I am lovin this post! You have inspired me to search and try and contact the breeders of my horses. It’s something I’ve thought of but I thought people would think I was nuts. How wonderful to know so many care.
Off to google I go.
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I wrote my horse’s stud farm - to ask for a picture of his sire - Honor and Glory - never received anything, not even acknowledgement that I requested a photo and I offered to pay…so there ya go…
Here you go:
I called the number I found on switchboard.com for the same name as my horse’s breeder. The guy wasn’t the breeder, but he knows them and thought they’d want to talk with me. He took my phone number and the horse’s registered name. Hopefully, they’ll contact me. :winkgrin:
How can you go about finding who the breeder was of a TB? I have a friend looking to find out where exactly her OTTB came from. She aquired him from a rescue and was given very little info aside. His name is: Cool Hero
There are 2 COol Heros listed
Registered Thoroughbred
Name: Cool Hero
Dam: Coolbythepool
Certificate Issued Date: 9/15/04
Foaling Year: 2004
Sex: Colt
Breeder: Town & Country Farms Corp.
DNA Sample: Posted
Registered Thoroughbred
Name: Cool Hero
Dam: Icy Reef
Certificate Issued Date: 5/14/96
Foaling Year: 1995
Sex: Horse
Breeder: Henry J. Taub
DNA Sample: Frozen blood sample is likely to be available
I’m guessing it’s the second Cool Hero if the horse came from a rescue. There’s a Henry J. Taub in Houston, TX. Infospace says his phone number is 713-733-1008.
Good luck and report back!
Thank you Sing and hobie! He is the second one listed. I am passing this info on to my friend.
update mortly!
so mortly, have you heard back? keep us posted.
I used to breed TBs for the track and I definitely try to keep track of where they went and where they are now. Some I know where they are, and some I have lost.
I bred one colt a few years ago, and I lost track of him, and was kind of afraid to find out what happened to him.
Then one day I was looking at some eventing results and a horse with that name was end of year champion. I tried to locate the owners, but got no response from them and after a while found the eventing trainer who had bought him off the track - “best horse she ever had” she said …
at any rate, last summer I went to a HT and saw him there. I was so happy to see him (I’d like to see him a bit fatter) but the young girl who has him now obviously loves him, and he does really well at eventing. I was quite teary that day.
Another filly I sold as a yearling is still owned by the trainer who claimed her (second owner after me) and is a broodmare for her. She and I call each other once in a while. Others I have bought back, and others I often wonder where they are. I would LOVE it if their new owners would contact me.
One of my broodmares was owned and bred by George Steinbrenner - I often thought of calling him up…
Anyone know a vet named Laurence J. Littman in PA? He bred my TB, Noble’s Lil’ Falcon. Noble’s Lil Girl was the dam and had 3 or 4 other foals- I’d be curious as to her whereabouts and such, especially since my guy was some wild sabino markings.
some do, some don’t
I know a few breeders/trainers who do really care and of course there are plenty that don’t. I would say there’s a good chance that since your horse didn’t end up at the slaughterhouse his breeder/owner does care. It’s very possible that they would love to hear that he is happy and well and in a new loving home doing something productive. My neighbor trained a horse that ended up at the slaughterhouse and we tried to get her out before it was too late. He was contacted and he said he would put up $100 towards her purchase but he didn’t want her back. He didn’t own the horse but did train her for a bit. He trains a lot of horses and is a breeder too so he could have offered nothing. Sadly it was too little too late to help this poor girl.
I’m a sentimental slob so I would say go for it, you’ve got a name and you could probably find her easily enough. The Jockey Club might help or you might just put her name into a Google search and ad the word race or race horse, breeder or whatever else you can think of and I bet you come up with something to trace her especially if you can find her home state.
Article from this week’s TB Times
A relavant article:
TB Times 4-10-06 “Stakes winner saved from slaughter, returned to birthplace”
Notable Frosty will spend the rest of his life at Golden Hawk Farm
April 10, 2006 - Thoroughbred Times
After Notably Frosty passed through the hands of more than a half-dozen owners since 2003, the striking gray gelding finally earned a trip home when he caught the eye of Kelly Young at the New Holland Sales Stables on April 3.
Young regularly has attended the Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, sale for the past 13 years and frequently sees Thoroughbreds purchased for slaughter. Her not-for-profit organization generally has enough money to buy one horse a week. Although she did not know the name or racing accomplishments of the gray gelding in the ring on April 3, she entered the bidding.
“I felt an immediate connection to him when he walked into the ring,” said Young, director of Lost and Found Horse Rescue Foundation in York, Pennsylvania. “It was just me and the meat man bidding, and I knew I was supposed to have this horse. I had no idea who he was. He had a ton of presence about him, and I knew he didn’t deserve this fate.”
Young soon learned the horse’s name: Notably Frosty, a ten-year-old Alaskan Frost gelding who won two stakes races and $401,896 in a seven-season career. Thanks to Young’s winning $525 bid, the gelding is headed for retirement at his breeders’ Ocala farm instead of a slaughterhouse.
Notably Frosty’s papers came with him, so Young contacted Chris Heyde of the Animal Welfare Institute in Washington, D.C., and Heyde looked up the gelding’s history. Young soon was able to find Notably Frosty’s breeders, Patti and Arthur “Hawk” Hawkesworth Jr.
The Ocala couple sold Notably Frosty privately for $88,000 in 2001 after he made 20 starts and earned $95,320 for them and Don Ferland. Notably Frosty won the $40,000 Park Heights Claiming Stakes later that year at Pimlico Race Course and the $40,000 HBPA Jefferson County Stakes at Charles Town Races in 2002 for owner-trainer John Alecci.
Notably Frosty was claimed for $40,000 on May 15, 2003, at Pimlico, and the then-seven-year-old gradually descended the claiming ranks. No doubt slowing down after more than 50 career starts, he still proved popular at the claims box, changing hands eight more times.
The Hawkesworths kept track of Notably Frosty’s career, but he fell off their radar screen sometime after he finished second in a $4,000 claiming race at Charles Town on October 13 for owner-trainer Donald Poper in the final start of his career.
Ecstatic to hear their horse had been saved, the Hawkesworths agreed to let him live at their Golden Hawk Farm. Patti Hawkesworth cried when Young told her about finding the gelding.
“When he was a baby, he was the only colt we had that year,” Patti Hawkesworth said. “He grew up in a field by himself, and he used to play with my dog and play with the tractor. I want to find a way to get him back in the same paddock he grew up in. This is the greatest story in the world.”
A self-described backyard breeder, Arthur Hawkesworth Jr. bred multiple stakes winner and 1984 Kentucky Derby (G1) starter Rexson’s Hope. The couple has 19 horses at Golden Hawk. Three of those 19 are retirees, including Cruise the Sea, a 1982 Cruise On In horse who suffered a fractured sesamoid during a race in his juvenile season where he led eventual Florida Derby (G1) and Breeders’ Cup Classic (G1) winner Proud Truth.
After a brief attempt at a career as a stallion, Cruise the Sea has been living with the Hawkesworths since 1984. “He still likes to run or limp around out there,” Arthur Hawkesworth said.
“Frosty was good to us,” he continued, before his wife completed the thought, “and now we’re going to be good to him. It’s as simple as that.”–Pete Denk
I have been trying to locate my OTTB breeders for sometime but i never find a full adress. Had any one heard of Nacy Yearsley and J. Garvan Kelly(EIRE Farm in Oklahoma)? My horse’s trainer/owner??? was Bill Morey from Golden Gate Fields. Has anyone heard of either of these names before?
Nancy Yearsley
Hi, Nancy Yearsley is a bloodstock agent and also has Yearsley Insurance in Lexington and California . She and Garvan owned the Argentinian stallions Paranoide, Gold Spring, and Pancho Press, and I believe Moscow Ballet. I have a Paranoide filly, two Gold Springs and Pancho Press is living the high life in Grand Haven Michigan. Nancy ALWAYS loves hearing about any horse she’s had a connection with.
Well, I did send off a letter but haven’t heard anything. Not that I really expected to, I’m pretty sure Mrs. Whitham has better things to do!! I just figured I’d let her know where he is and that he’s happy!
good for you mortly. I hope you hear back.
re Frosty - it’s great that the TT published that nice article - it is important to raise awareness of what can and does happen. All those starts, including a 2nd in his last start - so he was still trying his heart out - and he was still sold to the kill pen.
How does his owner/trainer Poper justify that?
You guys have me on a roll. I purchased a OTTB named T.B.'s Storm last year. I found out the his trainer’s name (Scott Lake) to see if the horse sustained a racing injury and to find out what type of a horse to deal with T.B.'s Storm was. I also found out my horse’s breeder’s name was Theodore J. Bottomley (FL), but could not find any information. I would like to contact him also, guess like everybody else here to find out more about their horse. Any body have any leads? Thank you!
What a great thread!
I’ve been able to find out barn names for two OTTBs – one mine and one a friend’s – by contacting the breeders/owners at birth. Buzz was owned by an AQHA breeder who bought his mom already bred. The guy that they sold him to had never given him a barn name, but when he was a yearling, they called him Buzz because he was always buzzing everywhere and into everything! He was still like that as a five year old! :lol: So, that is what we decided to call him. The lady was delighted to hear where he had ended up, even though their breeding program was for english pleasure AQHA hunters and they sold the two TBs at the Ocala yearling sales (planning to breed the moms to their AQHA stallion), she still really cared where he had ended up and even sent me baby pics of him.
On my friend’s OTTB, he was listed as bred by some florida breeders who were absolutely delighted to talk to me and remembered the horse and his barn name, which his new owner uses for him. They follow all of their babies racing results as far as they can and have bought at least one back to retire them – she said sometimes they just fall off the radar and they can’t find them later. But, she was so happy to hear that he got a great home!
In Sam’s case, I was able to contact the farm that bred him (Fares Farm in Lexington) and oddly enough, even though the whole operation has really changed since Mr. Fares’ death, the super nice lady in the office remembered his name, and was able to pull his file and give me a lot of info, including the phone number of the trainer who had him first in Texas. He was able to fill me in on some of the missing years in his race record and some more info.
In Ben’s case, he was bred to be racing QH – despite 6 homes between his breeder and me, I was able to find her and she wanted pics and everything. She put me in touch with the man that had bought his mom and I stayed in touch with him until he lost her to colic. It helped so much to have found the breeder because she could explain all his scars and why he didn’t make it to the track. (Jumped a four foot gate as a 18 month old and had a “hard rub” that removed most of the skin from the knee down. Ouch! – it did properly predict his affinity for jumping later, though!
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Everyone I talked to was incredibly nice and it was so worth the trouble to track people down – somehow it helps me to know what their “stories” are.
Libby
What a great thread!
I’ve been able to find out barn names for two OTTBs – one mine and one a friend’s – by contacting the breeders/owners at birth. Buzz was owned by an AQHA breeder who bought his mom already bred. The guy that they sold him to had never given him a barn name, but when he was a yearling, they called him Buzz because he was always buzzing everywhere and into everything! He was still like that as a five year old! :lol: So, that is what we decided to call him. The lady was delighted to hear where he had ended up, even though their breeding program was for english pleasure AQHA hunters and they sold the two TBs at the Ocala yearling sales (planning to breed the moms to their AQHA stallion), she still really cared where he had ended up and even sent me baby pics of him.
On my friend’s OTTB, he was listed as bred by some florida breeders who were absolutely delighted to talk to me and remembered the horse and his barn name, which his new owner uses for him. They follow all of their babies racing results as far as they can and have bought at least one back to retire them – she said sometimes they just fall off the radar and they can’t find them later. But, she was so happy to hear that he got a great home!
In Sam’s case, I was able to contact the farm that bred him (Fares Farm in Lexington) and oddly enough, even though the whole operation has really changed since Mr. Fares’ death, the super nice lady in the office remembered his name, and was able to pull his file and give me a lot of info, including the phone number of the trainer who had him first in Texas. He was able to fill me in on some of the missing years in his race record and some more info.
In Ben’s case, he was bred to be racing QH – despite 6 homes between his breeder and me, I was able to find her and she wanted pics and everything. She put me in touch with the man that had bought his mom and I stayed in touch with him until he lost her to colic. It helped so much to have found the breeder because she could explain all his scars and why he didn’t make it to the track. (Jumped a four foot gate as a 18 month old and had a “hard rub” that removed most of the skin from the knee down. Ouch! – it did properly predict his affinity for jumping later, though!
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Everyone I talked to was incredibly nice and it was so worth the trouble to track people down – somehow it helps me to know what their “stories” are.
Libby
This is a very inspiring thread, I would love to have some more information about the OTTB I bought from Penn National last year.
His JC name is Turkish Lad, he was bred by Paul Esposito of Casino Royale Farms in Pennsylvania. The owner on his papers before me was Caroline Allen, I don’t know who owned him before that. I have been googling and haven’t been able to find any contact information for Paul Esposito or even any info about Caroline. Does anyone know anything about Casino Royale Farms, or have contact information?
Thank you!
My mare, I believe, must have been named after her breeder. Her name is Lookin For Bernie and her breeder is Bernard Flynt who’s now a trainer. I thought about contacting him, especilly after Bernie gave me a beautiful Anglo-Trakehner filly, but never did.