Belmont

[War_Admiral]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soup From the Store:
Come on. You can’t tell how a horse is going to run by whether he’s “cantering in place” or looking sad before the race<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Somewhat disagree… I’m only an armchair bettor but I usually don’t settle on my choice until I see the shots of them coming out of the barn and into the paddock. I pick whoever looks the fittest and the most up for it. Successfully picked quite a few Derby winners that way! Coming out of the barn I thought it really looked like Empire Maker’s day, much though I was hoping for Funny Cide.

Did they boo?? We were watching at the barn & shut it off right after the race so we could all get back to work. I’m sorry to hear it if they did. Two good horses tried their best, and Empire Maker is a WONDERFUL horse and deserves his moment in the sun!

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“It’s a thin line between a smart TB and a smart-@$$ TB.”

[Pol]

Awwww such a bummer…

[Glimmerglass]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buryinghill1:
… Bob Coglianese, took the picture during the stretch run of the 1983 Tremont Stakes at Belmont Park. The photo’s entitled “The Savage” …<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you, buryinghill1, for the link and reference!! It was going to kill me thinking of it tis afternoon. Gee, and people thought Mike Tyson was an original

[Anne_FS]

quote:

Originally posted by Heather:
I want to like Emprie Maker. I really do. He’s by one of my all time favorite stallions, Unbridled, and the stories of his mother are a total hoot. He’s beautiful and classy, and and . . . and I just can’t. Frankel is just such a loudmouthed classless boor.

That’s crazy talk. It’s like if you have a jerk boss people then would root against you because your boss was a jerk.

Just like in showing or breeding, horses or dogs, breed to the best and admire the best NO MATTER who owns, trains or handles it.

[Anne_FS]

I made my daughter groan when I asked how many papers will have the headline The Empire Strikes Back?

She said she hopes NONE.

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glimmerglass: It was going to kill me thinking of it tis afternoon. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh the pressure. I saved a life.

[leelee]

Great Race! It’s always so nerve-racking for me to watch em go on the muddy tracks! It did definitly look like santos was being taken for a bit of a ride in the beginning. Also–did anyone else hear about the crowd boo-ing when EM got in front of FC? Come on! have some class!! i mean EM wasnt far behind FC in the derby and didnt even race against FC in the preakness! So for that horse to win today MUST mean he is at least as good as FC! (JMHO) sorry for the rant…i guess boo-ing realy gets to me

[Anne_FS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daydream Believer:
Did anyone else notice what a lovely creature Ten Most Wanted is? He looks like a horse I’d want to go XC on. Uphill and Gorgeous!
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DDB, my daughter said that same thing!! And she said, now that’s a HORSE.

[Freebird]

Okay. SO I guess I DID manage to start a flame war here, but I truely didn’t mean to. As I said before, we need to ALL respect each others opinions - no matter the posters age, experience level, or knowelage. I think the thing that looses ones respect for a post though is not what is said but how it is said - which can be a tricky thing online. Some posts I think read to be pretty snotty and or harsh, when the auther really didn’t mean this at all. Of course there are some who do. At any rate, I guess we ALL need to be careful with what we say, and how we word things - myself included. Soup - I really didn’t mean to make this thread get so out of hand here, however when I posted my first post here on this thread, I was unaware of any Private messages you were receiving - I don’t send them myself, if it’s something that can’t be shared here on the BB, then I just refrain from saying it - I just wanted you to be aware that your post did come across as a bit harsh, especially to those new to racing. However that takes nothing away from the fact that you are a very smart young woman, who takes beautiful pictures, and on the norm, makes insightful and knowlagable posts about racing. As for your age, I really could care less, one way or the other. Thats one reason why I like posting on an online BB - it puts us all on one level, no matter the sex, age, race or economic background (though I tend to look like an idiot because I can’t spell ) I try to give everyone the same level of respect no matter who they are.

I hope we can ALL move on from hashing and rehashing all this crap, and move on to what is important here: The horses!!

~~Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either. Just pretty much leave me the hell alone.~~ Straight from the horse’s mouth ~~

[AshKnoll]

It looked to me that Funny Cide wasn’t going to win it before he went out on the track. He was the only horse cantering in place, and just looked unhappy. I kept telling my boyfriend I want him to win, but he isn’t going to. I wish I hadn’t been right.

Let me get this straight. We’re behind the rest of our class and we’re going to catch up to them by going slower than they are? Cuckoo. --Bart Simpson

[Anne_FS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dressager:
Also, Secretariat has always been my favorite, but someone once told me he wasn’t anything special. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who told you that? They’re nuts. Nuts and WRONG.

[sprite]

While not a Triple Crown winner, and therefore technically not in the same league as Affirmed, Seattle Slew etc…

being in the same league as Sunday Silence, Northern Dancer, and Silver Charm ain’t all bad

This week’s favorite CD: Mark Knopfler, “Sailing to Philadelphia”.

[Claudius]

Boy,do I think Barclay has been a great interview!!! Always honest…nothing glib about him…just a guy doing his best…trying…just LOVE him…and doesn’t he look like a great character actor in the movies??? I wish Frankel hadn’t needed to be so common in his comments…it just points out that all of racing folk aren’t as classy as Barclay Tagg!!!

[lilienhof]

Daydream believer,

no the one owner wasn’t watching from Sackets Harbor where I was. I was trying to say though that I met him when he came at the store. That’s all.

[Anne_FS]

OK, I believe you. It’s just that people said they taped the race and watched it while counting the changes and there were 13. Guess they should’ve watched closer!

[barbaraG]

Folks, IMHO we saw a Great Race today!!

Badmouthing Anyone is unsportsmanlike! Great Horses, Great Jockeys, And Everyone made it around safely! This is BarbaraG the GWV and professional worry-wart!

Funny Cide set this Whole Country on its ear!

Yes, I wouls have liked to see him Win. But it didn’t happen. It was Still a Great Race and Great Sport!

And the Breeders Cup is Coming!!

Cheers to the Little guys on the Bus!

And those bred to the Purple!

BarbaraG
GWV/and racing fan

[DMK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buryinghill1:
One of my alltime favorite racing photos…

Look at that crowd! And look at Big Red’s ears mashed back against his head - running all out…<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mine too! Guess that must be why I have it hanging on the wall, signed by Turcotte…

And I say Just Say NONONO to mandatory participation in all 3 races. Secretariat took on newcomers in Preakness, and other than Sham, EVERY other horse in the Belmont either skipped the Preakness or both TC races. This isn’t a new tactic, but still we have a standard by which all other horses are judged against eleven superior individuals.

Number 12 shouldn’t get it any easier.

As one of the commentators on TVG said last night (as regards any change in the TC format), “The Triple Crown is what defines the sport. Why would you want to cheapen that?”

Amen.

Call your village. Their idiot is missing…

[JAGold]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soup From the Store:
Well excuse me for being blunt.

Why get so fussy over something you know next to nothing about?
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Soup, I like you and I love your photographs, so please take this in the friendly spirit in which it is intended.

There is no reason to tell people that they don’t know what they are talking about. Everyone is entitled to an oppinion, and it is good for all horse sports when people who aren’t “insiders” become involved and care enough to have opinions. All horse sports need to expand their fan base in order to grow. And fans, by definition, are less involved than the principles. That’s why I smiled yesterday when I listened to the very self important middle aged man standing behind me at the Upperville Grand Prix tell his wife and daughter that Maclain Ward’s horse was a dangerous jumper… Hey, at least he dragged himself out to watch, bought a program, and is probably about to get talked into riding lessons for the kid.

You are getting a very special experience by working at the track – and you have a different sort of knowledge than many people posting here. One of the best ways that you can be an ambassador for the sport you clearly care very much about is to try to teach people, rather than point out what they don’t know. People will respect your knowledge more, and therefore learn more from you, if you share what you know kindly. This is true of all things in life. There is nothing wrong with correcting a mistake, but if you can do it gently (as in, “in racing, we use that term differently”) then people will be more likely to listen to you. And since the point of this BB is to share ideas, that makes you a more effective communicator.

Plus, it’s good to remember that you can learn from many different people with many different backgrounds. I was humbled by the father of a girl I used to ride with – I’d written him off as knowing nothing about horses and politely ignored his observations about the lame horse we were jogging up. After all, horses don’t go lame in their “back knee.” But this one was off in his hock, not up front as I was guessing…and the orthopedic surgeon who’d dropped his daughter off for a lesson spotted it correctly.

Anyways, I really don’t mean to preach and I do enjoy your posts.

And since I rarely post over here but did love watching the race – can someone tell me how flexible the trainer’s instructions or race plan typically are? How much is left up to the jockey’s discretion based on how the race shapes up? --Jess

[The_Fjord_Jockey]

Thanks to all who pulled me in when I ran off … I’m over-worked and cranky as all get out lately. The good news is M&M’s make a great icecream sandwich that cures all, creamy w/ a great cookie. Let’s hear it for DAIRY QUEEN that opened across road from Colonial Downs!!
Yes, I’m only 17 but I like the old adage of “keeping our horses in bad company & ourselves in w/ good”…so I work around some really great people and some top-notch horses: great teachers and mentors. Plus there are plenty of mess-up’s around to watch (hopefully from a distance!) & learn by as well. I notice age does not exactly guarantee smarts . My trainer is great about letting things roll off his back, I’m trying.
A lot of times I ask questions to either the trainers I work for, my mom, or her boyfriend (a track vet) to see if my opinion is close to the mark but most of the time I write from the hip.
On different aspects of horse sports themselves: I guess another way of explaining the differance between pleasure horses/show horses and race horses are to look at cars…there are lots of street varieties for all sorts of drivers but handling those and driving/working on a FORMULA ONE would point out a much larger gap. Apples & oranges.
There’s a ton to learn and self-help books are useless, it’s all handed down & learned on the spot. It’s amazing how one of these horses can expend the talents of a crew of people. They create an industry that thousands (at each track!) rely on to feed their families. And this industry NEEDS FANS, not just ourselves, to survive. It’s no joke that we need heroes and TC winners. And movies about heroes (SEABISCUIT!! WAHOO!) to peak outside interest…not someone (mia) who couldn’t let a few comments roll off her back on a public forum.
I think the public saw what happens when someone, like SANTOS, (who was carelessly accused of lighting up a horse) is thought to cheat. Racing is an incredibly monitored sport…it’s filmed, it’s samples are sent to the labs (not just the 1st & 2nd places but often a “special” is pulled on a horse that should have finished better than he did), the FEDS are involved (as it’s a gaming/wagered on sport),…there are often insiders who may spill some beans. It’s a lot cleaner than ever before w/ all sorts of measures protecting the betting public. Especially those big races.
Enough on this…have a few pics to post. Happy trails!

J
Licensed Fjord Jockey and collector of bobbleheads.

[doublete]

All I can say, being young, you have to watch things that you do and say. This is all a learning experience, and telling someone to not ‘take things so seriously’ is NOT a good thing.
‘Attitude problems’ have no place on a public forum- sorry, that’s just the way it is. Someone can read it wrong and get completely turned off for life- I think its very cool that the TC brought closet racing fans out of the wood work, so to speak.
The thing with the Internet- you may not have a second chance to apologize or explain your attitude. You HAVE to be mature, logical, and intelligent in your posts. And looking at other posts and saying “well someone else did it this way, so therefore I’m fine” is also not a good way of looking at it. If you want to look at it that way, then fine, but good luck- it won’t get you far.

So we have to wait till August 3rd to see them race again??? Or maybe even the 23rd???

Retraining and rehabbing Off Track TB’s.