Get him over here, I’ll show him what “swing” is. Grrrr.
relampago’s rider is a student of german isabel werth.
Yep and that explains a lot. Super horse, super rider. Should be in the top 5, IMO.
Eileen
None of the Iberian type horses seem to have scored well today.
I second that!! Fabulous
(sssshhhhh, don’t tell my boss I was watching)
LOL, that’s one of the first things I look for and you almost never see it, even among some of the biggest names in dressage. Its sad really.
crap? that’s pretty harsh. how many Olympics have you competed in? Do you have any idea how hard these people work to get where they are?
nobody is perfect. nobody. that doesnt mean they don’t deserve respect or admiration for all the GOOD qualities they have. one or two imperfect aspects does not a “crappy” horse/rider team make.
what was that saying? something about “if you can’t say anything nice…don’t say anything at all”…
[QUOTE=Kwill;3439448]
None of the Iberian type horses seem to have scored well today.[/QUOTE]
As a huge baroque fan and Lipizzan owner, the only one I would have scored well was Hayley. The others just weren’t good representatives of the type and were lacking in classical training.
My 2 cents
Eileen
For those that want to see what dressage looked like 24 years ago at the 1984 Olympics, I posted a YouTube video of Klimke and Ahlerich performing their gold medal ride. You be the judge of yesterday vs. today.
[QUOTE=SGray;3439449]
I second that!! Fabulous
(sssshhhhh, don’t tell my boss I was watching)[/QUOTE]
I think it’s so great we can see it live. I have been watching all week. I will still watch the TV coverage, but this is so much better without all the editing.
It’s been fun chatting with the CotH folks about it, too.
Can NBC get nothing totally right? Went to check out the scored (didn’t watch them live, oops) and they cut off the final scores on the listings. Ugh.
Thought Relampago was good but he lost rhythm some times. Thought he was a bit sloppy in the zig zag but really nice over all. I thought the other Iberians had soso rides.
Some day dressage will be like western pleasure where it’s all about the bling. Then we won’t have to worry about proper scoring or not.
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crap? that’s pretty harsh. how many Olympics have you competed in? Do you have any idea how hard these people work to get where they are?
nobody is perfect. nobody. that doesnt mean they don’t deserve respect or admiration for all the GOOD qualities they have. one or two imperfect aspects does not a “crappy” horse/rider team make.
what was that saying? something about “if you can’t say anything nice…don’t say anything at all”…[/QUOTE]
Oh man, it’s the Anky fan.
You have your opinion, I have mine. If you don’t like the fact that I want to see riding and scoring by the rule book, that’s your prerogative.
I’m not going to get into another mindless debate with you, so save your keyboard.
Eileen
Roan, I think you are getting a little too cathected.
Just because Gucci Cowgirl has not totally trashed some rider to your level of satisfaction, doesn’t mean she is wrong about everything in the world. In fact, she has a damn good eye and a lot more experience than you.
Why don’t you tell their riders that they are crap to their faces? That’s a horrible, horrible thing to say. I think your concept of what the rules are, needs some corrections anyway. You go way, way overboard.
Everyone makes mistakes and no one’s perfect, come on, for heaven’s sake. It doesn’t mean their whole training is for shit, one might point out this or that to sharpen one’s own eye, but to say they’re crap, God.
They just aren’t as experienced as some of the others, each one has different weaknesses, strengths, sitting a little to one side, doing this, doing that, everyone has different things they do wrong or right.
It doesn’t mean they’re crap.
How’d you like to have someone say your riding is crap?
These people work very hard Roan. I don’t think you’ve exactly devoted your entire life to riding dressage at the international level for the last 4, 8, 12 years like they have.
LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!! LOL!
[QUOTE=Mike Matson;3439470]
For those that want to see what dressage looked like 24 years ago at the 1984 Olympics, I posted a YouTube video of Klimke and Ahlerich performing their gold medal ride. You be the judge of yesterday vs. today.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tKbqokuTzh8[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Mike!
That’s one of my favorite videos and something everyone can aspire to – ammie or pro. The day dressage goes back to the way it should be will be a happy day for the horses involved.
How about some vids of Absent et al, too?
Eileen
Actually, I am not an Anky fan. I don’t agree with her training methods or particularly enjoy watching her tests. BUT I have an immense appreciation for the hard work, experience, knwledge and dedication that she brings to her sport.
I don’t really understand how you can debate that, even if you don’t agree with the specific training methods.
SLC,
Tell Brittany she can go home and cry.
I hardly think that people who have worked all their life to get where they are would give a flying floogle as to what a crappy ammie rider has to say about them.
Thffpt! :winkgrin:
Eileen
And here I was thinking we got thru an entire thread on the dressage with minimal flames … LOL.
Well it was nice while it lasted.
That being said, even the worst rider competing rides tons better than I do, and one has to admire the dedication to get where they are.
[QUOTE=Gucci Cowgirl;3439496]
Actually, I am not an Anky fan. I don’t agree with her training methods or particularly enjoy watching her tests. BUT I have an immense appreciation for the hard work, experience, knwledge and dedication that she brings to her sport.
I don’t really understand how you can debate that, even if you don’t agree with the specific training methods.[/QUOTE]
Because I appreciate MORE the people who bring hard work, experience, knowledge and dedication to the sport that do it CORRECTLY.
Those are the people who are not getting scored well and that, well, that just sucks and it’s highly unfair.
I say “crap” because I cannot learn from 90% of these riders. That’s why I watch, to LEARN. I don’t need to learn how to do stuff incorrectly, that’s easy. I want to learn how to do it correctly.
Put some more Hayleys in the ring. Werth. A few others. Those are the people I appreciate.
I want to see more horses scoring high – those that have the pole at the highest point, the nose IFV at the extended trot, PURE gaits and GOOD, sitting piaffes. Score them well and quit scoring hollow-backs, broken C3 and BTV, and I’ll shuddup.
Eileen :yes:
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I thought the venue was supposed to be so great?[/QUOTE]
It might be great in it’s design, but it has horrible weather. It looks like it might be over 90~F right now in the evening. EVERY one looks beat up, wet with sweat, horses are breathing heavily, the Russian horse was near death at the end of his ride. I do not think ANY air is circulating, the stadiums pretty much close the area in bowl.
The rides are what I would call conservative, and it has to be the heat and humidity; no one can ride when they feel like fainting. JMHO
We’ll see if the heat breaks.
[QUOTE=Mike Matson;3439470]
For those that want to see what dressage looked like 24 years ago at the 1984 Olympics, I posted a YouTube video of Klimke and Ahlerich performing their gold medal ride. You be the judge of yesterday vs. today.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tKbqokuTzh8[/QUOTE]
Thanks Mike! Do you know what his score was? Just curious.
Btw, WAZ talked about how Klimke warmed up for that particular ride at one of his clinics. He said he was incredibly impressed with Klimke’s slow and easy warm up, taking his horse from walk to more energetic walk and slowly bringing him to collection (there were several warmup rings that they moved through and with each the horse was brought a little more together). On the vid, it was impressive how Klimke rode trot to extended trot for just a few strides as his warmup before going in. No piafe and passage outside the ring.
Live feed over?
Is the NBC Live Feed of the GP over? Waaa.
They’re not the ONLY ones!
