Don't know if this has been discussed - PEMF Therapy?

If you go on www.pubmed.gov you can read multiple FDA approved studies on PEMF. The machine I use, BEMER, has 7 FDA approved double-blind and placebo controlled studies on file in the USA, and many more studies published and approved by the EU (most are in German, though, which I don’t read/speak)… It’s been around more than 20 years and the human unit is currently in regular use in over 4,000 clinics and hospitals in Europe, though it is only currently marketed as an FDA Class 2 medical device in the US and still gaining steam with doctors and therapists in the USA.

You can also watch effects of the BEMER signal during a PEMF session on youtube. One video shows both the effects of the signal on abdominal microciruculation and vasomotion, and another on liver function - both videos were filmed using a $26 million microscope that recorded the effects in real-time.

Also, the BEMER PEMF signal was purchased two years ago by NASA and is now being built into space suits for our astronauts to prevent blood clots and joint degeneration that is a common problem when people are in space for extended periods. At the same time, the Department of Defense purchased the technology from BEMER for utilization in the helmets of soldiers - first for special operations soldiers, and later for all branches of the armed services. It was found that an 8 minute PEMF session had the following benefits for soldiers: better stamina, faster recovery time, clearer thinking/faster reaction times, stress reduction, and lowered PTSD rates. If these benefits were proven for our soldiers and the DOD was willing to spend millions of dollars to purchase the rights to use the BEMER technology, I think it’s safe to say that we will see the same signal show benefits in our animals.

Personally, PEMF gave me my life back. Over a decade ago, I got bucked off badly. I collapsed 4 discs and had significant nerve damage in my back, along with a concussion (Split my helmet in half), two cracked ribs with damaged cartilage, a torn right groin muscle, and a bruised kidney. I recovered eventually, but was never the same. I went from being an olympic level athlete (discus and weight lifting) and riding 4-6 horses a week, to being a couch potato for close to a year. I was never the same, and my back pain was so severe that even with ongoing medication and therapy, I often hurt so badly that I couldn’t walk some days and I could only ride my horses at the walk and occasionally at the trot. Two years ago I started PEMF therapy and after 6 weeks of intense therapy (3-4 days a week), I was pain and medication free. I now ride 2-6 horses per day, I’m competing again, and I run several 5k races per year.

Ultimately, though, I love doing PEMF on animals. They have no placebo effect. Either they improve, or they don’t. I have one horse who sees me regularly - he’s 34 years old. He had a pelvic fracture after a fall, along with a haematoma on his right hip and spinal swelling… The owner and his vet wanted me to try working on him before they euthanized him “just in case”. He showed improvement immediately (within 30 minutes) and with the reduction of spinal swelling was able to stand, That was 6 months ago and he’s happily back to enjoying his retirement. A canine I work on with “Old Dog Syndrome” (generally considered the canine equivalent of Parkinsons) who had a level 5 heart murmur and neurological deficits saw me 2x a week for 5 weeks, had a vet appointment, and the vet who had been treating him for 3 years couldn’t find his heart murmur. He was referred back to his cardiologist who had done an MRI a year before, and sure enough, the murmur was gone! His bloodwork also came back “clean” and he no longer shakes or bumps into things. I have several doctors (two anesthesiologists, an OBGYN, and a surgeon) who employ me to work on their animals (and themselves). IMO, the science and the evidence are overwhelmingly in favor of PEMF being a quality therapy to consider not only as a rehab and recovery modality, but also as a performance enhancement.

FYI I don’t ONLY do PEMF with BEMER. I am also certified to do K-Tape, and I offer Equi-Vibe plate services, and I’m currently working towards being certified in equine massage. I don’t think PEMF can fix everything, which is why I offer supporting therapies along with it. It’s not a “magic bullet”. But it is a GREAT tool and a pillar of non-invasive, drug-free therapy.

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I have just purchased the Pulse Equine EQ-X for use on my horse and myself. Once I’ve completed the hands-on training next month, I will offer services to other people, pets, and horses as I know several friends who have expressed interested and there isn’t another local practitioner.

That’s a heckuva story! Where in Southern California are you? You can PM me if you prefer.

Not sure if you were joking or serious, but definitely consult your state’s laws on what constitutes practicing veterinary medicine before you open up shop.

I’m not sure how the boards view PEMF specifically, but many states have restrictions - mine, for example - that technically only allow other “treatment” therapies like massage/chiro/acupuncture to be performed with a veterinarian’s referral. PEMF providers have been popping up around me like wildfires, which led me to wonder about the legalities. Definitely something to check into before plunking down the $15-20k.

I’m curious to try it BUT at this point IMO it is too costly for a personal experiment - running about $100 for 45-60 minutes in my area - for something that might help or might do nothing.

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Another total skeptic here. I work in administration at a large metropolitan hospital and no where is there any mention of PEMF therapy being used in any way. Not for pain control; not to help injuries heal. Zero. Nothing. Nada. TENS units yes, which send electrical pulses and are proven to work. But absolutely nothing embracing PEMF/magnawave therapy. My trainer loves and I know lots of people who spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on it. I remain totally underwhelmed by their results. I just did a quick spin through the alleged case studies and nothing being reported is persuasive IMHO. But if it blows your skirt up, go for it.

I’ve got a horse presently on pasture rest for a strained suspensory. Other than having the vet out to ultrasound and confirm that it indeed is a strained suspensory and doing some initial hydro therapy and poulticing/wrapping while it was acute, I’ve spent zero dollars on PEMF, stem cell, and a whole bunch of other pricey crap again all of it with very questionable efficacy but guaranteed to drain your wallet. Bet my horse heals just as fast and just as well, all the same. YMMV

ETA: See link below

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My mare has bilateral locking stifles, primarily the right, which has led to other soreness, particularly on the inside of her hocks. This is mostly managed with a regimented fitness program, but from time to time things get in the way of that (abscess, stone bruise, regular stuff that puts you out for a couple weeks) and we backtrack. I’m fortunate enough to have a massage therapist/bodyworker with lots of cool gadgets right in my barn, but the one thing she doesn’t have is the PEMF machine. Basically, the horse gets massage and everything else you could imagine, but none of it has compared to PEMF.

I’ve only done one treatment so far. The practitioner focused solely on her hind end (I didn’t want to spend a ton of $$ for the full body experience just to find it didn’t do anything). She was a completely different horse. I’ve had her for two years now and it was like the PEMF unlocked movement I didn’t even know she had. She has a hard time with her hind end, obviously, and trips a lot behind. After PEMF, no tripping. She was coming through the bridle no problem, fluid like a damn ballerina, and I swear if I had been blindfolded and put in the saddle I would never have guessed this was my horse. I was practically in tears when I got on after the treatment - it was seriously that good.

The effect lasted about 3 weeks before she started feeling rickety again. I wouldn’t have said she necessarily felt rickety before, but now? We are on week 5 now and I have scheduled her next treatment for this weekend. We will probably stay on a 4 week schedule.

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PEMF is different than shockwave.

Forgive the wiki links, but for anyone curious about the difference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shockwave_therapy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_electromagnetic_field_therapy

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There’s lots of human studies on the use of PEMF, and there is a lot of biochemical research going on to prove the pathway by which it works. There have also been studies done that “start from the end” based on the efficacy of treating things like arthritis and trying to understand what PEMF could be influencing to cause that result.

its been around in people since the 70s and it is used in clinical settings in Europe. Most of the products used are developed in Germany. I wouldn’t necessarily take an American hospital’s lack of interest in it as any indication as to whether something is effective or not.

all I can tell you is that I have seen consistent improvement in the horses that have used my activo med system on - and I know many riders using them who sure wouldn’t be wasting time on something that doesn’t do anything.

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I misposted my reference and corrected it above. Shockwave therapy as in lithotripsy is effective. As stated above, TENS units which emit electrical pulses, also effective. PEMF/Magnawave, a big NO.

This just came up to me again on Friday as I am dealing with a horse with a very large avulsed suspensory branch injury. He is six months out and the ligament is still quite large. I took him to a different vet to confirm that it is indeed his suspensory branch and not a tendon; that there were no tears and his attachments are good; and no core lesion. While there, the vet tried to give me a bit of grief for not initially doing PRP and Magnawave, but I brushed it off for the reasons stated above.

Today, when I got into work here at the hospital I again revisited those issues with the vice president who oversees Quality Improvement and Peer Review; and just like stem cells for orthopedic issues, this hospital finds no merit in PRP, stem cells or PEMF/Magnawave for orthopedic injuries in humans, and does not offer them, period. Again, there is no science that is persuasive regarding their effectiveness at all. So I feel confident in my refusal to throw good money after bad and buy into them. YMMV. In my case, it’s giving him plenty of time to recover as much as he will and there is no magic elixir.

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Funny, I worked with NASA and still have several colleagues who are current science investigators with NASA on spaceflight effects on human physiology, never heard of your machine. One of my colleagues just completed a mission study for Mars transit and they didn’t have special space suits as you imply. But, I will ask the NASA folks about your claims.

You definitely are spouting the marketing materials here.

ALSO, THE FDA DOES NOT APPROVE STUDIES!!! As a founder of a medical company, the FDA makes the companies do their OWN STUDIES but does not APPROVE THEM. They only look at the data. It is fairly EASY to get around FDA requirements. My business partner has 30 years of regulatory experience with the FDA and I have worked on FDA standards.

I have used full spectrum laser microscopes even more expensive than $26 million dollars. And we still got crap data. Just because something is expensive, does not mean it is good or even effective.

Now, can you provide explicit studies, data, and reference specific investigators? I don’t want just marketing crap. I will look at the FDA approvals and records for your claims (they are public records on the FDA.gov website).

Thanks for the commercial.

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I did see some studies with improved healing from PEMF over surgical sites (see below). I believe it is NO pathways that help improve angiogenesis…so I’d be willing to use it on injuries/soft tissue. I cannot speak to using it in acute injuries, but my horse does seem to like his treatments from a relaxation perspective. It’s about the only darn time he chills out and doesn’t paw the ground.

Granted this Journal only has an impact factor of around 3, so not groundbreaking, but a good review I think nonetheless:

Aesthet Surg J. 2009 Mar-Apr;29(2):135-43. doi: 10.1016/j.asj.2009.02.001. [h=1]Evidence-based use of pulsed electromagnetic field therapy in clinical plastic surgery.[/h] Strauch B[SUP]1[/SUP], Herman C, Dabb R, Ignarro LJ, Pilla AA. [h=3]Author information[/h] [h=3]Abstract[/h] [h=4]BACKGROUND:[/h]
The initial development of pulsed electromagnetic field (PEMF) therapy and its evolution over the last century for use in clinical surgery has been slow, primarily because of lack of scientifically-derived, evidence-based knowledge of the mechanism of action. [h=4]OBJECTIVE:[/h]
Our objective was to review the major scientific breakthroughs and current understanding of the mechanism of action of PEMF therapy, providing clinicians with a sound basis for optimal use. [h=4]METHODS:[/h]
A literature review was conducted, including mechanism of action and biologic and clinical studies of PEMF. Using case illustrations, a holistic exposition on the clinical use of PEMF in plastic surgery was performed. [h=4]RESULTS:[/h]
PEMF therapy has been used successfully in the management of postsurgical pain and edema, the treatment of chronic wounds, and in facilitating vasodilatation and angiogenesis. Using scientific support, the authors present the currently accepted mechanism of action of PEMF therapy. [h=4]CONCLUSIONS:[/h]
This review shows that plastic surgeons have at hand a powerful tool with no known side effects for the adjunctive, noninvasive, nonpharmacologic management of postoperative pain and edema. Given the recent rapid advances in development of portable and economical PEMF devices, what has been of most significance to the plastic surgeon is the laboratory and clinical confirmation of decreased pain and swelling following injury or surgery.

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Hi All, I do want to share the Bemer blanket has helped my horse. He had some major accidents, sadly. I use it nearly every day along w body work. I am a two time Hodgkins patient treated w radiation and chemotherapy. I have major neck damage due to those treatments. I use my Bemer horse blanket ( not recommended) for me as well, and it does help my pain. I don’t go to the Bemer meetings and I don’t sell them, but they have helped my horse and me.

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