Dogs at Barn are Ruining my Zen

I’m glad it appears to be working out well. Thanks for the update! I don’t know how long you’ve been with this trainer or what her age is, but I’d suggest keeping track of her calendar and seeing how it affects her behavior with her dogs.

Wow, really…are you saying what I think you’re saying? Or, ok, please elaborate what you are trying to say here.

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I think you should clarify what you are implying.

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You need to elaborate on what you’re accusing this trainer of that you don’t know.

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I’ve been at a few places with dogs that were a problem, and most where they aren’t. One barn I was at had a small herd of extremely obnoxious goats. The BO would put the feed in the stalls before the horses came in (which I didn’t like in and of itself because the horses started trying to rush into the barn when they realized there was feed in their stalls), and the goats would go in and eat the feed. They would do this even if the horse was in its stall and just bully it out of the way. They were like a gang, and used to just run around getting into everything. I love goats but I came to hate those ones!

My current barn is lovely but the owners are not animal people (I know, I know, why have a farm?) and laid down a no dogs off leash policy. One of the owners appears to actively hate dogs, so things got tense even with dogs on leashes. Their house is separated from the stables but I think they were just waiting for a chance to “catch” a dog off leash, or barking. It’s their property, so our BM finally decided just to say only her two dogs and the one that belongs to the weekly barn worker could come regularly.

I’d been bringing my guy to the barn since he was a puppy and he goes everywhere with me, to shows, etc., so it was kind of sad but whatever. He’s fine at home with our other two dogs! Even when we had dogs there they were all trained to not come into the ring when riding, not to chase the horses, etc., and those that were still learning were leashed while being trained. It’s 100% possible to create good barn dogs, but people have to want to put in the effort and a lot of them just don’t.

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Hahaha I’m not accusing her of anything (although you appear to be accusing me of accusing her!) Good grief.
If she’s not yet hit menopause, her behavior could have something to do with her menstrual cycle.
For which she has all my sympathy, and no judgement whatsoever.

But you “ladies” are so quick to judge and condemn here where you’re all anonymous …
Glad you’re not my students!

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We’re quick to condemn you for suggesting that her behavior is related to her menstrual cycle, which is exactly what you implied.

Gross.

You know nothing about this person other than her gender, and then use that to make ridiculous suggestions. Do you think she’s mean to the dogs when she’s on the rag? Or do you think she’s less patient with them when she has PMS? Or, what exactly do you think?

Not to mention, how does one person keep “someone else’s calendar?” E.g. “Hey trainer, I notice you’re behavior is erratic and I’m trying to track it. Do you have your period, or are you expecting it soon? Just trying to decide which hormone phase you’re in because that has to be the reason.”

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Well, you know our fragile lady brains break when we’re having our period! We just can’t keep it together! :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

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I was a person that brought my (well behaved around horses) dog to my old barn all the time. My FAVORITE thing about my new barn is the no dog rule! Soooo much saner lol

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This is my leg after getting bit by a trainer’s dog. A dog who the trainer said was well behaved and never did that before. I was just walking by. This was through my jeans. Thank goodness it was me and not a child. I have learned never to put my hand out to stop a dog. A bite to my hand would of been very serious. Luckily for the trainer, the bite healed fine and other than paying my medical expenses and a week of being off work, she got off easy.

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That looks awful.

All dogs have teeth. All horses have hooves. Getting bitten or kicked hurts, and can end REALLY badly. It makes me nuts when people don’t take appropriate precautions with animals that are obviously unreliable.

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I’m one of those weird horse people who isn’t a big fan of dogs. I know, a rare breed! I can appreciate a well-behaved dog on a leash, but have no interest in befriending any free-roaming canine that wants to jump up on me, knock me over, pester my horse, bark incessantly, or jump in my car while my back is turned and get it’s muddy paws over every single soft surface in there.

I know everyone thinks their dog is the cutest/best/smartest thing out there, but that doesn’t mean it therefore automatically belongs at the barn where people are trying to enjoy their time with their horses. Just my $0.02 :slightly_smiling_face:

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Oh wow, you went exactly where we all thought you were, and also somehow made it worse.

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Holy crap!!! I’m glad you’re ok!

When I was about 8yo, my trainer’s dog (a bloodhound, iirc) lunged & bit my mom on the arm while she was standing railside watching my lesson. Badly. Like it clamped down & wrestled with her. Trainer took dog to the vet to verify shots . Vet took one look at dog (which trainer had adopted) and said “I’ve seen this dog before.” Apparently, it had ended up at the pound after bitting someone else. (Also very badly.) Trainer had the dog put down immediately.

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I’ve heard of several cases unfortunately in which dogs with a biting/attack history are rehomed without the adopter being informed of it. It’s incredibly dangerous and can also turn into a liability! I hope your mom was okay!

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Way to dismiss a valid message because you don’t care for the messenger. But maybe you’ve got your period so you’re feeling a bit moody yourself.

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This is another thing that makes me utterly nuts. The trend with rescues to rehome aggressive dogs. Sometimes they don’t disclose… but other times they do, and the people that adopt the dogs are ignorant of their responsibilities.

A little over two years ago, my daughter was bitten by an off leash dog that we later learned had a history. Fortunately the bite was mild… didn’t break the skin… but hard enough to make her cry. The dog came up behind her while we were standing, singled her out of a group of people - 4 of whom were adults and larger… and bit her on the bum. The owners were amongst the group of adults, watched it happen, and then proceeded to declare that the dog was truly “sweet”, but just still being socialized following adoption (they’d had it a year at that point). A few months later… my husband was walking by their yard with the kids… and the loose antisocial dog took off running, left its yard, and aggressively chased and tried to attack my children. My husband had to get in between everyone and swing a big stick at it to get it to back off from the kids.

To this day… the owners still haven’t apologized. They have rationalized their dog’s behavior. They disclosed after the second incident that they had adopted it from a rescue group a few states away that claimed it had been part of a fighting situation before… and they were still trying to “socialize “ the dog, and oops! - sorry that it was outside roaming AGAIN, uncontrolled by leash or fence.

I love animals as much as the next person, but the whole trend to rescue EVERYTHING, regardless of its behavior history? It’s a mess. The people who choose to rescue dogs with a problem history, and then allow them to roam off leash (at the barn or elsewhere)? I just can’t with these people.

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They ALWAYS say that. My dog was attacked (she was on a leash, the attacking dogs were not) twice in her lifetime and almost died, and both times the owners swore up and down the dog was friendly and had never done anything like that in the past. :roll_eyes: I was fortunate that the one time my dog and myself were attacked, the dog didn’t break the skin through my jeans, but even non-puncture wounds can be dangerous if the flesh is crushed by the other dogs’ jaws. That wound looks so awfully painful.

Sometimes owners blame the victim for looking at the dog funny. Or make excuses that the dog has been abused and you need to walk on eggshells. Some owners seem more concerned their dogs won’t be put down after severely maiming another human being than about the victim.

When I was younger, I had no fear of strange dogs. Sadly or not-so-sadly, my experiences over the past 20 years or so have made me afraid, unless I know the dog and owner.

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I’m sick of so-called self proclaimed experts, and shady rescues adopting out animals that shouldn’t be adopted with their histories.

There was a case in Virginia where a woman adopted a dog that was advertised as a nice dog by a local rescue, no history of aggession, and the dog killed the womans frail, 90+ old mother, and if I remember correctly, the killed her mother within the first day.

It turns out the local rescue operator that advertised the dog as safe had adopted the dog off of death row in a NYC shelter. WHy was this dog given to anyone by the NYC shelter? This dog was described as human and animal aggressive, but the adopter in Virginia lied to the woman who finally adopted the dog. The rescue got sued, but that won’t bring back the woman who was killed by the dog.

Here’s the article about the lawsuit the adopter filed against the so-called rescue. I forgot that the dog had been returned by another local adopter after biting the woman’s nephew. The details are pretty appalling, and pretty graphic.

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2017/06/dog-bite-fatality-adopted-out-pit-bull-kills-virginia-beach.html

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