Can you fundraise without using the name of the foster org? Just say the dog is a needy foster dog with X, Y, Z problems and go from there?
Adopt him yourself if you need to, fundraise, get the work done, and then adopt him out of even let someone else “foster” him from there.
Hospice care for 2 weeks. Report that he died.
Get him neutered and his mouth done and don’t foster w/this group again.
I know not truthful but they have put you between a rock and a hard place.
Bells, I cannot believe you are writing this on a public board.
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So… they’ve talked about euthanizing him, but they won’t attempt a neuter because he might die under anesthesia? Something is not adding up here…
(And no, OP, I’m not accusing YOU of lying 
)[/QUOTE]
It’s adding up to an organization that’s probably stretched thin, and definitely not “life at all costs”, likely having made the decision that this older, dentally expensive dog should be put down. Appropriate use of resources and all that.
If that’s it, they really shouldn’t have left OP with that choice. They should just have said, oh poor dog, your vet found all that, bring him right back here. Ta ta.
Why? It is an option and something I’ll never be faced with having to do as I won’t let myself get in this kind of situation. The rescue doesn’t really care what happens to him as long as they aren’t handed a large bill to pay or find an un-neutered dog wandering around.
vxf111, I’m still waiting to find out about that. I’ve made a request for a meeting via phone conversation with a representative of the group but it’s slow going as they try to set things up with all of the decision makers.
Poor dog, waiting around while they get their act in order!
My cat had very bad teeth and I was nervous for her to have so many pulled. Best decision EVER. She has not had another painful day and eats dry food and everything else like a champ. Wish I had done it sooner. When they have pain in their mouth, they are so miserable!
And given what I paid for my cat’s dental, $565 sounds like a STEAL for what this dog needs and the org should be thrilled you were able to negotiate for all that work for so little.
I don’t know that they can neuter at the same time. Even the scaling alone is pretty time consuming and he needs extractions and various other things. Most likely he’ll need to go under separately for the neuter-- once the mouth is fixed up and he’s healthier.
Yea, it’s been interesting to read up on how dogs fare when they have teeth removed. It seems the general reaction is more energy that most people didn’t even realize was there. I hope that’s true for him too. He sleeps more than any senior dog I’ve ever had and I think it’s exhaustion from the severe pain and infection. He can’t even crunch his food or chew on toys as is, so I’m not concerned that I’ll be taking that aspect of life away from him either.
I’m more comfortable doing the procedures separate too. I definitely think he should be neutered to prevent prostate problems in the future, but my number one concern is his mouth right now. Not to mention that would be a lot of pain for him to handle from two different areas.
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Why? It is an option and something I’ll never be faced with having to do as I won’t let myself get in this kind of situation. The rescue doesn’t really care what happens to him as long as they aren’t handed a large bill to pay or find an un-neutered dog wandering around.[/QUOTE]
Because you are recommending lying and chances are this could so easily get back to the organization, that is why.
Let me come to the defense of animal control.
I’m on the board of a breed-specific rescue. We are pretty successful, we have saved a lot of dogs, but no matter how many we save, there are just too many. We literally cannot save them all. We have limited funds. $500 would save a lot of dogs, so we can’t justify spending all that money on just one dog.
It is brutal, and it is heartbreaking, but it is reality. For a government agency that is at the behest of bureaucrats, I’m sure it’s even worse.
And that is why I stated: “I know not truthful but they have put you between a rock and a hard place.”
Who cares if it gets back to the organization if you don’t deal w/them again.
I know that shelters and rescues are on tight budgets, they make the best decisions for the animals that they can. Knowing this I have always figured I will cover the cost of the problem or return the dog (or cat, etc). I never once thought of fund raising in the way you are suggesting. Organizations are held to laws and lots of rules, it’s what keeps them functioning on the “straight and narrow”.
Sometimes dealing with the public in general is more hassle than help. Shelter workers have to operate under some grim circumstances. I couldn’t do what they do, no wonder most of them are burned out within five years.
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Let me come to the defense of animal control.
I’m on the board of a breed-specific rescue. We are pretty successful, we have saved a lot of dogs, but no matter how many we save, there are just too many. We literally cannot save them all. We have limited funds. $500 would save a lot of dogs, so we can’t justify spending all that money on just one dog.
It is brutal, and it is heartbreaking, but it is reality. For a government agency that is at the behest of bureaucrats, I’m sure it’s even worse.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but then you would put the dog down, right? You wouldn’t let it suffer in “hospice foster” with infections, would you?
If I remember the OP correctly, euthanizing was the other option. I would assume that if the dog’s quality of life suffered to an unacceptable point, the hospice would have ended and he would have been euthanized.
I didn’t get the impression that the dog was in horrendous pain, but rather the OP took him to the vet school and had his mouth evaluated in order to make him more adoptable, in addition to some maintenance-type treatments. It didn’t sound like an emergent situation with his mouth?
Sheilah
[QUOTE=LauraKY;7684250]
Yes, but then you would put the dog down, right? You wouldn’t let it suffer in “hospice foster” with infections, would you?[/QUOTE]
We try to take things case by case and weigh quality of life issues for each dog. Generally speaking, yes, we will euthanize if the vet care is going to be exorbitant, or we can’t find an adopter that will step up to do the vetting.
It sounds to me as if the shelter did not intend OP to foster the dog pending adoption. I’m guessing the long term fostering mentioned was their way of avoiding euthanization on a dog who was not very adoptable even if they paid for a dental and neutering. The shelter needed to communicate better if that’s the case.
[QUOTE=Bells;7683731]
And that is why I stated: “I know not truthful but they have put you between a rock and a hard place.”
Who cares if it gets back to the organization if you don’t deal w/them again.[/QUOTE]
Law suit, but more to the point, why? She is getting a board meeting with them to discuss, why leap to lie first before recommending a full discussion? This is why so many organizations have trouble, people so blithely lie just because they don’t want to deal with so called conflict.
I’m sure a rescue group that can’t afford a dental has tons of money for a law suit -sarcasm…
Again this is an option.
[QUOTE=Calamber;7679163]
I figured that is what you were concerned about. Adopt the doggie and raise the funds. Absolutely do not do any medical procedures unless you own the dog, or at least get their okay to do so on your own. I doubt they will care since they are going to euthanize the dog if he is returned, but better to have yourself covered just in case.[/QUOTE]
This is what I would do if possible. If they won’t let you adopt, I would probably pay for the expenses out of pocket or raise $$ myself if the vets agree that the treatment would lead to better quality of life
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