Doing business with JILL BURNELL? BEWARE.

[eagle74]

Appsolute, I’m quick to defend anyone ( including you ) when bullsh*t is spread. The SIL made statements in regards to the condition of the horses, I responded and had photos of my visits. Then I point out that all I hear is claims without facts. Is it wrong to ask for facts before I judge this person?

My reason for posting my number by the way was to show I’m not Jill, nothing more than that! By the way, H.S. from Iron Spring, you didn’t need to call and ask for Charlie Eagan knowing my name is Mike and I answered the phone that way as well!

[Daventry]

@eagle74;6510447

By the way, H.S. from Iron Spring, you didn’t need to call and ask for Charlie Eagan knowing my name is Mike and I answered the phone that way as well!

:lol::lol: Oh that’s funny!

:lol::lol::lol: Oh Mike, I’d just drop the phone and walk away. Walk away. :lol:

People will listen to me. Trust me when I tell you you’re not going to win against 1,500 scorned horsewomen who have united. The smart ones all agree with what you’ve argued. :yes: The rest will keep arguing with you until they die.

[mactanscott]

I have been following this thread thanks to a friend. I had no intention of posting, but after so many have come forward I am starting to feel guilty for remaining silent.

I feel like I am one of the lucky ones, b/c I have a beautiful healthy colt to show for all the headache. But I never got my breeding certificate, I was told excuse after excuse, was lied to, and then ignored.

The people at GOV and AHS are wonderful and were more than willing to help me register my foal. I would however be responsible for an extra fee since the stallion’s dues had not been paid.

I was furious at Jill for the way she treated me, for not fulfilling her own contract, and most of all I was mad at myself for not doing my due diligence. Lesson learned!!!

I got on here a few days before my colt was born to refresh my memory on a milk prediction test and happen to see a thread on her. Obviously it was too late for me at that point, but if I had known what I do now, I would never have gotten involved with her.

So kudos to all of you that have posted! It’s comforting to know I am not the only one out there. I am over it now, have moved on, and loving my colt (whoever his daddy may be). And whatever the cause for Jill’s erratic behavior, I hope she will receive the help she needs. I can’t imagine she is living a happy life.

[ldaziens]

[QUOTE=eagle74;6510379]
Thanks Daventry and I would second your advice to everyone to take your claims to the right authorities, not the Internet! Uh oh, looks like the FBI is here in their Crown Victorias! Damn you Idaziens!!![/QUOTE]

Oh, Mike, don’t damn me, buddy. I edited my post. You do really know how to spool up the ladies, though:lol:

[ldaziens]

[QUOTE=runwayz;6509742]
Shoponee70, she is getting another piece of property across town. With the help of her husband. Nice to see she can just walk away from this mess and begin another. Shes not mentally ill, she is sharp as a tack. Shame to think she was an RN a few years ago and took care of people! :no:[/QUOTE]

Does anyone actually KNOW the husband has or inherited money?

I ask because Appsolutely looked up the new place, and it is seller financed – meaning that poor seller is about to get completely fudged over no doubt.

My guess is that the seller got conned like everybody else, and that really sucks.

[equinedriver]

[QUOTE=Simkie;6510426]
(Quoted in case it disappears later!)

Ladies and gentlemen, a new contestant enters the ring!

This one appears to be this person, from the email address available on the profile:

http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/PrintFlyer.asp?HorseID=31234

Phone number available! Who wants to call and get the straight dope from this one?[/QUOTE]

Unless that woman is like 6’10", there’s no way that colt is 16.3…

[RoyParker]

Well I know a few of you were looking for me so guess I just couldn’t help myself.*
To all the self-righteous ones out there who claim their posts are to help poor people out there from getting scammed you need to check that mirror again.
SIL starts a thread obviously tee’d off by something and includes a pic of a skinny horse and “fears” for the animals etc etc.
People try to give you facts.* They are run off the board because GOD FORBID someone want to try and introduce facts.* I’m so glad Daventry called Mike because practically called anyone on the board who presented a fact was called Jill.
and RunwayZ you keep saying NO ONE is saying the horses are abused.* But you are as well as many others.* Jill is bringing herds of horses to get USEF points, Redwine’s sperm is no good (um check the # of foals on that)
Breeder after breeder making the mistake of believing unproven facts then making themselves look bad because they are a breeder bashing a breeder.* You call Jill a liar yet most of you continue to post lies.
So many intelligent people said it and no one wanted to hear it.* Stay with the facts.
Everyone has their “opinion” but when those opinions are stated as fact it is called slander.* And since you all know what happened to the last woman that did that I would think you could figure that out.*
Hooray for Eagle for finally being able to make his point. And boo for all the others that tried but could not stand the nastiness of the women on this board.

[runwayz]

Oh boy! I just found an unclaimed RockStar in the fridge! I’m good for the rest of the work day! :winkgrin::winkgrin::winkgrin: Oh boy!!! Roys here! Yee Haw!

[Daventry]

@mactanscott;6510459

I have been following this thread thanks to a friend. I had no intention of posting, but after so many have come forward I am starting to feel guilty for remaining silent.

I feel like I am one of the lucky ones, b/c I have a beautiful healthy colt to show for all the headache. But I never got my breeding certificate, I was told excuse after excuse, was lied to, and then ignored.

The people at GOV and AHS are wonderful and were more than willing to help me register my foal. I would however be responsible for an extra fee since the stallion’s dues had not been paid.

I was furious at Jill for the way she treated me, for not fulfilling her own contract, and most of all I was mad at myself for not doing my due diligence. Lesson learned!!!

I got on here a few days before my colt was born to refresh my memory on a milk prediction test and happen to see a thread on her. Obviously it was too late for me at that point, but if I had known what I do now, I would never have gotten involved with her.

So kudos to all of you that have posted! It’s comforting to know I am not the only one out there. I am over it now, have moved on, and loving my colt (whoever his daddy may be). And whatever the cause for Jill’s erratic behavior, I hope she will receive the help she needs. I can’t imagine she is living a happy life.

mactanscott, get a hold of equinedriver (that’s her username on this forum). She has offered to take down everybody’s names and get something started. You may have gotten over it and moved on, but there are soooo many other unsuspecting people who are going to be doing business with Jill Burnell this year that don’t know any of this information. Do not be embarassed. Please, why not try and make sure this doesn’t happen to anyone else ever again.

Until everyone stands together and decides they’ve had enough, this is going to continue.

[runwayz]

RunwayZ you keep saying NO ONE is saying the horses are abused.* But you are as well as many others.* Jill is bringing herds of horses to get USEF points, Redwine’s sperm is no good (um check the # of foals on that)"

Hey hey hey, I never said any of this, I am happy with my Redwine baby! If you read my posts I have stepped up and said repeatedly that there is no horse abuse… just no damn shelters! :yes:

I guess we will just have to wait and see who makes “the list”.

[runwayz]

Oh and no, what happened to the woman that posted “slander?”

[equinedriver]

Doing something constructive

For those of you that have posted that you got scammed and have “moved on”, it really won’t take that much effort for you to assist in putting a stop to her fraudulent activities. An hour at most. Contact me and send me copies of your contracts, cancelled checks, bank wire orders, emails etc. and I will package them for the FBI and Attorney General. After they receive the packet, you probably will get a phone call from the investigator to discuss your case, which was about 30 min for me. After that it has been nothing but me keeping track of deadlines, following through to find out what happened and then bugging them until they take the next step. I can easily set up an email list to keep everyone up to date after the case is opened. The power will be in the numbers…

This really is the only way to put a stop to it. Getting on here and bitching about her a couple times of year is very entertaining, but it won’t do any good except to maybe make you feel better after a good vent.

[Noms]

[QUOTE=runwayz;6510484]
Oh and no, what happened to the woman that posted “slander?”[/QUOTE]

Nothing! You can’t post slander. hahaha

[Appsolute]

[QUOTE=ldaziens;6510465]
Does anyone actually KNOW the husband has or inherited money?

I ask because Appsolutely looked up the new place, and it is seller financed – meaning that poor seller is about to get completely fudged over no doubt.

My guess is that the seller got conned like everybody else, and that really sucks.[/QUOTE]

The seller carry back was for around $250,000 if I remember right. Looking at the transfer tax, the sale was for around $490,000 - so it looks like they must have plunked down a good $250,000 in CASH.

Nice to know all of those debt are still owed, but they have that much cash laying around…

Edited to add… the new property is in the name of both the husband AND Jill. That means any liens etc one has against her can be attached to the property. They will not be able to sell the property or refinance without paying off those attached liens. In other words, even if the hubby has all of the money, Jill now has assets in her name which could be attached.

[Noms]

[QUOTE=equinedriver;6510488]
For those of you that have posted that you got scammed and have “moved on”, it really won’t take that much effort for you to assist in putting a stop to her fraudulent activities. An hour at most. Contact me and send me copies of your contracts, cancelled checks, bank wire orders, emails etc. and I will package them for the FBI and Attorney General. After they receive the packet, you probably will get a phone call from the investigator to discuss your case, which was about 30 min for me. After that it has been nothing but me keeping track of deadlines, following through to find out what happened and then bugging them until they take the next step. I can easily set up an email list to keep everyone up to date after the case is opened. The power will be in the numbers…

This really is the only way to put a stop to it. Getting on here and bitching about her a couple times of year is very entertaining, but it won’t do any good except to maybe make you feel better after a good vent.[/QUOTE]

Yay, finally one tenacious bi@#h to save the day. I mean that with all due respect!

Make us proud.

[runwayz]

Had to pee…what’d I miss?:winkgrin:

[eagle74]

Just as I suspected, there’s two sides to every story!

[S_A_McKee]

This thread is great fun for sure BUT

The fact remains that she is the USEF # 1 HB Breeder
Redwine is the # 1 HB sire, Aloha is # 3

1 HB Yearling in the US is by Aloha, # 8 by Redwine

1 HB 3 yr old in the US is by Redwine, # 3 is by Redwine ( and looks to be owned by the person who started this thread )

The rest of you are where in the rankings?

A lot of this sounds like sour grapes. If you were all so upset then why didn’t you file criminal charges against her?

I have no dog in this fight because I don’t do feed and lead. Just wanted to make that clear.

[ldaziens]

Thank Heavens You have Arrived, Lowdown!!!

[QUOTE=Lowdown Farms;6510404]
The Burnells are moving and anyone who has ever moved will know that house keeping is not at the top of the list. [/QUOTE]

First of all, EFF YOU!!! I grew up an AF brat & have a military husband. My current place is a hot freaking mess b/c we moved from big place to a tiny place – all for these darn animals-- then after planning for a big cross country move, we just found out we’ll be delayed until next Spring. It’s a cluttered friggin’ catastrophe; but guess what – no effing poor dead baby birds and garbage in my damn bathtub AND, b/c I’m classy like that, no poop all over the damn house - though there is some dog hair build up in the corners. HOWEVER, I am not subjecting children or my poor damn parents to my own hot mess - just my poor DH.

On a side note, I am not engaged in lying, cheating, and defrauding people. So, there’s that.

@Lowdown Farms;6510404

Like many many many people today, the Burnells lost their home and are moving to a lovely large ranch nearby.

Remember, up there, where I said EFF YOU – well I would like to multiple that by the number of honest, hard working people in this country who lost their jobs through no fault of their own, lost their houses; and are now homeless. THOSE people didn’t know how to scam and manipulate people, and surely none of us (I assume) thought it was within the realm of possibility that one could not pay their house payment, get foreclosed, leave a complete and literal $HIT HOLE for the lender to deal with.

And THEN, sashay into a new LOVELY, LARGE Ranch nearby. Nope, nope, I don’t think many, many, people today are doing THAT.

But, the sidenote is that the seller of that Lovely, Large New Ranch is financing them and is about to get more financially screwed than any other horse-related victim of Jill Burnell’s ever was. Probably some desperate seller on fixed income looking forward to that payment each month – and about to spend what somebody said could take up to 2 years to get them evicted from what will then be a completely trashed and destroyed property. And that assumes the seller owns the place free and clear &/or can afford to cover the payments while s/he tries to get the Burnells out of the property. Effing EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!

And, you know what, I am damn sure more willing to give the brother the benefit of the doubt – he apparently SERVED his time for whatever he did; and the sister-in-law did the RIGHT THING for the RIGHT REASONS.

:mad: Better go take my meds.

Like Many People Today Whose Homes Are Foreclosed and who then sashay into new, large ranches.

I may really never get over that.

[runwayz]

“Just as I suspected, there’s two sides to every story!”

Whatcha referring to Eagle74?