I’m in week 3 of daily Gastrogard. It’s making a difference in her behavior. Question: do I run full dose to end of Week 4 or do I start to taper off?
I do 4 full weeks, scope the horse to confirm healing, and then taper over two more weeks. In several cases, it’s taken 8 weeks to heal the ulcers, then 2 weeks to taper.
Well I have 4 weeks, and not sure when I can get horse scoped…
I’ve always been told that a taper is necessary to avoid acid rebound. I’ve also seen that borne out in the horses I’ve treated–stopping cold turkey resulted in returning discomfort/in some cases a recurrence of the ulcers.
Treat for 4 weeks for sure. After that, it’s debatable whether 4 weeks is long enough to cause a rebound effect - some say it does for their horse, plenty have come off cold turkey.
Earlier this year I did the scope, 28-day treatment, rescope (and one more week to clear up a patch of minor discolouration that was left) and my vet told me to just stop the Gastrogard. I asked about the rebound problem and he said with a shorter length of treatment like this, it’s not necessary - maybe if they’ve been on it for longer term.
AFAIK Dr Ben Sykes is working on some research to look into the rebound theory. So, the “need” for it isn’t yet proven, only theory.
You could always do 4 weeks, and then use Nexium to taper off. If rebound isn’t an issue, you haven’t spent a ton, and if it is, Nexium anecdotally seems to work just fine. This is what I’ve done when using Ulcergard for shows.
What’s the advantage of Nexium? It’s a very similar proton pump inhibitor. Is it way cheaper than Gastrogard?
Esomeprazole (Nexium) is a stronger “cousin” to omeprazole, so yes, a PPI. You could do a whole 30 days of the highest studied dose (12-14 capsules/tabs for an average horse) for $500-ish, so yeah, way, way cheaper. And you could potentially treat with a much lower dose than that.
Where do you get it?
I just get the generic from Target. You can also get name brand Nexium from Target or any drugstore/grocery store/Amazon
We dont have Target in Canada
Whoops forgot you’re in Canada. Amazon may have it, and I can get it from any drugstore or grocery store. “Esomeprazole magnesium” not just plain ‘omeprazole’
So the human box is 14 caps per box. You’d feed one box a day then. So in Canada $15 a day. Yes, cheaper. But I bet getting the pills into the horse is a challenge!
Here’s a post I made on this in the giant Nexium thread:
The highest dose used in the studies I know of was 2mg/kg.
Here’s a copy/paste from another thread the other day. Hopefully the links also copy over:
One looked at a 40mg and 80mg dose and found the same effectiveness
One looked at a 2mg/kg dose to compare to the omeprazole 4mg/kg dose
One looked at .5mg/kg dose to compare to 1mg/kg omeprazole, and found the same pH results
And one looked at .5 and 2mg/kg doses of omeprazole to compare the 2
that’s from this thread
Ulcery after every show? - Horse Care - Chronicle Forums (chronofhorse.com)