I miss not having chickens & feeding a raw egg every day. I would never feed a store bought egg raw.
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That is why I feed raw.[/QUOTE]
I’ve been curious about this. what exactly do you feed them? Do you go to the store to buy raw meat like steaks or chicken? Do you feed them something else along with it like rice? How costly is it?
Don’t have dogs at this time, so asked my brother what he’s feeding. He has six and feeds them Orijen and “caviar” 
canned foods.
Going to check out Orijen for my dry kitty food.
Just Google raw dog food diet. There are 101 opinions on how to best do it. But some pretty basic concepts you can pick out by reading. There & pros & cons. Use your brain & pick out the very best of what you read to follow in your own dog feeding plan. You can go with as little or as much as you wish. Just aim for a nutritionally complete diet.
Good health to your dog!
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IMHO, Beneful is crap food, mycotoxins or not. However, I doubt that the manufacturer is actually trying to poison dogs.
And I have a colleague who refers to Blue Buffalo as “Blue Barfalo.”[/QUOTE]
I agree with the Vet! All those Purina and grocery store ones are bad!
Back to the Beneful, I would never feed my dogs food they color specifically to be appealing to the human eye.
I distinctly remember last decade, Beneful actually surveyed humans to find out what colors & shapes people liked. Trying to get us to associate the green food color with fresh peas. The orange with fresh carrots. I distinctly remember thinking at the time, who would fall for this?! Then instantly concluding-FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL!
I was really bowled over by this marketing/survey.
Of course the dogs like it, it is the equivalent of throwing your hands up and letting your toddler eat frosted flakes or poptarts exclusively because that is all they will eat. The main reason I have heard aside from the “It’s all the dog will eat” argument is the price. It is of course cheap because it is crap. But you have to feed it in huge amounts, often more than the dogs will eat so they are still not getting enough. Buying a grain free dog food is a good place to start as they need a lot less of it. I keep Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw on hand as a topper to encourage finicky dogs to eat.
Good luck to him, to prove the food is the culprit. Doubt he will be able to do that.
Yup, the better the dog food, the less the dogs will eat. I free feed, and experience has proved that to my own satisfaction.
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Of course the dogs like it, it is the equivalent of throwing your hands up and letting your toddler eat frosted flakes or poptarts exclusively because that is all they will eat. The main reason I have heard aside from the “It’s all the dog will eat” argument is the price. It is of course cheap because it is crap. But you have to feed it in huge amounts, often more than the dogs will eat so they are still not getting enough. Buying a grain free dog food is a good place to start as they need a lot less of it. I keep Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw on hand as a topper to encourage finicky dogs to eat.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed- it costs LESS to feed expensive food. My dogs get 1/2 cup a day of the good stuff vs almost 1.5 cups a day of crap.
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Of course the dogs like it, it is the equivalent of throwing your hands up and letting your toddler eat frosted flakes or poptarts exclusively because that is all they will eat. The main reason I have heard aside from the “It’s all the dog will eat” argument is the price. It is of course cheap because it is crap. But you have to feed it in huge amounts, often more than the dogs will eat so they are still not getting enough. Buying a grain free dog food is a good place to start as they need a lot less of it. I keep Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw on hand as a topper to encourage finicky dogs to eat.[/QUOTE]
Bingo! I’ve always compared cheap kibble to living on McDonalds. Sure, it tastes great and is cheap but you’ll be paying for it in doctor (vet) bills down the road.
I pay $50 for a 25lb bag of Farmina N/D. It lasts me almost 3 months which works out to be ~$16 per month. My dog is worth that to me.
http://www.chewy.com/dog/farmina-natural-delicious-wild-cod/dp/55911
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I feed Beneful and have no issues. I was feeding expensive dog food but they didn’t like it, and my GSD is very picky. Bene is the only one he gets excited about.[/QUOTE]
Probably all that sugar. It’s like kids & candy. I would pick pixie sticks over real food any day when I was a kid. Dog’s don’t know better, it is our responsibility to feed them what is healthful, since we cannot choose. I’m not singling you out, others posted this same thing. Just trying to help your dogs. I blame Beneful for my childhood dog’s early death. She was fed the right amount according to the bag and was overweight, had a bad coat, and died of an aggressive cancer. Dogs aren’t meant to eat sugary artificially dyed and flavored crunchy nuggets. Our dogs will eat poop, grapes, plastic, socks, chocolate, etc.- all things that aren’t good for them, which is proof to me that they don’t know better, and shouldn’t be choosing their food.
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I’ve been curious about this. what exactly do you feed them? Do you go to the store to buy raw meat like steaks or chicken? Do you feed them something else along with it like rice? How costly is it?[/QUOTE]
I am a prey model raw feeder, and I follow this guide. I get meats from places like Top Quality Dog Food (there are other sites to order from that will delivery to your door, but this one is near where I live so I drive to it), the grocery store, deer scraps from my family, and ethnic markets.
http://puppybutt.weebly.com/uploads/7/6/9/2/7692088/beginners_guide_to_prey_model_raw_rv.4.1.pdf
I’ve successfully fed this diet to an 8 week old puppy to its adult age with no ill effects, and to my two cats.
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http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/
A great link to the many dog foods out there.[/QUOTE]
My dogs food is “enthusiastically recommended”. I guess Merrick Classic is good. I was told it is good for picky eaters and my dog has been doing very well on it for over a year now.
For all the money these people spent on this lawyer they could have fed their 3 dogs properly. Or maybe only have 2 and fed them properly. Or something.
You can’t live on processed microwave dinners every day for every meal for the rest of your life. A lot of dogs live their whole lives on Ol Roy but a lot of dogs get cancer and giant softball sized tumors and renal failure and atrocious allergies. I cannot believe the allergy level in dogs these days. Seems everyone’s dog is allergic to something and seems every dog’s vet suspects the food.
If you can afford to shop at a grocery store and buy name brand anything, you can afford to feed your dog a decent food. And it won’t come from said grocery store. If you have difficulty feeding yourself and your family, I understand Rover getting Ol Roy (or Beneful).
I was feeding raw but after one vomit of a broken chicken bone I was eeked out enough to slowly move away from that. I don’t want to hurt my dogs by trying to feed them better. Raw is difficult with small dogs. Larger dogs handle it fine but 25lb dogs are tricky. Finding proper sized parts is difficult and they ended up on chicken necks all the time. Drumsticks resulted in the vomiting episode. I couldn’t find anything else of the right cut size/bone type unless I started getting into the $4/lb market, which is more then I spend on myself per pound for meat. Plus, variety is key with raw diet and man (nor dog) can not live on chicken alone.
But back to the OP: I agree with whoever said; everyone is free to read the ingredient label and make a better choice. However, the lawsuit did bring attention to the issue and maybe will inspire some people to actually read the ingredient label and think about it. Cereal sprayed with animal fat. Mmmm.
“I am a prey model raw feeder”
As I warned you, there are 101 belief models in regard to feeding raw. Not knocking the above model. (I did not even bother to read their prey model.)
Just saying there are many, many different beliefs on how to best feed raw, or semi raw, & even simple home cooked diets.
Read, read, read.
Decide what is best for you, your pocket book, & most of all your dog.
Good luck!
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Of course the dogs like it, it is the equivalent of throwing your hands up and letting your toddler eat frosted flakes or poptarts exclusively because that is all they will eat. The main reason I have heard aside from the “It’s all the dog will eat” argument is the price. It is of course cheap because it is crap. But you have to feed it in huge amounts, often more than the dogs will eat so they are still not getting enough. Buying a grain free dog food is a good place to start as they need a lot less of it. I keep Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw on hand as a topper to encourage finicky dogs to eat.[/QUOTE]
I logged on just to “like” this post.
Kind of strikes my funny bone that there are pages and pages of a thread insisting that children should be forced to eat what is “best” for them, but somehow old Rover is qualified to decide between eating Mars bars for dinner every night vs real food. (I’ll have this same rant with regard to many horse feeds, too, btw!)
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Don’t have dogs at this time, so asked my brother what he’s feeding. He has six and feeds them Orijen and “caviar” canned foods.
Going to check out Orijen for my dry kitty food.[/QUOTE]
Orijen and Acana are the best!!
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Orijen and Acana are the best!![/QUOTE]
Orijen was a great food for a GSD that had severe allergies. I have a dobie on Arcana Pacifica. The Orijen was too rich for her. Both foods made by the same Canadian co.
