My dog’s breeder bred a litter some years ago with two sires; one deceased dog via frozen semen and one live cover (if I recall). She had a “Who’s Your Daddy” party after the puppies were born and people made wagers on the sires, then they did the DNA to see who was right. I didn’t make it but it sounded like a lot of fun! (I believe the puppies were about 50/50 from that litter, although a friend who did a similar breeding recently had 100% from the frozen.)
Really? I am not surprised by the bull terrier part. I think he looks a bit bull terriery. Regardless, he is pretty darn cute whatever he is.
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And from what I’ve heard it has more to do with field breeders adding in a “little touch of something else” to make the hunting dogs more competitive with other pointing breeds. (Some of the AFC/NFC dogs have been pretty darn gigantic and not very “typey” looking…if you know what I mean.) I have no idea if those rumors are true, but I suspect that the DNA tests are not really for the show breeders.
http://clubs.akc.org/brit/2012/ABCNationalAmateurChampionship_winners.jpg
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:eek: Wowza no kidding not very typey. I know working-bred BCs look vastly different from ring-bred BCs but the working-bred don’t look like mixes. If I saw the middle guy walking down the street I’d think mix (like pointer/britt spaniel).
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We adopted a pup that the shelter listed as a dachshund/ACD mix. She looks nothing like either - a TALL but small 19lb dog with hilariously huge, floppy ears. Short album here: http://imgur.com/a/mvW3Z.
The shelter was adamant that the mother was a dachshund. While the father was unknown, the owners of the dach had a neighbor with an intact ACD, so that was the guess for the father.
Regardless, I was so sick of people informing me she was a chihuahua on steriods that I got the Wisdom Panel kit. Lo and behold, she is indeed a dach/ACD mix! She’s not pure half and half, but the mother was predominantly dach and the father was predominantly ACD. The rest of her background is too mixed to detect, but they gave me a list of “possible” breeds, which included chinese crested, bulldog, american water spaniel, welsh terrier, and duck tolling retriever Ha![/QUOTE]
OMG - the ears on your dog! :lol: They are awesome!
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I need to DNA my dog in order to compete at the nationals.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/972057_632833680067840_764929219_n.jpg
Does anyone know if the AKC kit will give the same type of results as the ones mentioned above?
http://classic.akc.org/store/products/index.cfm?category_cde=DNA&product_view=thumb
I’ll be happy to share my results when we get them. There shouldn’t be any surprises since we know his history for 5+ generations…[/QUOTE]
The test kits from AKC are not the same as the DNA “what breed is my dog” kits from the other place. The AKC kits are to establish a DNA type; the DNA markers for your dog; not to determine “what breed” but for use in parent verification. Same DNA typing horse registries use for establishing a DNA type for stallions/mares and parent verification for foals.
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Really? I am not surprised by the bull terrier part. I think he looks a bit bull terriery. Regardless, he is pretty darn cute whatever he is.
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Then how do you explain the hound/ bird dog head? Not to mention the pointing and hound voice?
I thought the shelter’s guess was pretty good!
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:eek: Wowza no kidding not very typey. I know working-bred BCs look vastly different from ring-bred BCs but the working-bred don’t look like mixes. If I saw the middle guy walking down the street I’d think mix (like pointer/britt spaniel).[/QUOTE]
I’d think English setter/Pointer… 
I have an oversized (aka gigantic) Brittany; he outgrew the breed standard by 3"…even though he has AKC Ch. pedigree for generations. BUT - he looks like a Brittany. Just a really big one.
That dog…not so much.
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I know with cats can have multiple fathers in the same litter. I would assume that if a female dog in heat was covered by a couple of males over the course of a couple of days or in one day the puppies could have different fathers.[/QUOTE]
Yes, true, but in this case the tests agreed on the ACD was one parent. Since I know the mother dog is not ACD, sire is ACD. momma dog appears to be a Brittany X and that is what the sibling’s DNA said. in my dog’s test the “mixed parent” came back Wire Doxie X Westie.
these tests are designed to detect dogs that are actually half purebred- and most mutts are not. Most mutts are just mutts. So the tests give nonsensical looking results. If however, your dog is actually a cross between two purebreds they seem to get pretty good results. I sent a DNA sample from a dog with a known purebred mother to three different companies and they all ID’d the dog as being half purebred of the correct breed. They did not, in general, agree very well about the other half- the other half was a mutt, obviously.
Visual guesses about “The ancestry of mutts” are usually wrong, because they are, well, mutts and their ancestors were mutts. Purebreds are descended from mutts, not the other way around.
And even mixing different breeds- you usually start to tend towards a generic mutt look fairly quickly. One older study where they were cross-breeding purebreds in order to study behavior the dogs started looking remarkably different from each other and their parents only two generations out- for example, you’d have two puppies that were closely related and known to be 1/4 basenji and 3/4’s terrier and they would look nothing alike and would look nothing like their parent breeds.
We have two dogs. The, known, ACD/JRT mix came back as just that, so accurate on her. The other dog is a true “mystery mutt”, though Border Collie is an obvious influence. She came back as 25% Min Pin, 25% Italian Greyhound, 12% Border Collie and then a long laundry list of other breeds in much lesser amounts. Hers cannot possibly be accurate, she is big, 70 lbs, long and tall!! She can’t be 1/2 toy breeds ;). I’m assuming that the tests do better with fewer breeds in the mix.
