Dressage YouTube Tutorials?

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@Dxarmbar06

did you not hear me say I’ve been working with horses for over a year intensively to the point where I’m sleeping in the barn with sick horses?

Well shoot, why didn’t you tell us sooner of your whole year of horse care, Florence Nightingale? How many more barn-sleeping (but not for free!) miracles do you need for canonization? If Junipero Serra made sainthood by forcible conversion* of indigenous populations I’m sure you’re a shoe-in for your year of horse care and your planned internet tutorial dressage miracles.

*and maybe a little torture/murder

@Dxarmbar06

I don’t have to do this right you know. I could just throw a curve bit on, carry a rubber tube on my belt and get my way by force … Yes, I expect information to be given away for free, for the sole fact that more people riding correctly means less horses being beat with rubber tubes to make them turn.

1. Is it wrong to laugh at such a macabre attempt at manipulation?
2. Surely someone who can ‘run burn-out on any horse through the roughest backcountry’ and feels confident they can reach 4th level in a matter of weeks knows that a curb bit has a place in dressage…
3. Threatening to beat horses with a rubber tube is a surefire way to get conscientious dressage riders like the folks here into your corner. Do go on…

Listen, Dxarmbar, you seem like a real gem. It’s not you and your 1.5 years of experience, visions of cavalry dressage mastery, and insistence that the rest of us provide you a dressage education for free lest you use abusive techniques to force your way to your goals. It’s us. We’re just not ready to give up the notion that horsemanship is built out of kind riding and hard work. I guess we’re just not that into someone who doesn’t take advantage of the learning opportunities in everyday barn work and doesn’t have any respect for what it takes to become a competent rider and trainer.

Do feel free to contact me if that first level YouTube video doesn’t turn into a lucrative training career. I’m probably willing to pay to see what happens if you try to ride any backcountry terrain on my mostly-US-military-bred horse. She is even less willing to suffer a fool than I am…

[leheath]

I wonder why you feel equestrian knowledge should be shared for free, when knowledge isn’t given for free in other areas of life? Unless you went to a junior, middle, or high school where the teachers weren’t paid and are surrounded by colleges/universities where there are no tuition costs and the lecturers aren’t paid? Are text books free where you live?

As a side note, using the argument “you don’t have to do this right” so everyone should give you everything for free to prevent you abusing whatever poor horse you are given the opportunity to ride is truly bizarre and very unlikely to achieve your intended result. Most people respond poorly to what essentially amounts to blackmail!

While I personally feel basic education should actually be provided without cost to everyone (because a more educated population generally makes the world a better place), equine education is a privilege, not a right, and thus should be earned rather than given away for free by people who worked hard to obtain it themselves.

[Dee-Vee]

Dxarm, the problem with videos is they will not tell you if you have it right or wrong. It’s like trying to learn Pilates or yoga by video. If you don’t have the position or moves correct you don’t get the benefit of the exercise and you can hurt yourself.

Additionally all horses ride and feel different. Videos won’t teach you when the horse is going correctly or not.

In sum, I don’t think you will find what you’re looking for. I am not sure that without credible credentials anyone who genuinely cares about their horse and its training will let you ride it. You see we have a lot invested in our horses that we don’t want that compromised. I would hazard a guess that each serious horse owner on this board has considered at great length anyone who sits on their horse’s back.

That said I think learning a new language is a great idea. Those who have the gift for learning languages find the Internet a useful tool. But to be a native speaker you have to practice with native speakers…just to know you’ve got it right so speak.

Best of luck

[trubandloki]

@Dxarmbar06

I did 4 months at one place and received 2 lessons, and no other riding time. The two others after a month started to pull the same thing so I’m sorry but if that’s the way it’s going to be I’m not free either.

It sounds like the problem might not be so much the working student position but the person taking the working student position.

[AnotherRound]

This is so obviously Nick Peronace pretending to need tutorials from beginner to fourth level, that the horse world is corrupt for wanting so much money to teach someone how to ride, and all so that HE, The Great Nick Peronace, can then say, look, look at me!!! LOOK AT ME!! Even the great COTH couldn’t help this poor person who just wanted affordable free instruction to get him to fourth level, and I, ME THE GREAT PERO-NACY!!! THE MAESTRO!!! Have created instructional, low cost, FREE videos for the simple, humble rider to learn fourth level dressage!!! Come to my link and I will tell you all about ME ME ME!!! And my FREE, low cost videos!!!

Look for it! Coming soon!!

[Angela_Freda]

@Dxarmbar06

. Not trying to ride the grand prix here, just be competent enough under saddle to handle anything that comes my way. .

Oh seriously, there are some real gems here…

[Angela_Freda]

@Raztafari

In the horse world you’re not going to get much for free. Working student is a great way to get lessons, I’ve done it myself. you aren’t going to get the personalized instruction you need from a YouTube video. It’s great that you want to learn but… honestly, lower your expectations. Being an equestrian is expensive, you get what you pay for.

And as a WS you don’t have to ride or get lessons to learn. Watching better riders ride, getting to audit their lessons can, if one is interested enough to do so, teach someone a whole heckuvalot.
Lessons in almost anything are all around you, f you’re smart enough to stop throwing a tantrum about not getting paid to ride and actually listen, think, and observe.

[Angela_Freda]

@AnotherRound

This is so obviously Nick Peronace pretending to need tutorials from beginner to fourth level, that the horse world is corrupt for wanting so much money to teach someone how to ride, and all so that HE, The Great Nick Peronace, can then say, look, look at me!!! LOOK AT ME!! Even the great COTH couldn’t help this poor person who just wanted affordable free instruction to get him to fourth level, and I, ME THE GREAT PERO-NACY!!! THE MAESTRO!!! Have created instructional, low cost, FREE videos for the simple, humble rider to learn fourth level dressage!!! Come to my link and I will tell you all about ME ME ME!!! And my FREE, low cost videos!!!

Look for it! Coming soon!!

Was it the whining that gave it away for you too?

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

It sounds like the problem might not be so much the working student position but the person taking the working student position.

Agreed. The better barns I’ve worked and then boarded in might not want someone taking lessons or riding if they aren’t actually capable yet. Horses are too $$$ to let any ol’ person who thinks they should be getting stuff for free play at Dressage on.

[Angela_Freda]

@Dxarmbar06

Yes, yes, yes, not every internal organ, yes have worked on hooves, no exp w mares, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes did you not hear me say I’ve been working with horses for over a year intensively to the point where I’m sleeping in the barn with sick horses? I’ve given injections, supplements, gone around to restaurants collecting grease for starved rescues, I carry blue coat and DMSO in my freaking backpack.

I don’t have to do this right you know. I could just throw a curve bit on, carry a rubber tube on my belt and get my way by force, which is what most riders do (don’t even try to argue that). I actually want to do this right, but you restricting information is not going to stop people buying horses and manhandling them into submission like we’ve all seen at public riding arenas. Yes, I expect information to be given away for free, for the sole fact that more people riding correctly means less horses being beat with rubber tubes to make them turn.

Ah yes, UCDavis has missed including this gem in their refeeding protocol… You should contact them with it… I bet they would pay you for the idea even!

[ThreeFigs]

Wow! tell me more! Grease for starved horses, eh? What about Snickers bars? Maybe the OP needs a Snickers. Perhaps one labeled “Hot Mess”, or “Cranky”.

[Dr_Doolittle]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The responses here are both brilliant and hilarious COTH is blessed with many smart and funny members (which is why it’s so irresistible to open and read these types of threads), but honestly, folks, WHY are we still responding to this poster, who is clearly a T-word??

OP, I don’t know why you posted here (maybe to get your jollies from reading serious replies from knowledgeable people who took time out of their day to clearly and intelligently explain, respond to your questions, and attempt to help?), but if you ARE indeed “T-ing” (not sure whether it’s legal to spell out the word?) please knock it off.

[Angela_Freda]

@ThreeFigs

Wow! tell me more! Grease for starved horses, eh? What about Snickers bars? Maybe the OP needs a Snickers. Perhaps one labeled “Hot Mess”, or “Cranky”.

:lol:
and when he eats it he ends up being and looking like Robert Dover!
:lol:
Oh a girl can dream…

[Angela_Freda]

OP:
That’s not how this works. That’s not how ANY of this works.

If I didn’t know better I would think you were like a welfare queen of the Dressage world… wantin’ Dressage Lessons for free just 'cause… as some kind of Free Dressage Lessons cause I am Entitled Dammit program!

[Angela_Freda]

@Dr. Doolittle

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The responses here are both brilliant and hilarious COTH is blessed with many smart and funny members (which is why it’s so irresistible to open and read these types of threads), but honestly, folks, WHY are we still responding to this poster, who is clearly a T-word??

OP, I don’t know why you posted here (maybe to get your jollies from reading serious replies from knowledgeable people who took time out of their day to clearly and intelligently explain, respond to your questions, and attempt to help?), but if you ARE indeed “T-ing” (not sure whether it’s legal to spell out the word?) please knock it off.

Wait a TXXXl is kinda’ like an Elf, right?
Who loves the movie Elf?

This TXXXl is an Angry TXXXl!

[ThreeFigs]

@Angela Freda

:lol:
and when he eats it he ends up being and looking like Robert Dover!
:lol:
Oh a girl can dream…

There you go!

[Angela_Freda]

@ThreeFigs

There you go!

Just hilarious… I’ll be… snickering all day thinking of it!

[Dr_Doolittle]

You guys are the best

[merrygoround]

To the OP-Well Bless your litle heart.

[Unfforgettable]

Over all my years as a trainer, before I retired, I had working students. And they did work…long hours, not all the fun stuff…but they also got a lesson, every single day. And I mean every single day they were working, they got a lesson. That doesn’t always mean riding. There is a lot more to it than getting to ride a schoolmaster. There is a foundation to be built under every competent horseman, and that’s usually the most important lesson…and it’s the one you need the most, based on your rather interesting account of your experience thus far.

The few that survived understood the hard work it takes (and that means the trainer too…it ain’t all sunshine and butterflies, we put in long days right alongside the rest of the staff) and of those, not many chose it as a career once they really learned how hard it is and how little you actually earn after all the expenses.

I had a few that came in with your attitude, OP…and most of those beginners who already thought they knew so much (which was quickly exposed by their lack of knowledge) didn’t last a week. From what I’ve read here so far, it wouldn’t matter to me if you had tons of untapped natural talent. Your poor attitude, lack of humility, and insistence on getting something for nothing would mean you wouldn’t even get a job as a working student.