I haven’t looked at a rule book in years, and I could be way off base here, but I thought you had to forefit five points off of your test if you opted for having it called out.
Maybe my brain just has a crossed wire.
Wanting a caller for my tests will just be for the first couple of shows. I haven’t shown in anything since I was 25 – almost 25 years ago. Nerves!
Okay, stupid question – are the tests all the same? What I mean is, in reining there are (or were) 11 patterns and the judge could call out for the class to do reining pattern 8 or whatever number floated their boat. Is that how this works? Or is the pattern “made up” by the judge the day of the show or something?
Eileen
The tests are already in existence. You can find copies of them at the top of this thread. There is a “sticky note” for a “where can I find tests?” thread. The tests even have a diagram of the arena and the letters !
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The tests are already in existence. You can find copies of them at the top of this thread. There is a “sticky note” for a “where can I find tests?” thread. The tests even have a diagram of the arena and the letters ![/QUOTE]
Ooooooookay. I was under the impression that they changed from show to show, like jumper and hunter stuff. That didn’t make sense to me, but you never know. I thought the linked tests were practice tests or something.
That changes things and makes it easier!
Thanks!
Eileen
One set of tests is out there at any given time. They are updated every couple years just so people don’t go mad from monotony.
Everyone in the USA and Canada uses the same tests for dressage at any recognized show in the USA or Canada (Canada opted to use USA tests).
Each nation creates their own national (lower level) tests and everyone competing in recognized shows in each country uses the same tests for ‘national levels’ .
Then the higher level tests are defined by the FEI (International Equestrian Federation). That is Prix St Georges, Intermediare 1, intermediare 2, and several grand prix tests, etc.
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I haven’t looked at a rule book in years, and I could be way off base here, but I thought you had to forefit five points off of your test if you opted for having it called out.
Maybe my brain just has a crossed wire.[/QUOTE]
No points taken off for calling the tests. Contrary to the common believe, judges do not even give any br. points for NOT calling the tests. If you have a choice of going off-course or calling a test - save your money and call the test. Judges really don’t like when somebody goes off course - it disrupts the show flow and show would be running late b/ of that.
I’ve not had any channel conflicts, but I don’t know if others were using walkie-talkies or not at the shows where I was announcing. There are multiple channels you can use, so just pick one that nobody else seems to be using!
You can use the walkie-talkies at the warm up, but not reading the test - that is illegal according to the USEF Rules. You have to call out loud the test so judge can hear it as well - that is for prevention of coaching during the tests.
I was just given a link by PiaffePlease to the rule book that says it is NOT illegal:
http://www.usef.org/documents/ruleBook/2008/08-DR.pdf
page 22. section 4 e
4 e. “Riders with hearing impairment may have a reader using sign language or use radio communication.”
Where does it say only in the warm up ring? I don’t see that.
You have to call out loud the test so judge can hear it as well - that is for prevention of coaching during the tests.
There are different types of deafness and just turning up the volume does != hearing what is being said.
Without an electronic aid, I have to LIP READ and that means being close enough to see the person’s lips.
Eileen
It is NOT illegal - but pay attention to the part that you must get a Federation Dispensation Certificate from USEF first! (Make sure you apply to the USEF early enough to get it processed by the time of your show.)
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It is NOT illegal - but pay attention to the part that you must get a Federation Dispensation Certificate from USEF first! (Make sure you apply to the USEF early enough to get it processed by the time of your show.)[/QUOTE]
Most likely I’ll have to get a USA Dr.'s certificate, bleh. I’ve only been once since I moved to the states ~15 years ago.
Well, I’ve got at least a year to worry 'bout that 
Not showing my girl until we are both ready and I’ve trailered her to a few shows just to watch.
Thanks to all for answering my questions,
Eileen
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4 e. “Riders with hearing impairment may have a reader using sign language or use radio communication.”[/QUOTE]
Roan, sorry I didn’t see that you have hearing impairment.
Roan, sorry I didn’t see that you are death.
Q.T.F.!!!
I ain’t dead yet!!! HAH!
Nah, s’kay. I get a little worked up about it sometimes and I apologize. It’s just tiresome to have to 'splain it all the time.
If you met me in person you’d probably never realize I don’t hear very well at all. I’ve only 25% hearing left in my right ear and 15% in my left ear. I don’t wear hearing aids – hate 'em! I DO rock at reading lips and body language, though, and the stuff I ‘mis-hear’ is HILARIOUS! I often repeat it just for yuks
Eileen
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“HALT at A”
Nope. Unless there has been a monumental rule change recently, the reader can’t read that. he can only read EXACTLY what is written in the test book. EXACTLY. He cannot change the order or wording at all from what’s in the book. If he does change the wording and not read it EXACTLY the way it is, he can get the rider disqualified. Ask me how I know, LOL.
It’s actually ‘A…halt, five seconds’ or whatever is written in the book. The reader also is only allowed to stand in a certain place.[/QUOTE]
Slick, don’t be such a butt. I certainly could have dug out a test, written the EXACT words for that movement, emphasizing the words “HALT” and “A”, which is what my trainer enunciates extra loudly, but chose to do the shorthand version. It would appear that everyone else understood my drift, but thanks for pointing out the obvious. Now we are all clear that above all else, YOU know the rules.
eta: And before you say “i just wanted to make sure everyone understood you can’t ad lib out there and must read verbatim”. You could have said–“adding your own emphasis is fine, just make sure your reader knows to read verbatim”. But, alas, in your own words— Nope. You had to put in a dig.
If I am having a particularly hard warm-up at a recognized show I have one of my trainers read my tests even though I know them. Sometimes it just helps me concentrate on my riding instead of where I am going. :lol:
