DR. JUAN GAMBOA INDICTED FOR CHILD SEX ABUSE.

[lizloveshorses]

Uh, just to clear up any confusion that’s circulating with the word “pedophile,” please read:

Pedophilia is a mental disorder (currently in the DSM 5) in which an adult experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Having this disease does not mean that one has abused a child, just as sexual abusing a child does not mean that someone is a pedophile. Again, pedophilia is the attraction, not the act.

None of us here (unless you are his psychiatrist / psychologist / medical doctor) should be throwing around the word pedophile. He may have or may not have sexually abused children, which I believe is what this lawsuit is attempting to uncover.

[Justa_Bob]

Wow.

This kind of thread really bites. First, re-posting from a pasting website just creates a noisy echo chamber. Too few facts and too much echo / noise.

These are very, very serious charges. If not true, threads like these just create more pain for the innocent. If true - it is pretty shocking that some bb posters are ready to defend the accused as innocent because they met him and ‘the charges just can’t be true.’ Scary scary stuff. Sure is leaping to conclusions!

Just big fat mess all around. No justice done here. No good info or facts. This is the worst kind of thread.

Another reason to despise the ALL CAP TITLED THREADS. OMG SKY IS FALLING. SCREAMING RUN OFF INTO GOSSIP AND SPEW LAND!!!

Right.

And if the charges are true - bb threads are terrible way of 'serving justice.

[Appsolute]

Umm yeah - you can’t pick out a child molester just by looking at them, or having a conversation with them, etc :no: SERIOUSLY I am amazed that some people would think that you could!

[ponypappy]

Looks like he has been suspened By USEF, I’m assuming under the New Safe Sport policy.

[Spotted_Pony]

[QUOTE=Laurierace;7485851]
You know, this whole Carolina Gold thing is weird. Many of you act like he invented the stuff and was the only one dispensing it. I don’t know the status currently but it was around the track for years.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Wasn’t “illegal” to use it, just to show on it. That is the owners decision, not the vet’s.

[ponypappy]

I wonder if you would be equally offended if it were your child or a relative or a friends child. I do not get why people thing exposing stuff like this is a problem. Its the right of the public to know. This was to answer the insult by Foxtrot that is not even a US citizen and has no knowledge of US laws.

[Spotted_Pony]

The horse show old is a very incestuous one at best. I would need to know who this new accuser is before I give it much credence. I know who the people are that are involved in the SC case and don’t have any reason to believe those charges. It’s easy to make charges.

[ponypappy]

[QUOTE=Spotted Pony;7487674]
The horse show old is a very incestuous one at best. I would need to know who this new accuser is before I give it much credence. I know who the people are that are involved in the SC case and don’t have any reason to believe those charges. It’s easy to make charges.[/QUOTE]

ITS A CHILD!

Just checked RMHP there was an update done today with court documents on the Mississippi Case.

[vineyridge]

In Mississippi, the name of the child is held in confidence until a trial, and even then, newspapers will not report the name.

Second, the Mississippi indictment refers to an incident in Harrison County (Gulfport) between February 1 and March 1, 2013, where the penis of a child under 16 was touched for lustful purpose. This could well be the same child that is alleged to have been touched in South Carolina, but it could equally as well be another male child. The identity won’t be revealed until trial, and unless you are actually present at the trial, you’ll never know. I’m quite certain the RMHP will report the final outcome in both states, whether guilty or not.

Question: why is it called Carolina Gold? Is/was it common around the Aiken training establishments?

[Spotted_Pony]

[QUOTE=ponypappy;7487702]
ITS A CHILD!

Just checked RMHP there was an update done today with court documents on the Mississippi Case.[/QUOTE]

The child did not make the charges, an adult did. I don’t have a clue who made the second charges but I do the first. Reputation is everything. In the SC charges I wouldn’t believe that parent as far a I could throw her.

[Zuri]

To be fair, the child may have told a teacher, a coach, another student. We teach our children from an early age about inappropriate touching. They are encouraged to tell someone and they are to be believed.

The horse world is filled with trusting children. It is incumbent on us as adults to listen to any child who approaches us with questions or stories of inappropriate behavior by any adult and not dismiss them. Child Abuse happens far more than you would dare to believe. It does not discriminate. JMV

[BeeHoney]

I know nothing about the person in question, but just want to add that I also agree that it is absolutely true that a molester can be someone who seems like a great person–a community leader, a beloved sports coach, etc.

However, because it is such a damaging accusation, I have also seen people make false accusations as a weapon for revenge or personal gain in divorce/custody battles and other disagreements. It’s the kind of accusation that can really haunt someone’s life even if completely false.

[Zuri]

[QUOTE=BeeHoney;7489659]
I know nothing about the person in question, but just want to add that I also agree that it is absolutely true that a molester can be someone who seems like a great person–a community leader, a beloved sports coach, etc.

However, because it is such a damaging accusation, I have also seen people make false accusations as a weapon for revenge or personal gain in divorce/custody battles and other disagreements. It’s the kind of accusation that can really haunt someone’s life even if completely false.[/QUOTE]

Well said. Making allegations of child sexual abuse under false pretenses is reprehensible. If the charges are proven false, I truly hope Dr. Gamboa will be okay. The financial and emotional toll on him and his family must be horrendous. JMV

[vineyridge]

According to a statement on RMHP the child is a different one from the ones in South Carolina per Mississippi authorities, and the parents also filed a charge in Florida as well.

[ponypappy]

It is a horrible charge to have against you. That is why they have Grand Jury’s that look at the information independently. It must be equally horrible to have people defend your molester because the consequences for the child and their family are forever. USEF, not that they have any credibility has also suspended him.

[rudygirl77]

You would be wrong to assume that this charge is from the same parent as the South Carolina incident. The Mississippi charges are a completley different individual. And I know this because I am close with several people indirectly involved in this case. These new charges completely change this case. The boys in South Carolina were living in and were going to school in South Carolina. Not everyone is standing beside this man. Many are not, we are just quietly waiting for the events to unfold. And they will unfold.Remember…it is not the same child or children in the second charge!!! The mother is not even involved in the charging of accusations. Once the 1st victims verbal account of what happened was recorded, this case went straight to the State of South Carolina. That is who is charging Gamboa. The victims story has never once unwavered or differentiated from the first time they told it. There is a pattern of events here is you look closely. Predators are everywhere, in any form and most often, they are in the form mimicking the most normal and soft spoken of people. They are everyone and anyone. Stand up for victims and pray for them for the day this transgression happened to them, the soul of a child, a tiny human being was murdered. And it will never be back.

[QUOTE=PoochPaddock;7486593]
From the article posted on RMHP, I did not assume this was a separate accuser. Only a separate charge from a new state. Looking at the dates involved and piecing together what was posted on the original thread, after the SC charges were publicized, my assumption from these new charges would be that the mother of those boys Dr. Juan had been caring for went to Mississippi to pursue her complaint. I would not assume from the dates in both charges that these were new charges entirely. He traveled with the horse shows and the Mississippi charges correspond with the dates he would have been at the Gulfport horse shows. It makes total sense to me that a mother whose story may be unraveling in South Carolina may have gone to prosecutors in another state to try again.

I don’t know Dr. Juan well, but I know folks who do. Everyone who knows him seems to be standing beside his version of events and the circumstances surrounding these allegations ---- A key difference between this scenario and the scenario that unfolded in Pennsylvania at Penn State a few years back. I would not be so quick to compare the two. Apples and Oranges, from what has been presented so far.[/QUOTE]

[bits619]

I don’t remember where I originally found this website, but it is an incredibly thorough, insightful resource for protecting children from sexual abuse. I clicked on it and then found myself reading page after page because it is just SUCH important information.
http://themamabeareffect.org/understanding-abusers.html

Some of the things on that page I linked directly relate to what many have said about the person this thread is about (and other accused people).

[Griffyn]

Whether this guy is or is not convicted, every parent should wake up and look at who they are trusting their children with. You cant tell, you ABSOLUTELY cannot tell who is a sex offender by their demeanor, looks, professionalism etc. THANK YOU Bits619 for bringing a helpful direction into this discussion. I work with such offenders daily. Theres a handful of nasty old baby rapers, but the VAST MAJORITY are completely beneath anyones creepdar. Anyone bringing false accusations should be imprisoned themselves, but the victim, if true- is a child. And we need to be in business to protect children. How many people do complete, thorough background checks on their trainers, employees, boarders, farriers and other people who might be employed to do casual work on a farm? My BO has a variety of people come and do volunteer stuff like work the garden, also rents a house on the property. All those people need to be checked out, because of their proximity to kids. And she does.

[BeaSting]

[QUOTE=Griffyn;7491027]
Whether this guy is or is not convicted, every parent should wake up and look at who they are trusting their children with. You cant tell, you ABSOLUTELY cannot tell who is a sex offender by their demeanor, looks, professionalism etc. [/QUOTE]

The only difference between the “nice normal person” and the pedophile is what they do given an opportunity. I go to school with a non-verbal child who has cerebral palsy. It’s part of my job to make sure nobody is given the opportunity to abuse this child, and that means nobody spends time alone with him behind a closed door -unless the door has an uncovered window. Even people who have gone through thorough background checks can fail to do the right thing, given opportunity.

[Hello_Newman]

Ummm, yes that is true, but being a social worker/therapist, the definition is correct. But, he is being accused on carrying it a step further so it really goes together in this case.