[QUOTE=CrowneDragon;7485878]
Just like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were normal people who helped out in the community :lol:
“He couldn’t be a serial killer! He waved hi to me every morning on his way to work!” :lol:
Not every criminal comes off as a creep.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly. Many pedophiles/serial killers come off as completely normal people. Sometimes there is no way of knowing!
[QUOTE=Laurierace;7485851]
You know, this whole Carolina Gold thing is weird. Many of you act like he invented the stuff and was the only one dispensing it. I don’t know the status currently but it was around the track for years.[/QUOTE]
Why would you want to use Carolina Gold on a racehorse?!
To calm them down
Are you guys putting two and two together that these are NEW charges? From a different state? In other words, a whole separate accuser than the one he has been charged for in his home state of SC. Game changer for me.
And this was not simply some opinion on rate my horse pro; this is the actual indictment from the state of Mississippi.
It’s amazing what some people can defend.
Disclaimer - I do not know the vet mentioned here.
[QUOTE=mroades;7485772]
I promise, he is not a child toucher.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure how one can promise that unless they spend every minute of every day with the person.
[QUOTE=arlosmine;7485911]Um, not wanting to support trolling here, but if you think you’d recognize a pedophile if you met one (or married one, or dated one or birthed one), YOU ARE VERY WRONG.
We won’t know if he is or is not, and there is no real point in speculating… But it is naive to think that you have any idea one way or the other.[/QUOTE]
This is important information to realize.
I have experience with this. A member of an organization I was very active with in my early 20s, a person who I spent quite a bit of time with even, I later learned was a pedophile. I never would have guessed it. None of us would have. We later found out that the charges brought that were our light bulb moment were not his first incident/charges.
[QUOTE=trubandloki;7486106]
Disclaimer - I do not know the vet mentioned here.
I am not sure how one can promise that unless they spend every minute of every day with the person.
This is important information to realize.
I have experience with this. A member of an organization I was very active with in my early 20s, a person who I spent quite a bit of time with even, I later learned was a pedophile. I never would have guessed it. None of us would have. We later found out that the charges brought that were our light bulb moment were not his first incident/charges.[/QUOTE]
I have had dinner with a man who was later arrested for trying to meet a 15 year old he had “met” online. He is very well educated, family man, polite, etc. etc. I was beyond shocked when he was charged. You really never know. 
I think the reference to Carolina Gold is funny given the USEF claimed it was so widely used but after 20,000 plus samples it has found 12 positives. More like 12 statistical errors which is .0006 found positive of the samples run. More needs to be brought out on the ruse the USEF is perpetuating on the Carolina Gold matter.
and you wonder why victims and their families don’t want to come forward and abusers abuse for years and years.
every pedophile out there is someone’s brother, husband, father, son, friend or just a “good guy.”
pedophiles have to be nice, outgoing and be trusted by adults to gain access to children. they are master manipulators.
[QUOTE=mroades;7485756]
I DO know the guy and he is not a child toucher[/QUOTE]
Here’s the thing - many, many child “touchers” and molesters are people who come across as normal, nice, and helpful. Many children who are molested are victimized by people who are part of the family, or in regular contact with the family. Often, when children try to tell their parents, the parents initially don’t believe the children or ignore it because they have a good opinion of the abuser. This is why we really have to get away from the mindset that child molesters are obviously creepy strangers. Children are far more likely to be abused by normal seeming people who are on good terms with their families than they are by creepy-seeming strangers standing around at the park.
So saying “I know the guy!” is hardly a defense.
I don’t know the guy - maybe he’s being set up or someone wants to ruin him. That’s entirely possible. But just because you know him doesn’t mean jack in terms of his guilt or innocence.
There have been TWO indictments. In two separate states. Involving two incidents. Why is everyone glossing over this? Can someone pull up the precious thread, on the first indictment? I’m having trouble on my dinosaur laptop.
[QUOTE=Meredith Clark;7485914]
I wouldn’t know this guy if I hit him with my car, and I know that in America you are innocent until proven guilty, but as a teacher I take sexual charges against minors very seriously (as anyone should) and in MY experience “if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…”[/QUOTE]
I’m not trying to pick a fight but the “innocent until proven guilty” only applies in a court of law. And it only applies to the governments ability to deprive you of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. He can be guilty (like OJ IMO) but found innocent and there are numerous cases where someone is found guilty in court only to later be proven innocent. If he’s been charge twice things look pretty bad. But he either did it or didn’t do it, regardless of what is decided in court.
We see him all the time at shows riding his 4 wheeler with his german shephard running beside him. But these allegations will all but require the horse show companies to quit using him as the show vet. He’s been the show vet at ever Classic Company horse in Conyers, GA for the last few years. I wonder if he is there for the next 2 weeks??
He hasn’t been working for them all winter. In fact he is suspended by the usef
I don’t know him personally however as a parent, I would not want him in the vicinity of my children until this matter is settled. The Carolina Gold charges while troubling are of way less importance to me than a sex abuse charge with a minor.
Jerry Sandusky was supposedly a great person, started a philanthropy and also adopted children. We all know how that one ended up.
I personally find it offensive when somebody starts a thread like this. Guess I have to consider the source.
[QUOTE=Meredith Clark;7485914]
I wouldn’t know this guy if I hit him with my car, and I know that in America you are innocent until proven guilty, but as a teacher I take sexual charges against minors very seriously (as anyone should) and in MY experience “if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…”[/QUOTE]
Right, but what if someone else merely called it a duck? Is that evidence of duckness in the same category as walking and talking?
I don’t know, if I had a child, I might be interested in knowing this piece of information. Not like someone started a thread based on 5th hand rumors.
[QUOTE=APirateLooksAtForty;7486051]
Are you guys putting two and two together that these are NEW charges? From a different state? In other words, a whole separate accuser than the one he has been charged for in his home state of SC. Game changer for me.
And this was not simply some opinion on rate my horse pro; this is the actual indictment from the state of Mississippi.
It’s amazing what some people can defend.[/QUOTE]
From the article posted on RMHP, I did not assume this was a separate accuser. Only a separate charge from a new state. Looking at the dates involved and piecing together what was posted on the original thread, after the SC charges were publicized, my assumption from these new charges would be that the mother of those boys Dr. Juan had been caring for went to Mississippi to pursue her complaint. I would not assume from the dates in both charges that these were new charges entirely. He traveled with the horse shows and the Mississippi charges correspond with the dates he would have been at the Gulfport horse shows. It makes total sense to me that a mother whose story may be unraveling in South Carolina may have gone to prosecutors in another state to try again.
I don’t know Dr. Juan well, but I know folks who do. Everyone who knows him seems to be standing beside his version of events and the circumstances surrounding these allegations ---- A key difference between this scenario and the scenario that unfolded in Pennsylvania at Penn State a few years back. I would not be so quick to compare the two. Apples and Oranges, from what has been presented so far.
IT IS A SEPARATE INCIDENT.
Notice the first refers to “boys,” this one only refers to one child
A co-worker of mine just had one of his good friends indicted on the same charges of child molestation. None of his friends nor family were aware that he was such a monster. Goes to show that you never truly know what someone may be hiding.
Just in case anyone thinks I have a dog in this fight, I don’t, I simply have children and have followed this very closely
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