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http://www.zfdp.de/erg-kreuth06.php See spaceman also by Silvio II described as being Palomino - cant see it myself though. Another odd colour from that family nonetheless.[/QUOTE]
I do not think that the palomino from Spaceman came from Silvio II. Silvio appears to be classic bay.
I was thinking more that he was just a nice shade of chestnut rather than being palomino.
I would definately say that this horse is palomino. I have NEVER seen a chestnut be that color.
http://www.zfdp.de/images/kreuth06/13-Spaceman.jpg
Pity I cant find his damā¦ its a badly lit photo.
looking at it again. you are right it is a very badly lit photo. The flash could be making the horse appear lighter than he is. But if that is his true color than I would say he is definately palomino.
Its a funny thing, I have found a reference to silver dapple in Swedish warmbloods in a academic paper, but for the life of me I cant find a single example of a horse with it. Maybe I should learn Swedish.
Side note:
Here are the two reasons why I am interested in this:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?a=67b0de21b35df7fe45a4&sid=8AcNnDdu5cOGF1
Angel: silver buckskin
Bella: Angelās daughter, and a silver black
As far as I know, they are the first two paint horses ever confirmed to carry the silver gene.
I would love to find a silver stallion to cross Bella with in the future. Seeing as how conformation and movement are definitely more important then color, I am hoping to find an awesome moving/jumping silver warmblood stallionā¦ It would be a dream come true for myself, and other breeders that have a focus on silver horses that perform. (Or, should I say, sport horses that JUST SO HAPPEN to be silver!)
Revenge is listed as both ābayā and āsilverapple bayā. Try google.nl, and type in āzilverappelā . Lots of pictures, but I donāt know about approved stallions. I did see a true silverapple at the KWPN approvals about five years ago (caused quite a stir-- bay with a blond tail and mane-- but he didnāt make it), so itās in the KWPN gene pool. Somewhere.:winkgrin:
According to a post on bokt.nl, this stallion, Bazuin, carries the silver gene. I searched for images but as the Gelderlander population is largely chestnut, I havenāt found much more.
Here is a VERY silver dapple Groningen mare, Jobica
He is not a silver dapple, but I think he is a silver bay.
Gralshuter, my horseāssire, is Hanoverian.
http://ahconsulting.de/bp-files/v2_gralshuter.jpg
Although a chestnut, my horseās tail is 1/4 silver, plus he has sabino and rabicano markings.
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I have a Google addiction 
I found this guy described as a chocolate palomino, related to the dam through Silvio II.[/QUOTE]
What on earth is a āchocolateā palomino? Is there any such thing? He looks brown or liver. Heās a nice horse!
Chocolate palomino is a dark palomino. A chocolatey color actually. We are pretty sure that this horse is NOT a chocolate palomino but here are some pictures of some true chocolate palominos.
http://www.doubledilute.com/images/chocpalomorgan.jpg
http://www.texasyellowhorse.com/images/9-02-07.jpg
http://www.palominosaddlebred.com/images/bdr-heidi.jpg
Its pretty much a liver chestnut with a cream gene.
Would the END of a horseās tail be blonde/silver, and the rest of the horses body and hair bay with white points? Particularly a young horse (under 4).???
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Would the END of a horseās tail be blonde/silver, and the rest of the horses body and hair bay with white points? Particularly a young horse (under 4).???[/QUOTE]
I am quite confused as to what you mean.
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I am quite confused as to what you mean.[/QUOTE]
Typical bay colored horse. Has some white feet, white facial markings, end of its tail is blonde/yellowish, top is dark hair, horse is under 4 years old. Could it carry the āZā gene?
Reason Iām asking is Canaan Ranchās āWillows Dreamā has what Iāve described above. I believe sheās Oldenburg. Just curiousā¦ I always thought her tail was very interesting in color. Lovely filly :yes:
[QUOTE=RiddleMeThis;2973656]
I am quite confused as to what you mean.[/QUOTE]
Typical bay colored horse. Has some white feet, white facial markings, end of its tail is blonde/yellowish, top is dark hair, horse is under 4 years old. Could it carry the āZā gene?
Reason Iām asking is Canaan Ranchās āWillows Dreamā has what Iāve described above. I believe sheās Oldenburg. Just curiousā¦ I always thought her tail was very interesting in color. Lovely filly :yes:
I recently sold a Silvio Grandson (by Scimitar) out of a plain bay Arabian mare. He was born pale (very pale chestnut) with a very flaxen mane and tail. He also had a weird roan spot on one side. I was told that many chestnuts from the Silvio line have funky colored manes and tails.
Do you have a picture? You could be describing a minimal form of Splash.
Something else occured to me about Iregina, Osilvioās dam - possibly a dark/sooty buckskin? I canāt find pictures of her sire/dam. If thatās what she is, then Osilvio could very well be a sooty palomino, though some of the pictures on his site look awfully bay (with maybe silver) 
Silver Traits
Horses carrying the silver gene have some very distinct traits. Silver ONLY dilutes the color black, so it is only physically reflected on black based horses. (Black, bay, smoky black, buckskin etc.) Red based horses (chestnut, sorrel, palomino) can carry the silver gene, but will not exhibit any physical traits of it. Silver is synonymous with āsilver dappleā but not all silver horses are dappled.
The term āsilverā is actually quite misleading. Silver does not make the body, mane or tail gray. (Someone posted a link to a gray maned stallion earlier.) It WILL make what should be a black mane & tail flaxen, and many times the roots stay dark. The only exception to this is when a horse carries both silver AND cream. Cream seems to cancel out silverās effect on manes & tails.
Silver on a bay horse will dilute the mane & tail to flaxen, and dilute the lower legs to a chocolate or burgundy-ish brown.
Silver on a black horse will dilute the mane & tail to flaxen, and dilute the entire body color to a rich chocolate brown.
Sometimes the gene causes unusual webbing/marbling on the lower legs.
The color is often confused with liver chestnut and chocolate palomino. Both of my silver mares were registered as dun!
You can see some great pictures of silver traits here:
http://www.silverequine.com/index2.htm
Click the link on the left labeled āsilver characteristics.ā
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Do you have a picture? You could be describing a minimal form of Splash.
Something else occured to me about Iregina, Osilvioās dam - possibly a dark/sooty buckskin? I canāt find pictures of her sire/dam. If thatās what she is, then Osilvio could very well be a sooty palomino, though some of the pictures on his site look awfully bay (with maybe silver) [/QUOTE]
I found pictures and I am going to say no. no splash or silver. It looks a lot like sun bleaching. Many of their horses have it all out of and by different mares and stallions. Here is the page
http://www.canaanranch.net/sale%20horses.html
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