could be a chronic barker that reacts to any sound. I am not against a bark collar to try to change the behavior of a chronic barker, but obviously I am assuming that is the real problem.
I have a barker (not really a chronic barker, but more so than my others); she is not lonely, but reactive. Thankfully, it’s not a nighttime issue, but I have considered a bark collar for her during the day. Something like coyotes calling can set her off for a good 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Do you lock her in a closet alone? No? Then it’s a completely different situation.
Sunbeam sonic egg. Only triggers when dog barks. Works on our yappy poodles, although I use it infrequently. Too many other sharp noises set it off.
As others have said, there are better alternatives in this case.
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Do you lock her in a closet alone? No? Then it’s a completely different situation.[/QUOTE]
I might, if she barked all night.
We don’t know why she is barking. It sounds like the owner tried to put her in a place where she would not be stimulated in order to keep her from barking.
But, that’s just my take on it. Without more information we are just guessing. A bark collar is not a horrible solution for a chronic barker. But obviously, if the only time the dog is barking is because it is lonely and locked in a closet - maybe a bark collar is the wrong solution.
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Sunbeam sonic egg. Only triggers when dog barks. Works on our yappy poodles, although I use it infrequently. Too many other sharp noises set it off.
As others have said, there are better alternatives in this case.[/QUOTE]
oops sorry I accidentally liked when wanted to quote.
I would not use this based on the reviews I read. Read the reviews.
As the above poster who suggested it said herself:
Too many other sharp noises set it off.
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I might, if she barked all night.
We don’t know why she is barking. It sounds like the owner tried to put her in a place where she would not be stimulated in order to keep her from barking.
But, that’s just my take on it. Without more information we are just guessing. A bark collar is not a horrible solution for a chronic barker. But obviously, if the only time the dog is barking is because it is lonely and locked in a closet - maybe a bark collar is the wrong solution.[/QUOTE]
read the OP again, The dog yips occasionally.
does not sound like what I would call a chronic barker.
She might be fine if she can see someone. worth a try
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read the OP again, The dog yips occasionally.
does not sound like what I would call a chronic barker.
She might be fine if she can see someone. worth a try[/QUOTE]
I can read. :rolleyes:
She said “Her crate is located in a large closet,with very little ability to get stimulated, and yet she still randomly yips while he is trying to sleep”
Which is why I thought the crate might be in the closet because the dog barks. Not the reason the dog barks.
Who knows?
If the dog is just lonely, of course I would not put a bark collar on her. My dogs all sleep in beds with humans. But if they barked all night long - that would have to change.
The walks are very good, but I wonder if that’s not enough mental stimulation for the dog. I would certainly consider adding in something for that.
I also would wonder if the random yips are actually vocalization while the dog is dreaming. In which case, I’d suggest ear plugs for the owner.
Agree with more mental stimulation during the day. Also, each time I’ve moved my male dogs were reactive at night to noises for the first month or so. The thing that’s really helped is one of those Honeywell air purifying machines in the bedroom. It’s the right amount of background noise to drown out the small stuff, and they are much quieter with it running. Plus it’s helpful for the air quality when I’ve got all those dogs, so it’s serving two purposes!
He just moved and that is when they started to crate. It’s a brand new house and she is pottying in the house. She was crated in the past with another dog also crated, once that dog passed they let her roam and she would crap in the house. So now she’s crated, she yips, and I checked and yes she is now in the closet because of the yipping. The next option is crated in the garage so I’m trying to help.
Is it ideal? No. But when people are home she is out, she plays outside, she gets walks. He isn’t a fan already of the dog but he does take very good care of her, has adjusted her diet, deals with allergies, walks her regularly, etc. He is a former K9 whose partner was the other dog mentioned above that retired with him. He needs to sleep. He is trying to find a better possible option than putting her in the garage.
The egg works, at least on our little dogs. It’s self correcting, but to be fair you can’t have it on during regular days. But at night, in a quiet house, it might work. I can’t turn ours on if people are banging around, TV is on loud, etc.
Luckily, I’m crate training my new GSD puppy, and it only took two nights. Only whines to go out and potty, goes right back to sleep.
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oops sorry I accidentally liked when wanted to quote.
I would not use this based on the reviews I read. Read the reviews.
As the above poster who suggested it said herself:[/QUOTE]
In a quiet house, it works great. My littlest poodle is overly sensitive to it, so I rarely leave it on. But in the throes of their ridiculous senseless shrieking- you bet I do. Shuts them up for a few hours.
Is the dog yipping during dreams, or yipping to get out? Cause a deterrent is not going to help the yipping during dreams, it will just correct her for something she cannot change so would be cruel to use and may cause her to have an inability to have fall into a proper sleep, which could result in a more stressed dog that it likely to have more behavioural issues.
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In that situation, he might find that just putting the crate where the dog can see him ( not in a closet) could improve the situation. Works for puppies IME.[/QUOTE]
This^^^^
Puppies are much quieter when they can see/be near their owners.
Have him put crate by bed.
She is not a puppy?
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