aaaand we’re back with the cryptic garbage.
Is this your horse or not? If yes, why did you allow all this to happen to him? I’m sure any lease you had allowed you to take the horse back if concerned about his welfare. If not, then shame on you for not writing that in.
If not your horse, stay out of it.
What’s with the bullying?
You are reading a whole new scenario into this post. I have never had this happen before on COTH. I hope you all feel really good kicking someone who trusts and respects the forum.
It’s just crazy.
You know what, this is beneath respect, and anything you post will be promptly ignored.
Back to focusing … low angles really bother this horse. Seeking care can lead to being all over the place, including bridle lameness. However, history has shown, there is a repeatable problem with lameness, but starting over in a new state with a new vet is hard when they don’t nerve block, and the farrier cuts the hooves down. The history is to provide, without running off the page, all the things that educated COTH members may or will pick up on. I have owned this very smart and talented horse for seven years now, and would like to press on with his education. I don’t whip him, that happened at the rehab hospital. This is not good because all of the push him through it failed through previous experience. i need to understand why vets don’t dig deep early. Why do they not take into account the previous treatment history and imaging? I am really puzzled. In the Air Force, we logged all troubleshooting and repair, especially for complex or intermittent problems. Maybe I am must used to a different process. 
Just to remind everyone…
It looks to me like what the OP is saying is: 1) they have gone through a lot to help this horse, 2) the horse was recently sent to rehab, 3) in rehab the horse lost a shoe, but was still worked, 4) the horse was harmed by the shoeless work, 5) the rehab rider had to whip the horse, 6) the OP brought the horse home, and 7) the rehab rider posted a simple question.
Then some posters here felt that it was necessary to insult the OP. Apparently there are some people here that can be very mean and uncaring.
Context - it was season, and we are low on the totem pile. Vet has Olympic riders flying in from across the country and brokers six figure horses from Europe. He was just too busy but liked us a lot. Really helped, especially with shoeing! Frustrating because we had the horse on stall rest not knowing the extent of the injury. All was remedied when we trailered to awesome vet clinic, and they did an awesome job. Old state before moving.
Yes. Thanks.
What is your point? The OP’s horse was hurt, and reached out to the vet. Then after receiving no help from the vet, started a commonly used protocol to treat the horse, and finally was concerned that the protocol had the possibility to cause GI upset.
Jumperman, are you a pilot?
And I graduated with honors from college.
SporthorseFun, no I am a Flight Test Engineer.
I say time for a new vet and new farrier, pronto. I have no idea where you are, but can you haul to a university vet clinic if need be? IME, any vet worth their salt is going to listen to you and do nerve blocks!
Picking thru what you’ve said, yes absolutely low/negative angles are going to cause/exacerbate problems. No question about it. Because of the changes the new farrier made I’d be suspicious this horses soundness issues have been reaggravated and possibly made worse. If he were mine I’d be taking him home and doing nothing until I found competent vet/farrier care.
Note also that jumperman and sporthorsefun often post in the same threads. About the same topics. Including the lameness locator. Edit: and one thread about a new trailer that needs a camera, and less than a week later the other one posts a thread asking about trailer cameras.
Strange that here they would pretend not to know one another… at least don’t make it so blazingly obvious.
Edit final: Proof that they’re either the same person or know one another is in another post below. Why, outside of desperation, would someone need or want an alter, I will never know.
I think so too. I have two schools in mind with really good large animal hospitals and an expertise in lameness. I finally have the farrier piece, which makes it sad that he lost the supportive shoe and got worked. I don’t know if they forgot he had no shoe on that leg or what happened. But goodness, three days of work, and heavy work. Then he didn’t want to carry himself anymore. I just feel for this horse. Time to reset, as you have suggested. Thank you so much.
Finally, after reading through all the past threads re: this horse -
Retire him. You’ve put him through enough. At this point it’s about you, not him. He needs a grassy field with some friends, with no more poking and prodding. You tried everything, you tried your best. He’s broken. Sometimes you can’t fix that. Let him just be a horse.
I’d recommend you stop trusting professionals with this horse. Be at every single appointment and ask questions/repeat history until you are satisfied with the plan/proposed diagnostic/proposed treatment. Horses aren’t belligerent out of the blue or for fun. They have a reason. This horse has been through a lot, and if you aren’t ready to retire him you’ll need to be really on top of how he’s feeling every single day.
It’s a lot easier to keep a story straight when you’re telling the truth.
This thread started by “JumperMan”:
Using a cropped photo from this post by “Sporthorsefun”:
And earlier in this thread where they pretend not to know each other (or be the same person):
Was fibrotic myopathy ever discussed?
How did the UFP diagnosis arise from slipping?
what did this riding consist of?
ridden and sound, or pasture and sound?
very common
who gave that diagnosis?
That “rehab” place sounds horrible
If you don’t know where to pinpoint things, you can’t just go in and do ALL the diagnostic work, especially since many things you find as 'wrong" may be symptoms, not causes. But I still have questions on all the diagnoses
sent to whom?
Any competent general vet should be able to do nerve blocking.
they bother all horses, some just don’t tolerate it as well as others, which means those others may allow things to get to a bad enough point that they “suddenly” explode and become angry, all the while the owner/rider/trainer has missed every little warning signal along the way
What does “cuts the hooves down” really mean? If feet were long to begin with, getting them properly short can look terrifyingly short to someone who hasn’t seen properly short feet.
did you ask for blocking? Did you ask why they felt it wasn’t necessary?
Because not all vets are good? Because the bottom of the class still gets their DVM? Because some vets suck as lameness situations? You seem to want All The Things done right from the start, but that’s a very, very hard way to approach things.
Were you offered more diagnostics?
Did you ASK for more diagnostics?
What other diagnostics do you feel should have been done right from the start?
Did you get your horse’s records sent to the new vet(s)?
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