Canadian horse dq'ed

The FEI seems to have their own issues with the Irish, for whatever reason. But the only two other “violations” of this senseless rule is by North Americans. Now, the Europeans(I don’t include UK, IRL in this) have many times the number of show jumpers that the North Americans have, yet not a single violation in the last two years, which is as far as I looked? Really?

Any rule that cam be applied in such in inconsistent manner, and also can’t be appealed, is a razor in a monkey’s paw. A very corrupt monkey.

I am more and more with you in this, LaurieP.

Actually, Denis had a total of “three violations” (disqualifications) although, the FEI stated ALL THREE TIMES that they were NOT RIDER FAULT.

Huh? If they are using this as an excuse to eliminate top contenders, then why do it at all.

I wonder if the Saudi horses will be checked and tested this week :rolleyes:

And, I am sorry, but Shane Sweetman deserved to go in Denis’ place far more than Cian (who is on a new and green horse.) Oh, right, Shane is based in the US… :no:

Really really feel for Tiffany. I can only imagine how paranoid the Canadians will be over every little scrape and bump now.

I think it’s really horrible luck, but I’m just not sure how else this could’ve gone down with the rule as written.

Unfortunately the rules are in place because of previous wrongs. She’s now paying the price. However, if the horse tests “hypersensitive” under the guidelines, how can they give her a “bye”? Yes, in this particular instance, I think it sucks and I really feel for Tiffany, her team and crew. But what if in the future, unsavory types inflict abrasions on coronet bands and deny abuse? Stranger and much worse things have happened.

Now, the ruling on the Saudi issue I can’t comment on since I didn’t really follow that at the time. I just hope the rules are equally enforced across the board.

Ok, I’m not an expert on this by any means, but I understood the hypersensitivity rule to protect horse’s against riders putting a caustic substance on their legs to make them really afraid to hit poles, can’t remember the name of the substance. I rememeber that McLain clipped some of Sapphire’s leg hair and had it tested. It came back clean. So it seems to me that if you are protecting horses from this and from poling, then how can you eliminate a horse for hypersensitivity and then say the rider did nothing wrong? Either you’re testing for cheating or you’re not. If you poke any horse enough it’ll flinch. If they poke the wrong horse enough then one of these officials is gonna get kicked but good. The whole thing is foolish and completely doesn’t test for anything that makes sense

Were there any Canadian officials present when they entered the horses stall and did the testing?

the rider or Person Responsible is there, everybody who is at the warm up can watch it.

I don’t know how often the non-european riders are checked under fei rules. And i do not believe that everybody here is playing withhin the rules but i believe that maybe our riders are more careful if they do sh*t like that. They often find rulebreakers in germany. I think since our federation is strong about medications as the fei our riders know how to stay in the green light. And if they get one they mostly get the same people.

The FEI is a hard place to work with but please do not for get that Beezie husband is acting chair of the jumping commitee
John Roche FEI Director of jumping is irish. In the veterinary commitee are for non european members

I don’t say european riders don’t do anything bad but if all riders outside european fell treated wrongly they have to raise their voice. Many european riders are nice guys and like to compete against the best no matter where they come from.

Global Champions Tour in Rio last year! They tested a horse of Simon Delestre of France and found it unfit to compete. They do find European riders!!!

Its not a test to simply see if people are cheating, the FEI is saying it is a test to see if the animal is “fit to compete with no harm”. So even if it is a nick that wasn’t caused on purpose, they still felt the horse would be in pain if it had to compete. Which is why they have stated numerous times that they are not implying any malicious intent on Tiffany’s behalf.

That being said, I completely disagree with what happened and think it is a horribly unfair and devastating thing to happen to Tiffany and to Canada. A nick on a coronet band does not put the horse in jeopardy and certainly wouldn’t affect the horse’s performance. As it seems Eric insinuated in his interview, after being poked and prodded by 10 people IN THE STALL, no wonder the horse was hypersensitive??

Craziness.

From what I read, Eric and Tiffany were walking the course when they went in the stall to test the horse. A groom may have been there, but I doubt the rider, trainer or chef d’équipe were. I am still impressed by their result today!

You need to look again.

It’s not a conspiracy.
The country with the most violations is Ireland, 3 of them from one rider.
So you would have us believe, i) the FEI hates North Americans (does that include Mexicans, or just Yanks and Cannucks?). ii) they really hate the Irish and iii) the really really really hate Denis Lynch.

Oh and I guess they also hate the French as much as the Americans and Canadians (because after all, they have as many violations as either) but not as much as they hate North Americans (̉¿sin Mexicanos?) collectively?? Is that right?

Or maybe some people were unlucky, and a certain person who got busted three times (and that’s just the hypersensitivity violations) is either very, very unlucky, or kinda sloppy.
And btw, is Éireanach mé, so if anyone should be jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon, I should be the man to be doing it.