Clydesdale Hitch has accident, all ok

[MunchingonHay]

The video I am referencing is the one linked in that shows the zoomed in footage.

When the horses stop, the driver is shortening the lines and gathering contact. IF you look at his elbow, they are really far back so that makes me wonder if he just did not have enough contact before the halt. His feet are pushing against the dash and this hands are parallel with his bellybutton.

The horses stop and then his hands go forward almost to his knees to gather to make contact.

Then blurry fuzzy hand shaking footage. I watched the right swing pair (the head bobber) and he has a buxton bit in, so the line would not / should not catch on that, he also just looks to the right, not so much a bob. The third pair or second swing pair left horse bobs his head more than the other head bobber.

at the 11 second mark you see the driver collect the rail side horses to prepare to turn and again, his hands are at his belly button

Then at the 14-15 second mark, the co-driver is paying attention to the dog, and the driver realizes something is not right.

at 16 seconds, the co-driver notices something is wrong and the leaders are not backing into the swingle tree. (looks like the driver told him to dismount)

AT this point, the left rein may have snagged on the backstrap. but I still doubt it because the turn would have started here.

At 17 seconds he is gathering his lines some more and the leaders have already started to turn to the right into the rail and the right lead horse could look at the drive he is so far turned.

At 18 the co-driver hops off and the turn made by the leaders is passed the 90 degree turn and sees he has no where to go but in between swing pair two and three.

Right leader is dragging left leader with him the entire time.

@goodhors I understand how lines work. I was a four in hand groom for coaching and FEI CDEs for over a decade and I can drive a four. I have seen wheelers snag a leaders line, that was way more than a wheeler hanging on a line.

I do think the right leader took it upon himself to do the move on his own and realized he got stuck so went between pairs two and three. OR the driver did not have any control/contact from the halt.

IMHO.

[sascha]

Thank you so much for that second by second recap! There’s so much to look at it from a never-sat-on-the-boxseat perspective that I needed it all untangled for me.

[erinmeri]

@firecracker

Wow. My heart was in my throat watching this. I’m thankful the title of this thread said “all ok” - for a moment there I was seriously concerned about the downed horse.

Even though I knew it was okay in the end, I tested up watching this, especially when he didn’t get up at first. Really impressive all around in the end, untangling that mess so calmly! Really gut wrenching to watch, though, even knowing the outcome.

ETA: LOL, I teared up, not tested up. Siri!!!

[erinmeri]

@MunchingonHay

The video I am referencing is the one linked in that shows the zoomed in footage.

Which video? The Facebook link didn’t work for me. That one?

ETA: if someone sends me the link for the zoomed in footage, I can break it down frame by frame in video editing software.

[sascha]

Editing to say, I’m not sure this is going to work. The link is between this and the “You might need …” part but it’s not showing up.

You might need to hit refresh on your tab. I found that it sat there blank but if I hit refresh/reload/whatever it popped up.

[B_and_B]

Not sure how to make that FB video behave, sorry.
Whatever it was though, it wasn’t a spook. I think the second swing (in front of the heelers) may have started the pull. The reason I think it isn’t a spook is that you can see the leaders start the turn into the rail, hesitate a little, and then turn. Which is exactly what they should do. As @goodhors who has way more experience than I, notes, leaders need to be forward. And confident in really acting on their own in a sense. They are a long, long way from the driver.
The driver’s hand and foot position is standard (in my opinion) for the big draft hitches, he was setting up for a complicated turn, so he would have kept his feet in that ‘braced’ position. And the weight of 40 feet of lines means he is likely to keep them close to his body. The gathering of lines was probably because he was getting ready for the next movement.

[erinmeri]

@sascha

Editing to say, I’m not sure this is going to work. The link is between this and the “You might need …” part but it’s not showing up.

Nothing’s working, not even refreshing.

[SinMiedo]

Try this one:

Budweiser Wagon Accident at the SA Rodeo 2023

[Bluey]

@SinMiedo

Try this one:

Thank you, this video did show clearly what went on.

We had two horses over many decades that if you had the flank cinch tight, they could absolutely not back out of the trailer, they would act like their hind end didn’t work and sit down or even lay down.
When you loosened the flank cinch, they would jump right up.
The first one was a surprise, took a bit to figure why that was happening.
Years later another one did same and we knew right away to loosen flank cinch.
Is rare, but it happens and maybe that is why this horse, with that harness on, could not get his hind end to work properly to stand up, until they took whatever traces were cross firing his nervous system to keep his hindered working properly, as in our two horses years ago?

That was a strange wreck, would not have thought something like this could happen, the front ones wrapping themselves around like that and into a wall, makes sense something was hung and pulled them around, as some suggested.

The worst horse wrecks I have seen happened with driving horses, so much more to go wrong and get in the way when something goes wrong.
Some fine training for them all to have just stood there all that time without fussing, with so much different stuff going around them and good work by those helpers getting things sorted out.
Glad that horses seemed ok as they were exiting.

[MunchingonHay]

this is the video I watched : https://www.facebook.com/neil.dimmock.7/posts/pfbid0FNvasB8gob4jrUkrUNh1ZGFCbUJ6phXiBv6faX72ejyT9VrazVxJPjfk7HEZ5g2Ml