I’m in Canada and use Stable Masters Choice all Natural Vit E. 1 scoop is 1/2 tsp and contains 1000 iu. Based on 1 scoop daily its a 3 month supply for 70.00-Canadian!
Natural is always more bioavailable than synthetic E. You can get roughly the same effective results feeding synthetic if you feed about 1/3 more, but then that usually eats up the cost savings so you might as well feed natural.
Water-soluble forms have proven to raise serum levels faster than regular d-alpha-tocopherol. Sometimes you need the level raised fast because it’s just so low. Sometimes it’s low enough you just can’t get it raised fast enough without waiting months and months and months. For those cases, it’s cheaper to use the w-s versions, rather than gobs and gobs of regular, until things are stable, then you can usually switch.
Thoughts on this? https://www.horseguard.com/shop/store/vitamin-ingredient/flax-products/flaxen-eas-e-guard/
This is the same as any other d-alpha-tocopheryl acetate supplement with a tiny amount of flax. You’re at $0.625 per 1000iu here which is more than even the hot name brands like Elevate.
What do you like about this supplement in particular versus the others in this thread?
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So all natural ones could be dosed the same irrespective of format? Or not? (Putting aside the speed that serum levels are raised, and speaking only to the dosage)
:yes: The only difference will be serving size, based on what else is in the product.
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OK I’ve been updating this spreadsheet. It has three sheets - natural, synthetic and a potency chart by type.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HyzecjwZzxHj3keS5_fQ3aYEvXDU9IBxb5smQAYfslA/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to check my math and add new brands to the correct sheet. Some prices may still be old. But in overview, it can be cheaper to feed synthetic vitamin E at double the rate of natural after all. Are these supps checked for potency by an independent governing body? Are they my rear! And is shipping included? No. I don’t know where you live. So good luck with all that. It’s also worth noting that I will never forgive San Juan Ranch / Santa Cruz Animal Health for their hideous animal abuse failings, so that is noted in the sheet.
For Puritan’s pride, the .1495 is per 1000IU capsule, while I assume all the others with 3-4 0s after the decimal are a $ per 1 IU.
TBH, cost per 1000IU, or even 500IU, is more useful since supplementation is on those levels, not single or double digit IUs.
UltraCruz Natural E is listed at .00012318 per IU for the .75lb container, but 5000x that is .615, not .99. It’s listed at .00011054/IU for the 4lb, which is .5527 for 5000IU, not .76
Did you set up formulas to do the math or did you do them manually?
Some have formulas, but someone else added the cost per IU column (which doesn’t calculate because products come in capsules, oz, ml, g etc and I can’t figure out how to get around that) as well as other data - anyone can edit it.
Which is a bit of a problem really - I want people to contribute (I don’t even own a horse right now…) but it means it might be less accurate. Anyway fixing it now.
Oh, gotcha.
Cost per 1000IU (more helpful. to me anyway, as it reduces the number of 0s :lol: and is a more real-world application) is
(cost/container) / (total IU in the contain / 1000)
Then you don’t need to worry about the form, that’s just a note for someone who wants liquid or pellets and not powder
So of the UltraCruz is $137.95 for 1,248,000 total IU in 4lb, that’s $137.95 for 1,248 1000IU which is $.11/1000IU
You’d need a column for the total IU count for the whole container which would likely need to be hand calculated, unless you have both a number of servings, and the number of IU in that serving, and multiply the 2
Yeah I can do that - the number of servings listed by companies isnt usually for 5000IU or even 10kIU, so I have to hand calculate that anyway. :winkgrin:
OK I have been working away to get the spreadsheet more automated. I have NOT checked all the current prices on supps on the sheets, but some of them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HyzecjwZzxHj3keS5_fQ3aYEvXDU9IBxb5smQAYfslA/edit?usp=sharing
Does it work?
Excel allows you to lock cells with stuff you don’t want people fiddling with. Does google sheets allow the same thing? Might be a good idea to protect your formulas!
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OMG you’re a genius. I did a “protect range” on some columns that calculate automatically. Hope that works…
Update: Well I can prevent people messing with the data in those columns but I can’t let them add new products, so that doesn’t work. Gah.
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@Xanthoria thanks for the spreadsheet! I just started KPP Elevate powder, but it looks like Santa Cruz would be cheaper per IU, so I’ll switch to that once the Elevate runs out. Gotta save those $$$!
Boooo. So, in excel, you can lock the whole sheet, or you can lock specific cells. No option like that in google? 
Oh, okay, it looks a lot like how excel works. Did you select the cells you want to protect, or the whole sheet?
https://spreadsheetpoint.com/lock-cells-in-google-sheets/
It looks like you can protect the formula columns and nothing else.
I can poke around with it later today and see if it’ll work? I have a LOT of excel experience, but haven’t really worked with the google stuff.
I protected the formula columns, then changed it to just giving a warning if people try to edit. And read a bit online about people having trouble with it in Sheets which is a pale version of real Excel. Gah.
Anyone better at ferreting out information know if Santa Cruz has straightened their animal welfare act up?
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/05/23/trouble-at-santa-cruz-biotechnology
That company had and has apparently many years of abuse allegations, were and are renowned for poor product, and finally got the largest fine in USDA history, along with getting their polyclonal antibody dealer license revoked, in 2016. It’s my opinion that with such a history and the volume of charges against them, and nothing I can find about a change in the leadership that allowed that to happen, it’s unlikely they instantly cleaned up their act and are now clean-nosed. Their business is also in animal testing/antibody production, vs companies that just sell supplements, which is something I have very mixed feelings about.
So, overall they are a hard no from me. I would rather spend a few pennies more elsewhere than risk supporting animal abuse.
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I don’t think they’re still involved in any animal research or antibody production:
“The settlement also permanently revokes Santa Cruz Biotech’s government licence to sell, buy, trade or import animals. And it requires the company to cancel its registration to operate as a research facility that uses animals.”
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