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I can’t understand how in the world you get 38 HORSES IN ONE TRAILER! Seriously… a short roofed cattle trailer at that. [/QUOTE]
I know of one double decker that loaded up with 52 Thoroughbreds (one of them is in my barn now).
Oh that is terrible! So sad!
Invoking the most horrid of venereal infections complete with MRSA plus intestinal impaction upon the parties involved.
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Mentioned in an Animals Angels investigation to have attended the Mayfield, KY auction.
ETA: According to DOT records Three Angels Farms is located at 151 Mill Road, Lebanon, TN.
Listed owner: Edwin Ayache[/QUOTE]
Horrible accident, yes, an accident.
Terrible that the animal rights vultures are hovering on it, ghoulishly making it part of their propaganda already.:no:
Remember last time one such accident happened, the name and address of the driver was all over the internet and he was harassed at home with death threats and his kids at school.:eek:
Almost half a century ago, a truck load of standardbreds going to CA had a wreck right here.
Our training stable being the closest, we took in some 16 head, some seriously injured.
It was several months before the last two were fit to travel on to their owners in CA.
Everyone with a trailer here came running and kept hauling horses down to us, as soon as the vets working on them had them stable enough to do so.
I wonder how will they handle that there today.
If any laws were broken, the ones doing so should be prosecuted, of course, but not until such is determined to be so I hope.
I would wait a bit yet with the lynch mob.
If the animal rights groups get involved, I expect they will make a PR circus of the tragedy, as they did out of the other accident.
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It is a 2006 Freightliner tractor trailer QUOTE]
my Nash-Vegas friends were talking about it this morning on FB
just as a clarifying point…the 2006 Freightliner is the semi truck make and model hauling the trailer…the trailer is given a seperate name based on type bull hauler,reefer,flatbed,box and so on…or brand name…'86 Wabash or 93 Freightliner and so on
tractor trailer is the short for a “tractor and trailer behind it” and is actually inaccurate as a description…
Tamara
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Horrible accident, yes, an accident.
Terrible that the animal rights vultures are hovering on it, ghoulishly making it part of their propaganda already.:no:[/QUOTE]
The animal welfare group mentioned investigated in July 2011. Did you read the link rather than jumping to conclusions? Only ask because you are adamant that others read your links when posted by the beef industry. 
I passed a “boarded up” hog trailer heading into the plant last night about dark down in the Valley…most all stock trailers are “boarded up” to keep the stock warm this time of year…even the chicken trucks
are covered
I’d be interested to see the make and model of the trailer
Tamara
Jut pop the popcorn.
The AR people are on it, I am sure.
As to the animal angels…I think they are somewhat straddling the fence.
However,
Somebody refresh my memory, do the drivers of other overturned semis find their names published over the internet as well?
It was the main point of Bluey’s post.
But I guess it is ok for life stock haulers to be treated like that, right.
Oh, FWIW to you ‘OH EM GEE Cattle truck’ people…you haul Dobbins with a ‘Stock’ trailer you are just as guilty of it. Jumping to conclusions based on a word in an article, likely written by a person who knows squat about the matter…
Anyone else notice the increasing in AR postings on COTH. Almost like vultures waiting on the next bad thing to happen to horses.
nah, not increased.
Same old faces.
Their non-life must be boring.
However, I am seeing a increase in the hostile vibes. The time from the original posting of an incident to the calls for torches and pitchforks is rapidly decreasing.
Conclusion Jumping ought to be an Olympic event. The handful of COTHers would be a shoe in for the gold!
Thinking about the four hours to unload thing.
I would rather it take a little longer to unload the horses than have horses loose all over the place that are putting more people and themselves in danger.
Accidents are sad. No reason to assume the driver is evil.
[QUOTE=Alagirl;6085710]
Jut pop the popcorn.
The AR people are on it, I am sure.
As to the animal angels…I think they are somewhat straddling the fence.
However,
Somebody refresh my memory, do the drivers of other overturned semis find their names published over the internet as well?
It was the main point of Bluey’s post.
But I guess it is ok for life stock haulers to be treated like that, right.
Oh, FWIW to you ‘OH EM GEE Cattle truck’ people…you haul Dobbins with a ‘Stock’ trailer you are just as guilty of it. Jumping to conclusions based on a word in an article, likely written by a person who knows squat about the matter…[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure if this directed specifically to me but since you quoted me I must ask…am I not allowed to comment? Am I mistaken that some posters always use the same arguments when - say - grain vs. grass? Is there a difference?
When any accident, whether car, buggy, truck, etc. is reported in the news yes, names are published in my neck of the woods as well as the company if a truck represented one.
I guess if one were to get nit-picky on someone having a “non-life” another could easily look to see how many times one posts in a day on any thread. Some of the posters numbers are envious. It must be exhausting to know what the motives are for every.single.post.and have an answer for everything. :rolleyes: I wish I had the time to sit here all day posting but aside from checking in on the horse care or off course forum I do speak up when something catches my eye.
It is true we don’t know exactly what kind of a trailer it was.
However there is a HUGE difference between stock trailers and double decker or pot bellied cattle trailers. Those trailers lack the height to give most horses sufficient headroom
So, because we are disgusted that a trailer would contain 38 horses, that a driver would fall asleep at the wheel (endangering not only the horses but everyone else on the road)… we are ARA? I love animals, any kind, and will never sit back and say “oh, but it was ok, oh poor driver had his name published in the papers…” And yes, here too, drivers`names are published, no matter what the cause of the accident!
Whether it’s cattle, pigs, chicken and mostly horses, their transport methods lack a lot. Pack them in as tight as possible… we ll get more in!
And EquineLaundry, I agree with you regarding some posters`lives being really boring. Look who is talking!!!
Jingling for all these poor horses.
From your the above link
Outside, a single deck trailer from Three Angel Farms in Tennessee was backed up to the loading ramp. The parking lot was crowded with pick up trucks and stock trailers. There was only one tractor/trailer present (no DOT #), but the license plates showed that it was from Tennessee.
That’s all that was mentioned. Not sure what any of this is proof of except the farm owns a single deck trailer.
Lets crucify, hang and burn at the stake, all involved because they, ALL must be horrible people.
OMG!!!.. It was an accident involving horses.
Lets now break out the conspiracy theories.
Yes, lets look who’s talking…:lol::lol::lol:
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So, because we are disgusted that a trailer would contain 38 horses, that a driver would fall asleep at the wheel (endangering not only the horses but everyone else on the road)… we are ARA? I love animals, any kind, and will never sit back and say “oh, but it was ok, oh poor driver had his name published in the papers…” And yes, here too, drivers`names are published, no matter what the cause of the accident!
Whether it’s cattle, pigs, chicken and mostly horses, their transport methods lack a lot. Pack them in as tight as possible… we ll get more in!
And EquineLaundry, I agree with you regarding some posters`lives being really boring. Look who is talking!!!
Jingling for all these poor horses.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry about the wreck and the injuries/deaths of the horse but I have to comment on the “pack them in as tight as possible” statement. When you are hauling animals loose in a stock type trailer it is good practice to put them in a close space so they don’t have a lot of room to move around. If they have a lot of room to move, they tend to shift around making it harder to haul them plus they have more toom to fight and injure each other and there is more opportunity to knock an animal down so it is trampled. So “packing them in” isn’t just to save money, it actually can prevent injuries.
How is presenting factual reports crucifying anyone? Seems you read too much drama into prior posts.
It was an accident involving horses. It’s being discussed on a horse forum.
A driver falling asleep behind the wheel shortly after he left with his load, regardless of what the load contained, is subject to investigation and charges.
No conspiracy involved.
Well, true to a point.
But going from the shot of the trailers undercarriage to the assumption that is is indeed a DD is ridiculous.
The number of horses on the truck is one thing. It has not even anything to do with the accident.
That the driver fell asleep is a major concern. However, it’s an epidemic among truck drivers that they are not well rested.
And still it is no reason to break out the pitch forks.
Just for clarification - the current prohibition on transporting horses in double decker trailers is a USDA regulation - which means it would only be enforced (if at all) by USDA at USDA regulated facilities or checkpoints (i.e. potentially, a border crossing.) It is NOT federal law (yet). Some states may have a prohibition in place, but transporting horses in these things from point-to-point domestically is a big loophole in federal law until either DOT promulgates its own regs or federal law is passed.
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