Cranbury Auction- Higher End Stock

[Xctrygirl]

Fyi the location has changed.

WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE READ

This Saturday’s special sale will be held at our original location, 43 BRICKYARD ROAD CRANBURY, NJ 08512. There was an issue with the CO on the new sale barn and some of its amenities.

We will be selling all the same horses, tack and equipment.

Tack will start at 10 AM, trailers will be sold at 1 PM and horses will start at 2 PM.

We are sorry for the inconvenience and hope that everybody can still make it. Again, everything will be the same with the sale besides the location. Some great horses selling.

Em

[snaffle635]

Seems like the perfect place to buy a husband-horse. Lots of sweet looking horses.

[enjoytheride]

@snaffle635

Seems like the perfect place to buy a husband-horse. Lots of sweet looking horses.

I think it is the worst possible place you could think of to buy a husband horse! My local low end auction has horses go through all the time that are advertised as safe. If you’re lucky you can see someone ride them in the parking lot. You can’t ride them yourself, you can’t vet them, you can’t do a drug test, etc. There is a horse right now on that website that ran through the same auction 30 days before as unbroke, a different age, and a different breed.

Dealers purchase horses, put an intense and overwhelming 30 days on them, hit them with a bit of bute and some ace, and voila they are broke to ride.

A local dealer picks them up and they are on his website in 24 hours flat for sale for double what he paid with a “this horse is safe for anyone to ride.” He has no actual idea if any of this is true.

Auctions are good places to get cheap horses if you know what you are doing, know what to look for, and can accept what you get if the horse ends up being dangerous or lame. Rescues that work with auctions want you to believe you are getting the next husband horse when you are just as likely to be buying someone else’s problem. Not every horse purchased at an auction ends up winning at Devon.

[WildLittleWren]

I have to agree…an auction is no place to buy a husband or for that matter kid’s horse. You can’t ride them, can’t drug test them, and can’t get a PPE. I have heard horror stories of drugged, lame, dangerous, and sick horses coming from auction. Even if you are experienced and know what you are looking for, you might not end up with what you had hoped.

[findeight]

Auctions like these are not really anyplace to buy a serious show horse either. But you can get jack of all trades type pleasure horses that, with a lot of experience and some luck, can make good, solid citizens. In time.

Nix on the DH horse though , or kids first Horse or anything like that. It’s not a game for novices. And don’t be seduced by sweet looking photos what do you think they are going to put up? Pictures of it kicking the snot out of another or going after a stable hand like a striking rattlesnake? But it takes a sweet picture and it’s a rescue…yeah…right. Be careful.

[Miss_Woodford]

Some of these guys are a bit nicer than what you’d normally find at a low-end auction, i.e. have actual USEF show records. It doesn’t mean they aren’t lame or nuts of course.

I am glad to see that they are all in good flesh with hooves trimmed.

[Xctrygirl]

In the ring now.

[Miss_Woodford]

#1 handsome Spanish horse sold for $21k

#2 E Amelusina R 62 no sell for $16k - reserve was $20k so not sold. Definitely not the right crowd for this kind of horse.

[Xctrygirl]

No saled at 16k. They wanted 20k

They are offering a 3 month warranty.

Em

[Miss_Woodford]

#3 an AQHA champion reiner no sale at $9k, they want $15k. Folks there aren’t the type with the money for nice horses, they want the rescues.

Another no sale on #4 the Friesian Sport Horse at $7.5k (reserve $10k).

[vxf111]

@Xctrygirl

No saled at 16k. They wanted 20k

They are offering a 3 month warranty.

Em

Jesus do I need to go look at this horse?

[Xctrygirl]

@vxf111

Jesus do I need to go look at this horse?

I watched his videos and he’s not my type, but I think I heard someone call in and offer the owner 20 during the live feed. So who knows if he is still available.

Em

[findeight]

@Miss Woodford

#3 an AQHA champion reiner no sale at $9k, they want $15k. Folks there aren’t the type with the money for nice horses, they want the rescues.

And the breed people generally don’t want a 9 year old gelding. May not agree but that’s a fact in much of the breed show world.

If the horse that did go for 20k was one of the first ones going through??? That might not have been regular bidders running it up…more likely prearranged at sales like this. Called a shill in some places, fake bidder. Like a an employee seeding the tip jar with a 20 plus inflates the sale price average making the sale look good.

[snaffle635]

@enjoytheride

I think it is the worst possible place you could think of to buy a husband horse! My local low end auction has horses go through all the time that are advertised as safe. If you’re lucky you can see someone ride them in the parking lot. You can’t ride them yourself, you can’t vet them, you can’t do a drug test, etc. There is a horse right now on that website that ran through the same auction 30 days before as unbroke, a different age, and a different breed.

Dealers purchase horses, put an intense and overwhelming 30 days on them, hit them with a bit of bute and some ace, and voila they are broke to ride.

A local dealer picks them up and they are on his website in 24 hours flat for sale for double what he paid with a “this horse is safe for anyone to ride.” He has no actual idea if any of this is true.

Auctions are good places to get cheap horses if you know what you are doing, know what to look for, and can accept what you get if the horse ends up being dangerous or lame. Rescues that work with auctions want you to believe you are getting the next husband horse when you are just as likely to be buying someone else’s problem. Not every horse purchased at an auction ends up winning at Devon.

fair points. I was responding mainly to the comments about children’s camp and trail horses ending up there.

[maunder]

@findeight

If the horse that did go for 20k was one of the first ones going through??? That might not have been regular bidders running it up…more likely prearranged at sales like this. Called a shill in some places, fake bidder. Like a an employee seeding the tip jar with a 20 plus inflates the sale price average making the sale look good.

It has been alleged that this is happening at this auction often. There has also been serious illness at that location.

[Xctrygirl]

Ok so let’s be fair. No one with half a brain in their head would suggest taking a horse from that sale straight home. Most of us local to the area know to either pay for Quarantine or have a stall on our own property’s that’s far enough away to QT at home… with careful management.

And of course there are shills. I got news for you, there are shills at every kind of auction or public sale that you can imagine. It happens with artwork at Sotheby’s and on OTTB’s at New Holland and every stop in between. This warmblood is a decent sort of horse. I didn’t watch for long beyond him and I got the feeling that it was a sit on your hands type of day.

If you watched the live feed of the auction you’d know the guy running it has his hands in all sorts of cookie pots. If I was interested in any of the horses selling I would likely track who got them and wait 30 days and offer them money after the horse cleared QT. I wouldn’t risk my own money on a possible issue.

Em

[AliCat]

I’m in no way saying Cranbury is a good auction, nor can I say that I’m familiar with sales trends at this place. What I can say with certainty is that this week we are having extremely cold temperatures (15-20 degrees below normal), and it’s not supposed to get better another week. It certainly has impacted my business, and I noticed this sale kept trying to emphasize that they had working heat so I’d assume they know cold keeps people away.

[Xctrygirl]

@AliCat

I’m in no way saying Cranbury is a good auction, nor can I say that I’m familiar with sales trends at this place. What I can say with certainty is that this week we are having extremely cold temperatures (15-20 degrees below normal), and it’s not supposed to get better another week. It certainly has impacted my business, and I noticed this sale kept trying to emphasize that they had working heat so I’d assume they know cold keeps people away.

The place was packed. People were not the issue. People who want to spend big money at a sale that typically has kill buyer prices…maybe not so much.

Em

[WildandWickedWarmblo]

@scrbear11

The price is going to get run up on the nicer horses. I expect the KWPN gelding to go for about $30k - $40k. An almost 20 year old Oldenburg went through a few months ago. He was purchased back by his old owner for $18k.

Good for the old owners!

I bought an old TB mare on the auction grounds of my state a few days before she was to go to auction. She was the best horse i’ve ever owned. That included horses that cost me over $100,000. She was skinny and old, cost $1000 and she filled out and turned out to have great bloodlines and great conformation. It’s all about examining the horse and choosing one that isn’t sick or lame.

[Bogie]

@scrbear11

The price is going to get run up on the nicer horses. I expect the KWPN gelding to go for about $30k - $40k. An almost 20 year old Oldenburg went through a few months ago. He was purchased back by his old owner for $18k.

The KWPN gelding no-saled in the auction for $16K. The reserve was $20K and the horse sold for that later in the day as a direct sale. The older Oldenburg was basically held ransom by the auction house once they knew the old owner wanted him back. The previous owner is an attorney and claims the horse was illegally sent to auction. Through back channels I’ve heard there’s a lawsuit.

I wouldn’t buy a horse from this auction. Sure there are some higher end consignment horses but you don’t get the chance to vet them (as you do in a sport horse auction), or ride them, and there are many, many stories of horses that are not healthy, not sound, not as advertised. The Spanish Norman horse sold for $21K and was advertised as having “third level” movements. Yeah, right. Disney horse with a flowing mane and tail. Built down hill. Not ever going to be a third level horse. So many better ways to spend that kind of $$.

There are always exceptions. I saw a nice papered warmblood go through that auction about a month ago. Contacted the breeder who wasn’t able to take the horse back but did put an interested party in touch with the breeder and they bought her for a song and put her in quarantine. I’ve seen video of her under saddle now and she’s a spectacular mover. But the people who bought her have their own farm and can take a chance that a horse will need considerable time off.

Cranbury is a marketing machine. They get a ton of eyeballs on those horses. It’s also been strongly suggested that the house bids against buyers.