Boarder pulled my horse's mane

It is an issue when horses have Cushings or food allergies.

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Aw heck you guys!

There are groups of people out there who rape and murder other people so we better plan for that possibility and explicitly tell everyone we meet not to murder or rape us, just so we don’t have a communication error :wink:

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Right, because otherwise we are just asking for it. :wink:

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Your horse is beautiful! :heart_eyes:

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Absolutely. Personally I would always make the staff aware of that, because I’ve seen barns do this before - especially when horses had been in due to weather. I understand as in a lot of barns do things such as discipline or reward to ensure that the staff is safe. In the event of a food issue or an owner that just doesn’t want treats given, a solution can be reached. I was just saying that I wouldn’t assume that barn workers were never going to give treats without checking. That’s just an experience thing from being at barns. Honestly, when I wanted to make sure my horse didn’t have treats due to health issues, I made a sign for his door. You just never know. I’ve seen more than one barn owner have to talk to neighborhood kids for giving treats.

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This is where a town crier permanently posted at your farm gate comes in handy. “Hear ye, hear ye, none of you f@ckers shalt touch the horses that resideth within these boundaries. Furthermore, even if said horses stretch their necks over the boundary fencing, thou shalt not cutteth their manes. Hear ye, hear ye!”

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:rofl:

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I’m beginning to think crying “youse are cyber bullying” is the new Godwin’s Law of the interwebz.

“When everyone thinks of you as an idiot, it is better to walk away than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

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The difference is that the coffee was given to her to drink. Nobody gave the horse to this person to pull the mane.

What kind of person needs explicit instructions not to work with someone else’s property unless asked to? I don’t just decide to go over to my neighbors and groom their animals without permission… ever. I would never think of handling anyone else’s horse unless it were part of my agreed upon duty to do so or in an emergency situation where not doing something might harm the horse.

The only miscommunication is the person that cut the mane assuming she didn’t need permission to do so, and it is completely her fault for not doing so. Nobody should have to tell anyone that they don’t want changes made to their animal without permission.

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So this has been explained a few hundred times, along with a few hundred great examples and analogous situations, yet this “expert” in communicating still pretends not to understand. IMHO, it’s time to just let her fade away.

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You win the internet today

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I let several neighbors pet my dog the other day. Do I have to now explicitly tell each one of them that they are not allowed to come into my yard and take my dog out for a walk without clearing it with me first? Or clip my dog (even though it is summer)? Or do anything else with my dog? Should I put up signs on the fence to that effect? Do I need to place an announcement in the neighborhood newspaper/emagazine that my dog is off limits? Oh, what to do? I am so confused.

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OMG, :joy:

Yes lengthwise is correct.

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I have a horse with a major scar on his pastern because he hooked his foot over a high tensile wire fence and pulled the strand off four posts before getting free of it. The location suggested that residents off the neighbouring subdivision were feeding the horses over the fence and mine pawed to get their attention. Thankfully it was smooth wire. It still took almost four months to heal up. Twenty years later I still have to scrape excess tissue off it and watch that his boot doesn’t rub it raw.

He did stop pawing for attention after that. It’s not a training method I recommend though. :wink:

Both my horses have food restrictions and asking about the barn culture around giving other horses anything is part of scoping out a new barn.

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It’s because there’s expected behaviour for people in society and the ‘default action’ is to not fuck with other people’s things unless expressly permitted.
Think of it as a universal rule that doesn’t have to be communicated, it just is. There’s no way to put up signs covering every possible interaction so the socially-accepted DEFAULT ACTION is to NOT do those things.
Even if OP had spoken to the boarder and told her in advance not to cut trigger’s hair… technically dying the hair wasn’t included as part of that discussion and because it wasn’t ruled out, it must therefore be in as a possibility?

No. Life doesn’t work like that and for people who don’t recognise those things rightly as social faux-pas well we have a diagnosis for that, they’re probably on the spectrum

As was already covered, that was a reasonable lawsuit. The coffee wasn’t just “that hot”, it was too hot for anyone to be able to drink and mcdonalds knew it. The coffee melted her labia and fused it to her leg. There are pictures available if you google ‘Liebeck’ and want to take a look at the woman you just tried to mock for not realising coffee is hot.

Because you’re wrong and seem unwilling to admit you were wrong. Tbh your best action is probably to eat humble pie.

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My point that’s clearly being missed is the fact that everyone ASSUMES (key word here) that everyone has to follow the unwritten rule to not mess with other peoples stuff.

You can’t run around thinking that everyone in society functions the same way bc they don’t. You have to communicate. You may be lucky if you’ve been dealing with the same people for decades that this rule runs true, but that’s not always the case because of this scenario.

Examples such as someone coming on the property and messing with said property have written laws that they have to abide by. When you’ve got a community area and there hasn’t been any written agreements to not fool with other peoples stuff, then it falls on the individual(s) to make people aware of what is or is not allowed. If you’ve given someone permission to use/interact with something once then they will (not always) ASSUME that it’s ok to come back to that item in question unless explicitly stated otherwise.

That is absolute nonsense and you know it. Is that how you were raised? Is that how you behave in the barn where you board your “rabian”? Because if you were in my barn, you’d be kicked out post haste, and I’d take great pleasure in doing it. No one EVER has to communicate that touching someone else’s things without permission is not allowed. EVER. Only a child would believe otherwise. What is wrong with you?

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Someone else’s horse is not common property. ASSUMING it’s ok to interact with someone else’s horse is moronic and shows a deep misunderstanding of basic civility. Attempting to argue those facts is extremely juvenile and shows a lack of the ability to understand basic concepts of boundaries and ownership.

Learn to recognize that it is your responsibility to respect other people’s boundaries before you get yourself into hot water doing something even more stupid than giving someone else’s horse an unwelcome makeover.

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Well yes, that’s really how it works, in any group of people, because otherwise we can’t function. A barn works like that, there are unwritten rules that people largely follow.

I guess if you don’t get that, then you are one of those that I wouldn’t want to board with, because you would be messing with my stuff,

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