"Devorah Aikman"-TB rescue- arrested on Animal Cruelty

[QUOTE=Devorah Aikman;5270977]
This is what the Lord told me at the beginning of this ordeal.

“Who shall lay any charge to God’s elect? It is God who justifies and God who condemns.”

He has allowed this all to happen for a purpose.

He is gathering all of those who hate him together.

Watch and see.

It was hatred and jealosy that caused someone to make those first bogus claims against me that got this ball rolling. You can see the hate in these forums, so thick you can cut it with a knife.[/QUOTE]

And I wish her lots of therapy and medication to help her with her bigoted homophobia. And hope that there will be some divine intervention that results in her inability to have animals since the evidence stongly suggests that she does not know how or refuses to care for them.

My close friends who truly do believe in ‘the man’ certainly don’t spew the type of hatred and arrogance that has been repeatedly demonstrated by Devorah Aikman.

[QUOTE=Devorah Aikman;5270977]
It was hatred and jealosy that caused someone to make those first bogus claims against me that got this ball rolling. You can see the hate in these forums, so thick you can cut it with a knife.[/QUOTE]

Well…by starting the other thread (that’s in limbo) and by responding on this one, you set yourself up. If you left this alone it would have went away. But you didn’t. Case closed.

Gee. I’m sorry that your hurt and bitterness make you an arrogant homophobe. Not sure how they are related but whatever.

He has allowed this all to happen for a purpose.

He is gathering all of those who hate him together.

Watch and see.

Ruh-roh!!

[QUOTE=alg0181;5271016]
Someone missed the point ;)[/QUOTE]

Really, I mean it has been tough to go through this and then get bashed in the horse community as well.

Time to let you all get on with some more significant conversations. Thanks again.

Quite.

[QUOTE=Devorah Aikman;5270977]
This is what the Lord told me at the beginning of this ordeal.

“Who shall lay any charge to God’s elect? It is God who justifies and God who condemns.”

He has allowed this all to happen for a purpose.

He is gathering all of those who hate him together.

Watch and see.

It was hatred and jealosy that caused someone to make those first bogus claims against me that got this ball rolling. You can see the hate in these forums, so thick you can cut it with a knife.[/QUOTE]

Well there ya go. You so angered someone enough with your self righteous and insulting attitudes - probably a homosexual :wink: - that perhaps that motivated them to follow up on making sure your animal care practices (or lack therof) were investigated.

I can’t spew the bible thumping verbiage but I do know this one- what goes around comes around. You might want to think long and hard about that.

[QUOTE=Belair;5270949]
But you’re not suffering for his sake. You’re suffering for your own.[/QUOTE]

BINGO…where did I put the cigars???

Tamara in TN

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[QUOTE=CFFarm;5270936]
And just how responsible is it for a place that is supposed to take in unwanted horses is breeding?[/QUOTE]

Oh for goodness sakes. It depends on the quality, no? From what I understand, at least one of the two stallions auctioned off is intending to be bred. By your logic, he should not be bred by his now-current owners either.

Honestly, I have taken in some incredible “unwanted” horses and would have no issue with breeding some of them given their superior quality. Not to mention the fact that while I may be taking in unwanted horses, I am not necessarily breeding said unwanted horses (if they are not up to par) specifically, I might be breeding other horses I currently have. For the record, I am not currently breeding, but just point out the obvious. I doubt I am the only one with such horses and Devorah may or may not be in such a position, but I doubt you know for a fact who and what she is or is not breeding and why or to whom. Not to mention it is unclear as to which horses she is breeding and which were “given” versus which were “purchased” (albeit perhaps for cheap). Not that any of that matters if the quality (etc) is there.

Like I said, I know virtually nothing of this situation so I am not necessarily standing up FOR Devorah, but this wolf’s attack is just sickening. Where is your common sense, people?? Horses DO lose weight quickly, the courts, legal system, and various societies can be a wreck to deal with, people DO work away from home and leave their animals in the care of others, and breeding in this economy may or may not be a wise decision, depending on the program.

I know of one situation where an individual’s animals WERE seized wrongfully. It has been well over a year now and a massive mess for this person to contend with, including jail time, despite their innocence. It sickens me to no end to know what this person is going through - I do not understand how they have been able to perservere through it all. To read the papers and listen to some people you would assume the individual in question were guilty. Luckily I know this person personally (have my ENTIRE LIFE) and KNOW otherwise. There are all sorts of loopholes and such and the SPCA/HSUS can be downright vindictive and illegal at times. That may or may NOT be what is occuring here, however how do any of us have an ACCURATE opportunity to judge?? I do not find it fair to judge someone based solely on heresay and individually-drawn conclusions.

Perhaps I am one of the only ones though.

Devorah, if you do not mind my asking. I do not really wish to be involved in this all however I have been following it to an extent and I am confused as to the timeline.

When did you leave, when were the horses seized and then later moved, when were the 9 returned to you, what is the time between all this, and when were each of those photos taken?? I AM a bit confused because I feel that the photos taken of the chestnut with the star and strip represented a horse a little overly thin in my mind for 36 hours without food - something that could have developed over a period of two weeks (had that happen to me recently) but not over the course of a day and a half without food. Is this the horse with previous problems (ie. the flipped spleen and such)? Or were those photos taken two weeks or so after seizure?

I am just legitimately curious. Either way, I am not here to judge, but that was really the only primary cloudy part to me I have been curious about. If you don’t mind humouring me. I am a very visual person so was sort of looking for a written/visual timeline, since it has been difficult to piece everything together otherwise.

Thank-you!!

[QUOTE=Belair;5270949]
But you’re not suffering for his sake. You’re suffering for your own.[/QUOTE]

This. You fail theology forever, Devorah.

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She appears to have been BANNED.

And women often wonder why I won’t date Jesus freaks…

Do you have any proof of these charges?

It is the LAW in Texas. A JP can order the horses sold at public auction. The owner has 10 days to appeal. If the owner doesn’t appeal or the appeal is dimissed, the horses can be sold. If the owner appeals, the court clerk has 5 days to send the paperwork for an appeal to the appropriate people. And there will be an appeal hearing within 10 days. There was a hearing, the horses were ordered sold, you appealed, the appeal was dismissed. The law was followed.

Again, it is the Texas law - if the horses are ordered sold at auction, they must be sold at a public auction. That generally means no restrictions.

You have to follow the rules of the court. This means you don’t get to get into an argument with the prosecutor or witnesses. At the hearing, you should have been offered a chance to speak on the stand but the prosecutor had the opportunity to object when warranted. Either you or your attorney should have been able to question the witnesses - not argue with them.

Alrighty then… so much for that concept.

Very sorry for the delay in banning the charming Ms. Aikman; ill-timed stall cleaning delaying forum housekeeping.

Regardless of her behavior here and elsewhere, which will be recorded for posterity, please avoid further posting on the thread to help her “see the light.” If there’s an interest in discussing the case, in general, that’s absolutely fine, but let’s avoid bumping it with personal commentary about her distasteful behavior.

Thanks,
Mod 1

[QUOTE=LexInVA;5271076]
And women often wonder why I won’t date Jesus freaks…[/QUOTE]

well the majority of believers are not nearly so noxious;)
it was a poor example

Tamara in TN

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[QUOTE=Chester’s Mom;5271074]
She appears to have been BANNED.[/QUOTE]

Oops. I guess there really is a God up there.

Unbelievable
Thank you mod for stepping in.
WOW

You know, that’s pretty doggone fast. I bet that’s helpful for shelters/rescues who are caring for the animals - as well as for defendants who want their animals back as quickly as possible.

Her appeal was dismissed because of a failure on the part of the appellant.

Maybe it isn’t God who is speaking to her.

[QUOTE=Tamara in TN;5271092]
well the majority of believers are not nearly so noxious;)
it was a poor example

Tamara in TN[/QUOTE]
:yes:

Better late than never! Thanks Mods!