Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

Thank you @SuzieQNutter @ParadoxFarm @ratchet

It is very difficult emotionally to leave a city you’ve grew up in and start all over, i wonder if it will even hit me harder later. Right now, the utmost important thing is to get Toby (my cat) over as painless , stressless as possible and safe travel for my DH who’s driving the stuff we will need in our temporary housing.

My barn is not fancy, but the trainers are excellent. One of them really really got me to realize how much pulling i’ve been doing! When i was riding with mean trainer, i would watch jumper videos and see a ton of rider land and pull between fences, so i sorta subcontiously copy that, for absolutely no reason. When in doubt, PULL was my mantra. I also ride with really bad posture, forever perching forward, with my horse going like a giraffe most of the time. I think i’m really starting to learn the baby beginning of dressage here. Also on the landing side, i’m learning not to immediately pull back but to go with him. This is truly an amazing learning experience !

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We need an update!! :blush:

Faye, how did you learn not to pull?

@ParadoxFarm
My trainer yelling at me week after week, don’t pull, why are you pulling? He does not deserve this! LOL

Okay, so the light bulb moment was holding the reins like driving reins with a crop and push hand forward and STAY THERE no matter what. Canter around in that and over jump made me realize how much i was pulling. She also always have us practice our hands forward, and leg on to push horse into the bit. Her lessons are tough but i learn so much.

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Ah that was her downfall @Faye , plus you have heard me say on here we never pull back. We hold and give but do not pull back, unless you are following the number one rule that you don’t fall off.

If I say don’t think of a black cat what do you have in your mind. A black cat. The mind does not pick up the negative word - so by telling you, don’t pull back, your trainer was telling you to pull back.

We used to jump our horses over a double with aeroplane arms. Does anyone do that anymore?

@ParadoxFarm
Hi! Wasn’t sure what to update so I went back to my original post to see where I was there…ironically, Im in the same yet totally different place hahaha.
Back then I had a new TB that I was working with, and doubting my abilities, because I’d been riding the same pony for years.
Well, not long after that I had to have an open abdominal surgery and trying to handle the TB on the farm by myself was impossible, so I gave the horse back to the previous owner. It sucked but was best for me at the time. My pony and mini were easy to deal with so they stayed.
For the next 10 years I just rode my pony, Lucky, and he was the perfect thing for me to ride on and off through more surgeries, personal stuff with my family, etc. Same guy whether I rode every day or every month.
Fast forward to last year, we sold our farm and moved down the road to a house on 5 acres, a ranch (necessary due to the medical stuff) and last year built a barn and pastures. Moved Lucky, my daughter’s pony, and our (new) mini home. Daughter outgrows her pony, we lease her out, and I bought a TB for me, daughter moves up to my pony. TB is 4, she’s a bit of an anxious thing, so for the last few months just basically doing nothing with her. Bareback strolls through the pasture (snow), trailering out as much as we can, and hopefully once this snow melts I can get her out again.

So here I am, back with another TB, and feeling like I am not good enough, feeling like I can handle it and I want to do this, all the emotions!

I’ll have to go back a few pages and catch up!

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@SuzieQNutter actually I needed that reminder because I didn’t realize I was pulling , and constantly pulling! So that worked for me!

We still do arms out jumps , but one will need a safe, trust worthy horse. Mine is a little green and sensitive , I think I will lose my mind :rofl:

@Faye don’t worry, it is amazing how quickly they go from green and know nothing to going really well. It is us riders who take years.

@spacytracy we see your name every time your thread is in the list. You are sooo famous!

I have had tb’s all my life. It has been a long learning curve with Stars with the more woah than go. I have so much to tell about the last week with him. But I have to go and work him now and then go to work.

So instead I will leave you with this that I typed out for another thread.

I am tired. I have been up to midnight working and up for breakfast at 5am, riding at 6am and leave for work for first job at 7am.

I am really really tired but my mind is still going at a million miles an hour.

So I step into the tack shed and walk 4 steps. In that time my mind has thought.

Typical the permoxin bucket is empty. It was full when I left 3 days ago, but I come home and it is empty. Chalk that up to the same category as men and not changing the toilet roll and sigh the saddle blanket is on the step ladder when I have told him to place it upside down on the saddle and why is there only one saddle blanket? Where is the other saddle blanket? What has he done with that? It should be upside down on my saddle…where is my saddle? What the h#### has he done with my saddle? He has no reason to take my saddle…

I take back the 3 steps and look outside. Oh that is right I have already put on the saddle blanket and saddle. I came in for the bridle!

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@SuzieQNutter hope you get a chance for some rest soon!

@spacytracy, I feel like I’ve met a celebrity! How cool to have the OG re-rider pop in. :grin:

@ratchet, your high falutin’ lesson pony sounds like a blast! So glad you’re enjoying yourself on him.

@Faye, best of luck with your move. Putting down roots in a new place take time and can bring up all the feels. But I hope you find your happy as you get settled.

@SuzieQNutter, I’m exhausted just reading your daily schedule! (And also a little jealous – I sort of miss the days of having a full and busy life. This pandemic sucks.)

Me, I’m in a frustrated pickle. The eventing barn where I had been lessoning has suspended their adult lessons indefinitely, due to many of their largeish and more skilled horses needing to retire and lots of issues finding suitable replacements. Which leaves me with the trainer and lease at the H/J barn. She is fabulous, the horse is fabulous, the barn culture is fabulous. But… (there’s always a but) I need to get out of the ring on occasion. And there is no place to do it, save a short, flat hack around the paddocks. But no place for hill work, or practicing riding over uneven terrain, or just messing about on a trail – all holes in my re-education.

So now I’m back to making phone calls and looking at the map (traffic around here is ridiculous) to explore options to supplement the H/J setup. I’m willing to be patient, but it’s tough.

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As you can see our drought has broken. Here is Stars looking so not black. I need to get him another day rug. He is wearing Bobby’s and really needs 6’3".

So remember I stopped riding him as he was lifting his whole head and neck and I was worried it was physical.

So it is several weeks later and with hindsight I now know what was wrong.

Stars is cold backed and if you have seen Sectetariat, how the trainer describes Him, is also describing Stars, laid back, lounges, etc, etc. I can see why they worked him every day leading up to that big race. Stars is better being done daily. I am talking physically not just mentally.

The new training from my instructor had been working wonderfully, however with him getting less days per week his cold back tendencies were returning.

Which meant with me asking him to trot he could not respond physically how he knew I wanted him to do and the lifting of the head and neck was actually anxiety.

I had not picked that up as all my horses are so calm and relaxed when I ride them and he is such a laid back horse.

So with me giving him time off and then it rained, then me working. He reverted to out of work so quickly.

I put on the saddle and he now has the wide cair girth that he has not bucked with. I told hubby to move away when I finished tacking, just in case and yes 4 bucks. He looks so tortured those first few steps. It doesn’t matter what saddle, girth or even the roller. We are torturing him. Do we have the right?

Up to lunge him and he was just so uncomfortable in his own skin. I lunged without side reins and them put them on extra loose. I didn’t do more than that. He did everything I asked but just so uncomfortable in his own skin.

Day 2 no bucking. And not as uncomfortable. I did put the side reins up 2 for canter. Swishing tail every stride.

Day 3 Better. Slow and quick in trot. Only swishing tail one way.

Day 4. Better Slow and quick in trot. Better in canter.

Day 5 Super Star dressage horse. Slow and quick in canter. No swishing of tail.

Day 6 day off because of work.

Day 7. Not going forward on lunge. Same under saddle. Uncomfortable in his skin with rider on. Sigh. I have been riding him for years now and way back at square 1 … and honestly I am going to start calling doing the bread in the mornings to going to the gym.

Usually when he is out of work, I am also out of riding and also starting again. Not so, man can I sit. He is doing all kinds of things under me including steps of canter. I am able to sit to all of it with ABSOLUTELY NO FEAR.

I work mainly on just keeping him relaxed. At one point he is trotting so slow I sit and ask if he would prefer I sat. He kicked up and said no he did not prefer that!

Day 2 we did canter. It is deep dolphin cantering. I just sit to it and at one point I did not even have the inside rein. I managed to pick it up without pulling on the outside rein. I was proud of me for that.

Day 3 only light dolphin cantering. The difference from the horse at 6.46 am just as we start warming up and the horse at 7.11am is phenomenal. He is no longer trying all the gaits at once like on Day 1 and has not done that since.

Day 4 dolphin cantering has disappeared and on the circle he actually offered canter.

Day 5. Asked for walk canter and he nails it first stride. Better than before the time off.

Day 6 not so great. 2 strides for walk to canter.

Day 7 not great. It takes ages to warm up. I have to go to work.

I decide to ride again on the afternoon, not good if it is because of tack. I really work on the warm up and the canter. Hubby says he is lifting his head in the canter transitions.

Day 8. This morning. I go over him with a fine tooth comb. Actually the curry comb glove. I watch for any reaction around the saddle and girth area. There is not a flick of the ear, no interest, nada, nothing. Zero, zilch. I swear I can not find a thing.

When I first ask him to walk, he takes one step, then a step with his other leg and then again and then walks. At least he does not look like we are torturing him.

I go up and ride him and get him cantering and work on canter transitions with not lifting his head.

I walk him. I take the saddle off and hubby says no wonder he doesn’t want to do anything. He has a huge sore.

It is back behind the girth but the girth is pretty wide and he goes from girth to big tummy with having time off and us actually having grass.

I still swear it was not there before. I curry comb and then wipe him all over with the new cactus cloth I learnt about on COTH and bought on Ebay from England. I was actually checking for anything on both sides to do with saddle and girth.

So next to figure out if it is the girth or my leg or what. I do have thinner girths I can put on for awhile. He gets 2 days off now. Hubby is going to trim his hooves and the 3 of them are going to be wormed.

A rant about Cetrigen. They came out with a pink spray that after hours actually beckoned the flies to wounds.

They have finally changed it to a purple spray. Now why they can put out a purple spray and True Blu cannot I don’t know. I hope is not because Cetrigen has taken all the stuff that turns it purple.

I rang Joseph Lyddy months ago. It has been around for decades and they could no longer buy the stuff that makes the colour but they were searching.

So Cetrigen brings out a purple spray and put it in a spray bottle which you have to screw the sprayer part to close and to open, which of course means you get purple all over your hands. It also only squirts and does not spray.

Hopefully we have an old true blu spray bottle that we can put it in, the kind that has a square as the sprayer bit. You can turn it for off, squirt or spray, and yes probably get purple all over your hands!

@AllTheCarrots will PM you about some possible eventing options!

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@SuzieQNutter Yowch, poor guy. What kind of girth were you using, out of curiosity? I’ve been contemplating one of those wide ergonomic girths for Rajah down the road. I love the detailed snippets of your life!

After demonstrating a little more core strength and balance than in previous lessons as I trotted around the ring, I cantered for the first time ever today (on the lunge). VERY chuffed. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: It helps that Pony has a freaking comfortable rocking canter, apparently, so as long as I kept my core engaged it was easy to sit (and my goodness, so much fun).

The most difficult thing for me right now is the marching walk, especially without stirrups. I’m really unused to feeling my hips move around like that and is slightly uncomfortable/unusual sensation. It’s also quite hard to not hold tension in my thighs.

My instructor says I have to keep asking in the walk until Stars is moving my body.

It is a cair girth and the reviews are really good for girthy horses. I used it all last year with no problems The rub is way back away from his girth, so I really have no idea if it was the girth or not. If not the girth it must have been my leg. It is too low for the saddle blanket, or the saddle. Either way you would think if there was a problem with either you would think it would be on both sides.

Hubby asked if I had changed anything and the answer was a yes. I had been putting the girth on 5 and 5, but I changed to 4 and 5 as I thought it was getting pretty tight and the grass has grown. It used to be on 4 and 5 previously.

I might put the roller on. Seeing how it is today. It is healing but hard and flakey. I can’t put anything on it, but it does look like a spot that is not near the girth.

Horses! If only they could talk.

I bought him a new rug. He has been wearing the one I bought for Bobby years ago and he is sunbleaching as it is not really long enough at the back.

I put him in the house yard when I left for work, when I got home I took off his old rug and he was a lather of sweat. It was hot but I think he must have been running around.

I use the shade cloth rugs. They have holes in them and are not material, they are like a soft wire. They are the coolest I can find.

I hosed him off which we do not usually do because of us being on tank water and offered him water. Nope, and put him back up in the big paddock which has a water trough. It rained.

When I put him back in his paddock he tried to drink the bit of water in his feed bin from the rain, so I took him to his water trough and he did start to drink.

Faye- jingles for a smooth transition to your new place and for finding a great barn!

Finally got Pony time- after 3 weeks off I could hardly wait. Pony, however, was initially less than thrilled to go from relax time to Show Practice.

We did get to practice halter stuff and she really enjoys it. After a few laps, I slack the lead give her a look, and off we prance. We will have stiff competition in the Most Classic halter class, so I’m going to work on it after every lesson.

Finances permitting, we may get to do a fun show in May, at a super fancy new place. Could be nice to knock off ring rust- mine not hers.

The Big Show in September is going to be epic- Welsh classes, Paso classes, Draft, Gypsy, carriage. So, so excited. Thankfully the cart classes run after halter. Pony has a strong dislike for the carts.

LOL, Lucky I was alone while on Pepper when Bob Bone came down the hill at Pony club, with 2 clydesdales pulling a big ornate not silent carriage. It was the only time I ever dismounted from Pepper, he was terrified and I could tell it was too dangerous to stay on him. He erupted on the ground but i was able to keep him with me and not let go. I was probably early 20’s.

So who comes out at the next One Day Event? We had done the Dressage and Cross country and were waiting to go in the show jump.

In comes Bob Bone with his clydestales, his ornate non silent carriage and a politician.

I looked around the warm up and there were 2 girls, I did not know, walking with each other and in my pony club uniform. I immediately went over to them and walked with them, keeping Pepper as calm as I could.

This took quite a bit of time, so by the time they finished speeches or whatever they were doing, every parent, family member and not currently riding rider were sitting on the grass watching. This was not normal.

At the jump right near the audience, we took off at the middle of the jump, however Peppy jumped left and we just missed the wing of the jump. We did go clear and won but it so could have so gone another way.

Yay! I rode Bennie for the first time on Wednesday since my ACL tear. I only walked, but that’s ok. My back was killing me; I guess I slouch a lot because it was screaming as I sat up tall. The worst part was dismounting, which is how I hurt my knee. It took me about 5 minutes to get up the gumption to slide down. Obviously, I did get down, landing on my good leg. Bennie was a good boy, and I hope to trot a little next time. I am SO out of shape!

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Hang in there! I go through these feelings at times as well. Like, anytime I have a bad lesson. :slight_smile: Just remember, you’re on your own timeline, so don’t feel rushed with goals. Take your time, enjoy the ride!!

Congrats! It’s good to feel proud. Enjoy.

Maybe by then it’ll be safe enough to spectate!! :slight_smile:

Woohoo!! Take it one ride at a time.


I’m hoping to ride this afternoon. I have to start getting ready for the dressage show season. I have a few on my radar in addition to the virtual shows.

Well, I haven’t riden in almost a month due to wonky weather, but yesterday was finally perfect in weather and me having time off from work. Tio, my all-around horse-was a little “too quiet” when I tacked him up so I decided I’d better lunge first. Sure enough, he was pretty froggy and tense. He loves to jump however, so I decided to lunge him at the trot over a cross rail like maybe 18" high as a means of distracting him from being truly naughty. He casually trotted up to the cross rail, took one look at it and jumped so high that he could’ve cleared my 4’ standards easily! It was soooo beautiful, his knees tucked up tightly by his ears, a bascule that went on for days. Omg, I wish I could find someone who would jump him over real jumps like that. Of course he took off bucking after he landed, but dang that horse can jump! I told my eventer friend that she should build a jumping chute for him so she can see what a cool horse he really is. :wink:

Welcome back SpacyTracy! Hope you have fun with your new TB, funny how things come full circle.

LOL SueB. I am glad you didn’t get on.

Yay at Bennie being so good.

So I went shopping to get Stars a new rug, while I was there I bought a body brush. It has fur in the middle and it is sooooo soft, you just want to feel it on your own face and a lunge whip.

I lunged Stars yesterday. The girth is an inch in front of the rub. I am thinking now that Mr Sensitive with his Summer coat may have got the rub from the rubber on the sole of my sneaker. I ride in safety cages so I ride in sneakers.

WELL what a fancy shmancy lunge whip. To start with it is dotted black and white so it really stands out nestled amongst the black whips and boy does it whip through the air, so different to 50 years (more or less)of lunging with other whips. (Mum used to lament that she wished I put as much time into lunging the horses as I did lunging the dog when I was a toddler.

Stars was forward in the canter. Yes time off because of the rub but I think it was the different sound from the whip, it means business.