I don’t see any of this in the video of the chestnut, but I’m sure plenty of people here will. I did see the horse try to bury its head in shavings when it was rolling in the stall so maybe it was trying to smother itself to death out of sadness.
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This, and in one of today’s videos she admitted that on most days, the horses do not receive all of those treatments/exercises that were shown in one day.
She also gave the times for each treatment (45 minutes on the walker, 20-something minutes on the water treadmill, 30-something minutes on the regular treadmill, 35 minutes to an hour of riding with the groom present if jumping. She also said that each groom handles 3 to 5 horses, including all grooming and mucking. Given that a groom is present for all the horse’s physical activity, that groom is going to have a hard time getting all that done in one day for 3 to 5 horses before you even factor in hand grazing.
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It answers the first part - video provided. Not chestnut.
Someone else explained really well what I see in that video that makes me think “eh, that horse “looks sad””
Dang it!! It’s probably the one thing I didn’t do!!
I haven’t watched the videos myself. I’m strongly pro turn out (in groups!) but I’ve mentioned up thread that I’m not too up in arms over this lady.
But no one was giving any concrete examples so I thought I would contribute.
I appreciate your post - it was certainly the only one so far that is along the lines of what I was looking for. If Dani turned her horses out and showed that same exact video, no one would come away from watching it and say that the horse looks sad and dead inside. And if the horse had shown some signs of expression (a little bit of head tossing, alertness, maybe some jigging), they’d say the horse is anxious and needs to be turned out. But since the horse isn’t doing any of those things, it must be sad. Honestly, no matter what Dani does, the people who want to be outraged will twist whatever they see so that they can continue to be outraged. Whatever.
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There are horses turned out in the background of the video?
If it’s just the case that she does not turn out actively competing horses during their heavy show season then sharpen your pitchfork because at least 2 of our likely team members do the SAME THING and at least one walks on water according to this board.
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She said it’s just the young horses and the retired horses who are turned out (unless there’s another rider on the same property who does turn out, who’s to say?).
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I was wondering this, as I watched the video. I’m by no means endorsing the practice, but I waa wondering how common it was among some of our “greats” for their competition horses.
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Just because something is a common practice doesn’t make it right.
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Yeah but there’s a whole level of hatred for this person that is above and beyond her not turning her horses out. I’ve never seen the sort of meangirl digressions going on here over other people with questionable horsemanship skills.
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What really got me was that none of the exercises (besides being actually ridden) were done outside. I’m probably naive, but I’d never seen a walker actually inside a barn before. I am sure it’s convenient, but I am sure it would be better if the horses had some outside stimuli.
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Agreed. That was my main takeaway as well that the horses never really got to just be in the sun which I would think would have an effect on the mental and physical health because of the whole Vitamin D thing. Maybe that’s only people and I’m anthropomorphizing as well. I would love a vet’s perspective on this day in the life.
Otherwise, I have no dog in this fight. I don’t follow show jumping and my horses are out 24/7 rain, snow, sun or wind.
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There’s a morgan trainer around here who thought turnout was over rated. I’m paraphrasing here “so what, they live in a box but get their meals provided so it can’t be all bad.” All of her horses had bad attitudes and stall vices.
No joke. I sense a lot of green eyed jealousy.
Yes this is a very not poor person with a very nice lifestyle. I am sure if her horses showed up at the arena sporting bite marks from playing with their turnout buddies, people which pitch fits as well.
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I have none cares about her feathers, nor her fashion choices. They have nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Nor am I jealous of her having 600 horses. That sounds like the world’s biggest migraine.
I find it appalling that so many people are defending her decision to offer her competition horses absolutely zero turnout.
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Meanwhile, Double H just posted the cutest video of one of their horses enjoying turn out in a huge field. Great caption and hashtags.
This is how it should be. Whatever turn out means to you (g), group, solo, sand, grass, 1 hour or 24, turn. Your. Horse. Out.
That is all.
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You know what’s interesting, over the last several days Emily Moffitt answered questions about some of her top competition horses. These are horses that jump 5* grand prixs. Guess what? They all get the turnout as well.
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Just a passing thought, as I agree with turning horses out (and put my money where my mouth is outside of being a keyboard jockey by harping on it to the few boarders who dont turn out).
We all know horses thrive on routine. Is it fair then, for those ultra elite horses who travel for months at a time, to include turnout? Not every show ground is going to be able to safely accomodate, so the horse is turned out on again- off again.
Not saying one way or another. Just a thought.
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