Chesapeake Bay Retrievers?

I agree with the EXTREME descrition.
My Stepdad has one. He’s super smart and loyal. But has an obsession with tennis balls and fetching. He wil go outside with his ball and chew and chew… or bark and bark until someone comes out to play. My Stepdad did hunt with him in his younger years as well as many obedience classes.

Him and his ‘siblings’ go for long hikes, swims in the river and are constantly running around. Yet he never is completely tired (until its 9pm and its bedtime…then he’s out like a rock). He’s about 11/12 now, and has yet to slow down (hah!).

He does “dive”. If he feels a stick/rock under the water he will go for it. Sometimes under for a few minutes at a time. He once scared the #^&#( out of me once- He went down for a stick and either it wouldn’t get free or he got caught on something and I had to jump in to rescue him. I thought he was going to be dead. Again - Very strong drive.

I do believe he is from the Silvercreek bloodlines (or is it Chessbar? I can’t remember). This is his mother on the cover of a book: http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/IMAGES/amazon/books/Chesapeake-Bay-Retrievers.jpg

Here’s Hunter!:
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[QUOTE=kcgold;6307033]
will echo most of what others have said…have spent time with several (we showed some for friends, and boarded several of them). Very handsome breed, terrific hunting dogs, but very hard-headed and stubborn. Some can be dog aggressive…loyal to their owners, but could be a difficult breed, especially for a newer dog owner.
Labs, Goldens, Flat-coats, even a Toller would all be much easier :).[/QUOTE]

Actually considering Tollers as well :slight_smile:

Thank you

Well, this was a walk down memory lane. The good and the bad. lol.

Our dog growing up was a Lab/Chessie cross. My parents got him when I was four, and put him down partway thru my first year of university, 1 month shy of his 15th birthday.

From puppyhood they did things like take his food away while he was eating, etc, to make sure he wouldn’t snap at any of us kids if we were dumb enough to do it.

My youngest brother was born when Theseus was 2. It’s unlikely he would have survived childhood without that dog. :lol::lol::yes:

Where we were, the dog was. I rode him like a horse. (not even kidding!!!) He had his ears and tail pulled by young kids with shameful regularity, and tolerated it stoicly. He tolerated ALL children. He babysat my youngest brother, which was good, since said brother had a tendancy to go “POOF” the instant my parents turned their back for an eighth of a second.

My mom came home from work one day and there were vehicles parked on the road a HALF MILE from home. Brother was about 3 and had wandered off the instant my dad’s back was turned. My cousin was trying to pick him up and take him home, but no way no how was the dog letting him put the kid in the truck.

When cousins would stop to drop mail off, they couldn’t even get on the deck if we weren’t home. Eventually as he aged he’d let them on the deck, but not actually in the house. Mail in the BBQ was common. :lol:

He was an awesome jehova witness deterrent, especially after he followed them snarling to the garden, where they followed my mom in high heels (she was tilling it up at the time), and when she cited being too busy to stop, they asked if she’d restrain the dog. “You made it here, you’ll probably make it back to your car.” They did…Theseus growling all the way. And they didn’t come back for a LONG time. Like, years.

He never outright attempted to bite anyone. Well, except the one time he bit my one cousin (adult), but we all felt the guy had it coming.

He wasn’t socialized to other dogs as a youngster, and never did tolerate other dogs coming onto “his farm”. The farm was HIS, and when a cousin’s dog came wandering over, he chased him home. When my uncle’s dog showed up from across the field, he had him cornered under the deck. He was absolutely a one-dog home.

And he killed cats. We never did manage to keep cats alive/around while we had him.

But he was the best dog our family could have asked for. Never chewed shoes, or anything that wasn’t his. He did steal and chew firewood…you had to pick pieces of firewood up around the yard before mowing. We even watched him, more than once, trot off with a log to go “hide” his prize somewhere in the bush.

He could chew pop cans to smithereens without ever cutting his mouth. God knows how, but he could. And it didn’t matter how well they were stored away out of reach, he found them.

He didn’t have toys, because he always assumed anything we touched was “ours” and would not touch them. I can’t remember if he retrieved/played fetch or not. This is probably pretty atypical.

He was, without any real work/obedience training, the perfect dog. I’m not sure how/why, but we obviously really lucked out.

Because of all this, I would consider a chessie someday as a family/outdoor/farm dog… although preferably crossed with a lab. But it would have to be the RIGHT one - there would be a LOT of research involved to the exact specific dog chosen.

Darnit, he was just a fabulous dog.

Oh, and he HATED baths. He didn’t get them often - but he most certainly did whenever he engaged in his FAVORITE passtime…swimming in sewage :dead:

I just remembered atime when he was still fairly young, and my uncle brought his malamute over. They got along famously…and of course he had to show the Mal exactly WHERE the best swimming hole EVER is. Both despised their baths, that day.

The love of sewage has been passed down, by the way. My border collie girl discovered, all by herself, the fabulous thing called the “Grey water pool” when we go home to visit. :dead: Lots of baths in her future!

He was loyal to a fault, 100% hooked on all of his family, and absolutely trustworthy…not to mention the best babysitter EVER. Fond memories…

D*MN he was a good dog.

(PS, about the dogs that smell…all dogs smell if you don’t give them a bath! I don’t understand why people put up with stinky dogs - yuck! They won’t die from giving them a bath and using appropriate products for their skin/coat. Go to a dog show and you rarely find a smelly dog!)

actually, this is very untrue- most dogs don’t stink at all, even if not bathed very frequently. The stinky “doggy smell” is an indication of poor health; often you’ll find smelly dogs are fed on cheap corn/soy based foods, and when switched to a meat-based diet the smell goes away. A healthy dog of most breeds will only have a very mild doggy odor when wet; otherwise, you can put your face right down to the coat and smell nothing, except a corn chip smell to the feet. If there is an obvious body odor, something is not right.

However, some dogs, notoriously certain breeds of hounds, and some water dogs (not labs- if your lab smells, check his diet/ears/teeth), produce an oily substance that is used to waterproof the dog’s coat. These dogs, the water just rolls right off and they dry instantly. Very handy. However, the oil can smell a bit rancid. And bathing doesn’t help, in fact, it makes it worse- the more often you get these dogs wet, the more oil they produce. Often it is suggested by the knowing that you avoid bathing waterproof-fur type dogs.

As for the “smelly” issue, their skin simply secrets more oils for protecting their coat/repelling water. Their job was to be in the water. Their coat required more oil to better protect them. Retrievers logically produce it more abundantly than other breeds. Chessies seems to produce more oil than the labs. Even with bathing, they still retain their own distinct odor. Chessies smell very different from labs too. Not saying any of this in a bad way.

I’m really surprised at all the negative reviews for this breed. I grew up in Maryland in the 1950s and these dogs weren’t uncommon. I always thought they were friendly and gentle, much like Goldens in more recent years. I wonder if they’ve been bred for more “assertive” qualities over the years?

Is anything really the same as it was in the 50’s. Don’t we all pine for the good old days. :wink:

I don’t think folks are saying the breed is “bad”, but this potential owner is doing the right thing: researching their training experience, energy level and home life fits what the dog was bred for, otherwise the Chessie could be a “bad choice”. These dogs are bred to hunt and WORK outside all day. They are not jogging companions or housedogs who are satisfied with vigorous fetch for 30 minutes. My uncle had English Pointers and GSPs. They didn’t live inside. They lived in kennels outside and worked/hunted. They did not play and live with the family. I think all serious dog people (esp. working dog people) can picture in their minds the life of this working dog in 1950’s Maryland (where the breed was developed) vs. today, and the pictures would be VERY different. No fenced yards or leashes were common when I grew up!

[QUOTE=Lusoluv;6308847]
I don’t think folks are saying the breed is “bad”, but this potential owner is doing the right thing: researching their training experience, energy level and home life fits what the dog was bred for, otherwise the Chessie could be a “bad choice”. These dogs are bred to hunt and WORK outside all day. They are not jogging companions or housedogs who are satisfied with vigorous fetch for 30 minutes. My uncle had English Pointers and GSPs. They didn’t live inside. They lived in kennels outside and worked/hunted. They did not play and live with the family. I think all serious dog people (esp. working dog people) can picture in their minds the life of this working dog in 1950’s Maryland (where the breed was developed) vs. today, and the pictures would be VERY different. No fenced yards or leashes were common when I grew up![/QUOTE]

Yes exactly :yes: and I appreciate it immensely.

I’ve never owned a Chessie, but I went to a retrieving demo last year and all of the demo dogs were Chessies. The presenter mentioned that the breed has changed a lot over the years… in the old days the dogs not only had the job of retrieving, but they would have also been responsible for guarding the boat. He said with all of their members the dogs live in the home, too, so their temperament has evolved for the better.

Wow, I am surprised at all of the negatives! I know they are a more assertive dog than a lab (I always tell people mine is NOT a curly coated lab!) and are not always for first time dog owners, but they can be sonderful dogs. My girl is the best dog we’ve ever had and we’d get another in a heartbeat. My husband’s family also had one who was an ANGEL! We know a breeder and those dogs are also great family/farm dogs. None of us do retrieving and my dog has no interest at all in retrieving (although I’m sure she would have if I had started early with her). She is amazing with ALL other dogs - knows how to difuse situations with aggressive dogs without fighting. She has only gotten in one dog fight and that was when the neighbor’s crazy dog came over and tried to attack my BIL from behind. She kicked that dog’s a$$ and came when I called her.

As a young dog she could be tough if left home alone, so we crated her and she was fine from then on. She is amazing with my 5 cats and 4 outdoor cats. She is amazing with my corgi, chihuahua and hound mixes (2 females and a male). She is amazing with the horses and actually plays with the mini (they chase eachother and graze side by side). She is amazing with our roosters/hens. Only animal she was ever bad with was my SIL’s goat - the smell drove her nuts, but we were able to train her to leave the goat alone (she always wanted to lick it, but I would not have trusted her alone with that goat).

She can be intense, but is so smart and is great when people visit. She has a HUGE bark, but uses it sparingly and is rarely threatening towards people. It is approriate when she has been threatening and she has not bitten, only showed that she was on the job protecting.

She has a soft outer coat - very soft and pretty. She does NOT smell. The hound does, but she does not. I don’t bath her that regularly either. She does shed, but not as bad as the corgi. She has developed some skin issues this year, but she is 12 and I think it was due to a flea problem I had when I took in some feral cats.

She is a great dog, but I agree, you need to get a good one and spend a lot of time with them - I think that is true of most dogs though.

She is so loyal - she is always the last to leave the barn - she will not leave if one of us is still down there. The other dogs may stay in if the weather is bad, but Maggie will be by our side no matter what the circumstance. She is also a great hunter - racoons, possums and a great ratter - she is quick and kills them with one shake. We are going to miss her so much when her time comes.

Here is my Maggie Pie
She ADORES my neighbor Dennis!
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Here she is with the whole crew:
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my beauty
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This is an oldie, but one of my favorite pictures - she is so good with kids:
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