Crazy Parelli Lady Has Left the Building (or not...)

Oy. This vent is the shining example of why I HATE Parelli-ites.

Crazy Parelli Lady has a nice little horse who is just shy of 10 years old and not yet saddle broke. Plays all the games but she just refuses to move forward under saddle. So CPL says she is moving the horse because the current facility is holding her back.

CPL has had this horse since a yearling and has done all her horse learning by books and the interwebs. So, I was constantly told what I was doing wrong with my horse based on her “experience”. For example, I was told that I needed to turn my thoroughbred out 24/7. The same thoroughbred who will run himself into a colic if there are bugs. Nope. He will stay in his stall with a fan when it’s humid, buggy and 90+ degrees outside, TYVM. I was also told that my mare was lame because I use aluminum shoes on her and her body absorbs aluminum through her feet and toxifies her hooves. I would just nod and say “OK”.

Well, moving day came and CPL could not get her horse on the trailer. The mare was not scared, she would just plant and refuse to move forward. Pressure to get her to move forward caused her to rear and flip over. CPL was getting very upset and dramatic, screaming “She’s not going to get on the trailer - I know this mare! She’s just not going to do it and I have no use for a horse I can’t haul!” It was all so over the top. We told CPL multiple times to calm down, take a deep breath and to think positive but she kept breaking down and throwing her hands up. She also didn’t want us using a chain on the mare because she felt that it was cruel. We just wanted it so that the mare would pop herself if she decided to go up and over again. We weren’t going to crank on it. She wanted to keep everything warm and fuzzy instead of making the outside of the trailer an unpleasant place to be. The last thing the mare needed was a hug. She needed a come to Jesus moment.

CPL insisted on using her flimsy rope halter that kept slipping off and the mare broke 4 lead ropes in the process. CPL walked away at one point and by some miracle, my partner and I were able to get the mare on the trailer quiet as could be. You could tell CPL was both relieved that the mare was on the trailer but also miffed that her techniques didn’t work in this case.

I happily watched the trailer pull away and thanked the heavens the CPL and her crazy horse were gone. No longer would we be subject to her rants and raves about how everyone else does the horse thing wrong. That was until I got to the barn last night.

Apparently CPL paid a visit during the day and left me passive-aggressive “love notes” throughout the barn. Notes on stall doors saying “This isn’t how I would clean his stall. You need to concentrate his shavings to the left side.” or “I feed this mare two flakes of hay only because she spreads it around otherwise. You’re feeding too much hay.” A note by the fencer saying “You have to remember to turn the fence on when the horses are outside.” And my favorite general note “Horses need to have water 24/7”. No $h!t Sherlock! All these notes were written on pages from a calendar she tore up and taped with duct tape all over the barn. I was just like “Uhhhh… Your horse doesn’t live here anymore and this is completely inappropriate.” I have a feeling that she just needed to get the last word in considering she was “shown up” in her attempts to get her horse to load quietly.

I’m sad I wasn’t there to intercept this crazy head on. I’m looking forward to seeing what happens when I get to the barn tonight. Hopefully she got whatever she needed to out of her system and she’s gone for good. I do feel sorry for the new barn she’s at because she is a grade A nutter.

The joy felt seeing the trailer tail lights going out the driveway must have been extreme. I have been there a few times and the relief is enormous.

I hope the notes will not continue, that would drive me over the edge. There would definitely be an intervention coming! Enjoy the peace and quiet!

[QUOTE=Snowflake;7744454]
Oy. This vent is the shining example of why I HATE Parelli-ites.

Crazy Parelli Lady has a nice little horse who is just shy of 10 years old and not yet saddle broke. Plays all the games but she just refuses to move forward under saddle. So CPL says she is moving the horse because the current facility is holding her back.

CPL has had this horse since a yearling and has done all her horse learning by books and the interwebs. So, I was constantly told what I was doing wrong with my horse based on her “experience”. For example, I was told that I needed to turn my thoroughbred out 24/7. The same thoroughbred who will run himself into a colic if there are bugs. Nope. He will stay in his stall with a fan when it’s humid, buggy and 90+ degrees outside, TYVM. I was also told that my mare was lame because I use aluminum shoes on her and her body absorbs aluminum through her feet and toxifies her hooves. I would just nod and say “OK”.

Well, moving day came and CPL could not get her horse on the trailer. The mare was not scared, she would just plant and refuse to move forward. Pressure to get her to move forward caused her to rear and flip over. CPL was getting very upset and dramatic, screaming “She’s not going to get on the trailer - I know this mare! She’s just not going to do it and I have no use for a horse I can’t haul!” It was all so over the top. We told CPL multiple times to calm down, take a deep breath and to think positive but she kept breaking down and throwing her hands up. She also didn’t want us using a chain on the mare because she felt that it was cruel. We just wanted it so that the mare would pop herself if she decided to go up and over again. We weren’t going to crank on it. She wanted to keep everything warm and fuzzy instead of making the outside of the trailer an unpleasant place to be. The last thing the mare needed was a hug. She needed a come to Jesus moment.

CPL insisted on using her flimsy rope halter that kept slipping off and the mare broke 4 lead ropes in the process. CPL walked away at one point and by some miracle, my partner and I were able to get the mare on the trailer quiet as could be. You could tell CPL was both relieved that the mare was on the trailer but also miffed that her techniques didn’t work in this case.

I happily watched the trailer pull away and thanked the heavens the CPL and her crazy horse were gone. No longer would we be subject to her rants and raves about how everyone else does the horse thing wrong. That was until I got to the barn last night.

Apparently CPL paid a visit during the day and left me passive-aggressive “love notes” throughout the barn. Notes on stall doors saying “This isn’t how I would clean his stall. You need to concentrate his shavings to the left side.” or “I feed this mare two flakes of hay only because she spreads it around otherwise. You’re feeding too much hay.” A note by the fencer saying “You have to remember to turn the fence on when the horses are outside.” And my favorite general note “Horses need to have water 24/7”. No $h!t Sherlock! All these notes were written on pages from a calendar she tore up and taped with duct tape all over the barn. I was just like “Uhhhh… Your horse doesn’t live here anymore and this is completely inappropriate.” I have a feeling that she just needed to get the last word in considering she was “shown up” in her attempts to get her horse to load quietly.

I’m sad I wasn’t there to intercept this crazy head on. I’m looking forward to seeing what happens when I get to the barn tonight. Hopefully she got whatever she needed to out of her system and she’s gone for good. I do feel sorry for the new barn she’s at because she is a grade A nutter.[/QUOTE]

Oh. My. God…:eek:
Also, pics of the “love notes” pretty please?

This is amazing. Sorry you had to deal with it… But I’m so glad you shared the story, you gave me just the laugh I needed this morning :lol:

[QUOTE=californianinkansas;7744521]
Oh. My. God…:eek:
Also, pics of the “love notes” pretty please?[/QUOTE]

LOL! Unfortunately, I can’t do that. I was so pissed off about it that I walked around, picking them off the stall fronts and walls and crumpling them up as I did so. They got thrown on the burn pile. I was pissed that she did it and even more so that she used the barn calendar which I keep as a log to know when the vet was out, when horses were wormed and when the farrier was last out.

[QUOTE=Snowflake;7744531]
LOL! Unfortunately, I can’t do that. I was so pissed off about it that I walked around, picking them off the stall fronts and walls and crumpling them up as I did so. They got thrown on the burn pile. I was pissed that she did it and even more so that she used the barn calendar which I keep as a log to know when the vet was out, when horses were wormed and when the farrier was last out.[/QUOTE]

what color crayon where they written in?

Hahahahaha oh man… that is hilarious from afar!! Sorry you had to have CPL in your life, but I bet you are glad she is gone!

We have a CPL in our barn… but at least after the first offer of unsolicited advice was met with a hard “no thank you, I don’t follow parelli” - she has backed off…

I have friends that are fans of the P, but none of them would tolerate that crap. That’s batcrap crazy for any one.

If one more note shows up I’d send her a certified letter stating she is not allowed on your property any more. In fact, I’d already consider doing that.

This is amazing. Sorry you had to deal with her… But I’m so glad you shared the story, you gave me just the laugh I needed this morning :lol:

Whoa…the nerve.
And…how many horses have been ruined by the stupidity…I don’t see a good future for the mare.

[QUOTE=Alagirl;7744559]
what color crayon where they written in?[/QUOTE]

hahahahaha

Bat Sh!t Crazy is exactly how I would describe my experience w/these people. Think about it, though: the pepperonis cater to ignorant/new horse people who don’t know better. Real horse people run (poor WAZ excepted).

I’ve been looking for a new young horse. Found a lovely Hanoverian bred gelding. Clicked on the description & it stated that he was level 2/3 Pepperoni. I quit reading, closed the ad, and scratched him from my prospect list.

this is funny to a point, but she’s now trespassing. Here’s hoping she doesn’t devolve to the point you need a restraining order.

[QUOTE=HPFarmette;7744589]
Whoa…the nerve.
And…how many horses have been ruined by the stupidity…I don’t see a good future for the mare.[/QUOTE]

I don’t either considering that her response to pressure to move forward was to rear and flip. She did it multiple times when we were trying to load her. And the mare was not fearful at all. No sweating, no heavy breathing, no eyes bugging. In fact, at one point, the mare was yawning and licking her lips. She could have cared less what we were doing to get her onto the trailer. She was desensitized to a fault.

This worries me considering that the owner says that her issue with her under saddle training is a refusal to move forward. I just hope that she doesn’t resort to her rearing/flipping with a rider on her back. That is a great way to kill someone.

[QUOTE=Snowflake;7744531]
I was pissed that she did it and even more so that she used the barn calendar which I keep as a log to know when the vet was out, when horses were wormed and when the farrier was last out.[/QUOTE]

WHOA it was the barn’s calendar, not hers, and she knew it had this kind of info. That is my last straw. Yes, she wanted to twist the knife.

I always thought the move forward cue was about the first thing you teach a baby horse after you get them comfortable in a halter. Did she miss that step? Or did the Pepperonis miss that step? Just wondering…

Snowflake, are in SW PA by any chance or somewhere near there? I swear, we had the same lady and horse at a barn, except we didn’t get notes, we got emails after she bought the horse.
We tried to get the mare on the trailer for several hours, like 6, maybe even 8 hours :eek: And the entire time she was squawking that she didn’t want the first impression the mare had of her to be negative so we weren’t allowed to do anything but use a bucket of grain and some sedative.
Finally, we had had enough. We made a chute, I made the mare do a million small circles, a friend cracked a whip and the mare jumped on the trailer within 5 minutes. Afterwards we got emails about how we should be more natural and less cowboyish, etc. whatever. :rolleyes:
It was ridiculous. Your story made me think of her.

[QUOTE=risky business;7744513]
I hope the notes will not continue, (…)[/QUOTE]

I’m sorry to say that I DO hope the notes keep appearing…

:lol:

I am so so so so so so so sorry to be this person, but I have been dying to ask for months now. Can someone please explain the whole Parelli thing/why the Parelli followers are nuts? Wikipedia doesn’t do it justice. I need to hear it from a COTHER, preferably a sarcastic/funny one. You can PM me, or direct me to a thread. Once again, so terrbily sorry.

[QUOTE=mortgagemyhorse;7744694]
I am so so so so so so so sorry to be this person, but I have been dying to ask for months now. Can someone please explain the whole Parelli thing/why the Parelli followers are nuts? Wikipedia doesn’t do it justice. I need to hear it from a COTHER, preferably a sarcastic/funny one. You can PM me, or direct me to a thread. Once again, so terrbily sorry.[/QUOTE]

The concept that Parelli started with was actually a good one. It was based on the idea that instead of expecting the horse to understand the human, that the human needed to understand the horse. But, as his methods began to gain popularity, Parelli was overtaken by greed. He wanted to make money and lots of it and started to lose his touch with horses. He found that his cash cows were middle aged women who had long dreamed of owning horses but had no practical experience with them. They had cash and little horse sense so they could be won over to his methods quite easily.

The biggest problem is that they follow him like a cult. They read his books like scripture and sign up for clinics like they’re going to worship. A real horse person knows that there is no one single method of training that works on every single horse. The problem with the Parelli-ites is that they don’t know any other means. They know enough to be dangerous but not enough to get out of a dangerous situation.

Parelli also found that middle aged women also like to treat their horses like spoiled pets and anthropomorphize horses. Thus was born “Horsinalities”. Applying human personality traits to horses. Probably one of the biggest marketing ploys ever.

Nothing will ever replace practical horse experience gained from a well-run equine facility and through competant trainers. That is my recommendation for anyone who wants to get into horses. No books, DVDs or websites are ever going to replace years of working with good horsepeople. But, the gratification is not immediate. Parelli-ites can buy a book and a carrot stick and call themselves a trainer.

[QUOTE=mortgagemyhorse;7744694]
I am so so so so so so so sorry to be this person, but I have been dying to ask for months now. Can someone please explain the whole Parelli thing/why the Parelli followers are nuts? Wikipedia doesn’t do it justice. I need to hear it from a COTHER, preferably a sarcastic/funny one. You can PM me, or direct me to a thread. Once again, so terrbily sorry.[/QUOTE]

Here you may learn an earful or ten about the Parelli system, when it finally did hit the fan, no denying what it is any more, after this came to light:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?247238-is-this-really-linda-parelli&highlight=Is%20this%20Linda%20Parelli