I know there is Sabino and Splash but according to the rules it is not allowed, just nobody knew when these genetics were involved. The blue eyes are not allowed and that will happen every now and then with the “overo” genetics.
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And it’s ever changing. My mare was born liver chestnut with a small blanket and now she’s a coppery red roan with liver chestnut spots on her rump. It seems like every spring she sheds out to a different color.[/QUOTE]
Sounds as if she may be varnishing.
I have a 28 yo 1/2 App mare who is varnish with black spots on her butt. Since I’ve only had her since she became aged and was completely varnished, I don’t know if she ever had a blanket on her rump. Any one here willing to make a wild guess? She must have been a chestnut to begin with, though, since in her non white areas, she’s very close to pink. The black spots are puzzling, since I would have thought her blanket spots would have been the same color as her base coat.
Does anyone know what registration options I would have if I bred my Tobiano mare (APHAxTB) to a Knabstrupper? I love this mare and would just be breeding for myself. I grew up riding POA’s and have always loved spots! However, if I’m not able to register the foal anywhere that would be unfortunate. The stallion I’m considering is approved KNN and RPSI.
I just love the look of Paintaloosas!
I’m a dressage rider, so I was so thrilled to discover a spotted warmblood breed.
Thanks for your help.
Maybe Canadian Sport Horse 
if you got a registered stallion.
Doesn’t sound like anything the specific warmblood registries would want. In general they are not looking for stock horse blood in their lines.
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Interesting post…
There is no such thing as PATN2 yet… I just noticed it mentioned somewhere.
And yes there are knabs with SPL 1 in them… I have tested some of ours … and it certainly did not come from the mares.
There’s no test for PATN2 yet, but everyone agrees it’s out there, since there are different patterns for non-PATN1 horses.
What is SPL1? So you mean Splash? That goes by SW - Splash White
I am confused by her “reasoning.” She fell in love with Knabstruppers. So why doesn’t she just buy a Knabstrupper? A proper Danish one, not one of the US version. Surely it wouldn’t be any more expensive to import a Knabstrupper, and a lot less risky, than to breed a pinto (or any other color mare).
I love Knabstruppers too, they are one of my favorite non-gaited breeds. But a TBxPaintxKnabstrupper is not a Knabstrupper. It might not even be a spotted foal.
And JFYI, Paints and pintos are not considered “spotted” anywhere but in the US. In the rest of the horse world, “spotted” means a horse with spots. Knabstrupper, Appaloosa, Tiger Horse, British Spotted Pony, etc.
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Do you mean one inspected and registered by the KNN? There are quite a few KNN inspected and passported Knabstruppers in the US. In the early days of the Knabstruppers in the US there were a few registered with RPSI, since the KNN did not come to the US. In those days some Appaloosa (ApHA) mares were approved for breeding and the foals registered as Knabstrupper with RPSI.
With regards to OP, I don’t believe either KNN or RPSI will register PaintxTBxKnab foal. It was 6 years ago, so I wonder what happened.
OP - did you ever breed your mare?
I don’t know any single person who refers to paints and pintos as spotted outside of the spotted saddle horse registry. Other than that, nope, never in my life heard a horse person in the US refer to a pinto as spotted.
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RPSI approved many “stock breed” mares and registered their foals here in the US. Since Westfalen took over RPSI, I suspect those rules have changed, but it is worth asking the question if you want to do such a breeding. When KNN first came to the US, they were approving Appaloosa mares - so there are US bred Knabbies with Appy in them. I think they have changed that rule, and are no longer approving Appy mares for breeding. Your mare is a Paint, so she would not have been eligible.
You can also check into AWS and AWR.
Remember, a Paint won’t automatically give you a “Pintaloosa”. I am guessing the stallion you are looking at is a Leopard (Colorado?), and the LP is not guaranteed color. So you could end up with a solid color (no pattern), a pinto, an appy pattern, or a pintaloosa. You could also end up with the “LP characteristics” but no actual pattern - aka sclera around the eyes and muzzle, but no spots. Or just a bit of varnish. So if your great desire is color, and you will be disappointed with no color, proceed with caution.
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FYI, if you didn’t notice, this was posted over 6 years ago.
It shows up as Nov 18, 2018 on my computer? So only a week ago? I did see that some of the thread goes back a ways, but I responded to a current question?
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My bad, my apologies. Carry on.
oh, ancient post that got bumped up somehow!
No prob - it STARTED out as an ancient thread. Weird how these things revive themselves, like rising from the dead!:eek: I didn’t even see the beginning of the thread was so old…
Not all Appaloosas are “Stock Horses” and there is Appaloosa blood, even in Danish Knabstruppers. I would worry more about breeding the “type” you are hoping for rather than breeding for color. There is a Knab stallion in Canada who is LP/LP PATN1 isn’t there? Lindegaards Elliott? He’s on Facebook.
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Appaloosa breed, vs appaloosa spotting patterns (LP and PATNx) in a variety of breeds, such as Knabstruppers, Gypsy Vanners, and others.
To clarify, while there have been a few Appaloosa (ApHA) horse’s approved for breeding in the recent past, historically, the Kabstrupper breed had no Appaloosa blood, the vast majority of Knabs have no Appaloosa blood and the KNN registry no longer allows Appaloosas as approved crosses.
i agree - not all Appaloosas are “stock horses” there are quite a few Appaloosas well suited to sports such as dressage, hunters and eventing. Your stallion is a great example.
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