That’s why I respect Carl Hester. According to his website, He’s paid his dues riding this and that. While I hesitate to divert the tenor of this thread, I admit I was abit taken aback that the gorgeous horse in his video was already retired? WTF? Since C.H. was only clinicing, he is of course blameless, but what were the owners thinking? I apologize most sincerely if the lameness was a freak accident, an unforeseeable event, etc., but if it occurred as a result of unbridled[excuse the pu] ambition and future$$signs in someone’s eyes, then I say shame on them and the direction this sport is heading. Carl Hester however? I have nothing but awe and admiration for him. Read his books, seen him ride, not a snob, calls a spade a spade yet is also compassionate. Hard to find in modern BNTs.
Just conjecture with nothing to back up but,
oldschool, you said what I was afraid to say. I don’t want to turn this thread into a ‘let’s bash talented horses’ thread…
I admit I was abit taken aback that the gorgeous horse in his video was already retired? WTF? Since C.H. was only clinicing, he is of course blameless, but what were the owners thinking?
Well quite clearly you would all win an Olympic medal in conclusion - jumping thereto!!!
The horse did get sick - TRAGICALLY - no it wasn’t neglected. Yes the owners were and still are gutted - yes they pursued every possible avenue of treatment and care - no they didn’t abuse the horse - no they didn’t over train the horse - no it wouldn’t have been cured or prevented by turning him out in a field with some buddies or trail riding.
But you all go ahead and make the quantam leap of logic that assumes that a rider and owner would be clever enough to find a horse like this but stupid enough to wilfully trash it, i’ll be in the queue buying tickets for your new Olympic event.
Is it possible that his talent and possibilities led people, and I’m definately NOT accusing Carl,to push him too fast?? Just conjecture with nothing to back up but, Hmmm. Gives one pause to think.My champion quarter horse has NEVER been lame, but then again, I don’t compete int’lly and use my horse as a means to big $$ or fame.
Good Grief. Way to start a baseless and ignorant rumour.
Good luck with your QH that is immune to injury and illness.
Well If you had actually read my post, I was sure to state that I DIDN’T KNOW THE NATURE OF THE INJURY! That’s what I was asking, and I made sure to apologize beforehand if I was leaping to a wrong conclusion. I was just curious how such a glorious animal wasn’t viable competitively. Don’t jump down MY throat. Geez!But everyone knows when anyone, or anyhorse is supertalented, this world has a way of sucking the life out of them prematurely. Think Hollywood, music industry, models, and horses who don’t have a choice. I would never impune Carl, I’m a fan of his and I don’t know the owners of the horse and that is why I asked the?? I’m not so naive or vicious to think that sh$% doesn’y happen to even the best horse owners, so ONCE MORE, I apologize for even the slightest insinuation.
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That must be an older video as Dimaggio is 13 now and no longer ridden after injury. He stands at Vorwerk in Germany and has for some time.[/QUOTE]
Yes this “video” and the footage were filmed in 2000.
oldschool, you could have just plain old asked why the horse was retired. Period.
If you had done that, no one would be annoyed with you.
You’re right, my bad. I’m not always clear in what I’m trying to say. You’re right and once more I apologize up and down for any inference of abuse or neglect.
Oh there was more to it than that. Your champeeen QH ain’t never lame!
Regular everyday backyard non wb horses go lame every day
but it’s not NEWS and published on the net. Gee, I even know a few QHs, for example, who are retired for lameness issues byt their trail ridin owners. Were they pushed by greed and ambition!?
Are you on glue? Ego?? oh whoops, I’m mean Egon??What are you talking about? Go back to bed, get some sleep, wake up again, get some coffee. Lame 1/4 h’s? Huh? I must have missed something here.
My champion quarter horse has NEVER been lame, but then again, I don’t compete int’lly and use my horse as a means to big $$ or fame.
:lol: and your point is?
At least you’re laughing.
Oh yeah, laughing but how about answering the question? What was your point?
Do you really believe that backyard horses are so free of illness and injury? Have you done a survey?
I don’t know if I should reply yet. Did you have your nap and coffee? Just kidding, but seriously folks, no I haven’t done a survey but it is common sense that horse that are super talented run the danger of being used as a vehicle for the advancement of “some” trainers or an investment prospect. To deny this is to stick your head in the sand. And once more, I shall reiterate that I would NEVER impune C.H. or the owners. I asked a simple question. It"s You, Ego, that perceived more than the inital intent.Is there something you need to get off your chest?? Why so touchy? Lighten up dude.
oldschool, if you’re serious in your apology, go edit the offending post and apologize within it for it’s insinuations. People are peeved at you b/c here we’ve got a GOOD guy and you insinuated bad things about why the horse was retired.
You’re such a fan of his? Go edit and repent in doing so.
I am in no mood to bash great riders and great horses. Any speculation on what causes the injury or illness is just a speculation, oldschool already said that up front. There was indeed a discussion on offcourse before, are modern day horses hothouse flowers, something like that. And oldschool is just echoing the sentiments of many voiced there, using this thread.
I do not believe many talented athletes are fairly treated. That’s why we had the young horse test discussion. A friend of mine bred a real nice stallion… and trained by an Olympian indeed. They were campaingning him when he was 5. I saw many examples. It’s hard not to have an reaction when you learned of such spectacular, well bred horse suffered a career ending injury… and it is not to say, or even hint, all Olympian riders, including Carl, are bad horsemen.
Are the average horse less prone to injury? Yes and no. Obviously there are the clueless, the ignorant and the wannebe’s in low places and high places, and anywhere in between. That’s another story, another thread.
Thank you, MyReality, at least YOU got it. Understanding and accepting my SINCEREST APOLOGY for any PERCEIVED insuation that I was in the slightest way accusing ANYONE of ANYTHING!!OMG! Why should I not have the right to ask a simple question?? And YES! I am a fan of Carl’s and would NEVER accuse him of not working a horse with only it’sbest interest in mind!!Geez!!Get a grip already! Is it so hard for some of you to even grasp the fact that some horses that show talent gt used up? Did I say CArl did that? NO! Did I say the owners did that? NEVER! I have more sense than that and respect for people. WHy do you think I inserted a pre-emptive apology first for just wondering what happened to such an awesome horse?
