Thanks! Looks like sorrel for her. Pali daddy (Wimpy’s Little Step) doesn’t have a roan parent and definately doesn’t look like the palis on the links above.
Looks like you have a rabicano to me - not a roan. Roans do not have white hairs scattered in the face. The face would be solid.
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Thanks! Looks like sorrel for her. Pali daddy (Wimpy’s Little Step) doesn’t have a roan parent and definately doesn’t look like the palis on the links above.[/QUOTE]
There you have it. Cannot be roan. It is sorrell rabicano
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Roans do not have white hairs scattered in the face. The face would be solid.[/QUOTE]
While it’s not common, it can happen. I’ll find the pictures, but I’ve seen a true roan, tested Rr, not gray (tested Gg) who has a very “grayed out” face. As a foal you’d have SWORN it was going gray.
If you’re unsure, spring for the genetic test.
rr, or no roan markings
Rr, or roan pattern present. This horse will pass along roan pattern to about half of his/her foals. At least one of this horse’s parents was a roan horse.
RR, or roan markings present. This horse will ALWAYS pass along roan markings to his/her foals. Both of this horse’s parents must have carried and shown the roan gene. This type of horse is very rarely found because it is theorized that the fetus dies in-utero when it carries two roan genes. Some exceptions do reportedly exist, so there is controversy as to whether the RR embryo does die or not.
There seem to be 2 different Roan mutations. One of them is embryonic lethal, pretty much proven via birth statistics. Brabant drafts are an example of this.
The other is not EL - the Hancock line of QH’s is very famous for their Roans and homozygous Roan horses 
Tested Gg? Err…isn’t that heterozygous grey?
LOLOL, sorry, bad typo! I really did mean gg
Ok, this isn’t the horse I was originally wanting to find, still looking, but I did find this one.
He IS Roan, is NOT gray, and look at all the white on his face
http://media.horse-for-sale.org/photos/a63/b3/p63314448.jpg
http://media.horse-for-sale.org/photos/a37/b0/p37011348.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/fohlen/Daydream%20Believer/Nov19-05.jpg
Yes, his head is still darker relative to his body, but it’s certainly not solid
OH! LOL, wouldn’t it figure, my next search found the one I was originally looking for LOL
Foal, looking like he’s shedding gray (but he’s not)
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii17/lonesomedovepaints/Little%20Baby%20Pony/7160820.jpg
Reminds me of the appy “varnish roan” thing, JB–any chance of that?
It certainly does look like Varnish, but nope, no appy in sight
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OH! LOL, wouldn’t it figure, my next search found the one I was originally looking for LOL
Foal, looking like he’s shedding gray (but he’s not)
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii17/lonesomedovepaints/Little%20Baby%20Pony/7160820.jpg
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SO ADORABLE!!! I wouldt have expected that drastic change… and it was neat to see the stages!
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Chestnut and sorrel are basically the same, just western people usually call their chestnut horses sorrel and eastern people just call them chestnut.[/QUOTE]
Very true about the east and west, but if someone wanted to be very exact, I was always taught that a sorrel has lighter shading, like a lighter belly, a chestnut is solid, the hair from the topline will be the exact same shade as the hair anywhere else, though sometimes they will have a darker mane and/or tail.
LOL, color geekdom for the curious.
JB those palis are for sure roans? Guess it is harder to tell in pictures but I couldn’t see roan signs on Yellow Rose.
I would like to be able to see a side view to contrast what color his head/face is to the rest of his body.
Wonder if his breeders were expecting a roan or were his babies a surprise?
I have a rabicano chestnut who was solid chestnut at birth. I was surprised when he went “roan” as he shed the foal coat. I discovered his mum was “roan” too when I examined her summer coat carefully (she was palomino and the white hairs weren’t terribly obvious). It was only many years later that I found out he wasn’t roan, but rabicano. Rabicano is characterized by white at the stifle/flank - which I’m not seeing in that baby pic (but could be the angle) so I’d be more inclined to think roan (but then again there’s the need for one roan parent). My boy is fairly minimal rabicano, and his coat is so pale as to look white between his stifle and sheath.
I wouldn’t put too much weight on the pale hairs in the tail at this point - lots of chestnut foals are born with very light hairs in the underside of their tails, and the chestnut colour can get nearly white on their lower legs so much that low white markings can go unnoticed.
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JB those palis are for sure roans? Guess it is harder to tell in pictures but I couldn’t see roan signs on Yellow Rose.
I would like to be able to see a side view to contrast what color his head/face is to the rest of his body.
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Yellow Roan of Texas is very much a pali roan. No question about it. His sire is Peptoboonsmal, a very famous red roan.
Yep, Yellow Rose is a well-known (in those circles) Roan, and his sire is even better known not just for who he is but also for his Roan-ness
Peptoboonsmal doesn’t get any more classically Roan His Roan came from his dam Royal Blue Boon Her page is fun to look at because it shows how light her Summer coat is and how dark her Winter coat is, typical of a Roan.
So no, no surprise there with Yellow!
