Dutch Mare and Oldenburg Gelding Being Sent to Slaughter on Monday

[Angela_Freda]

[QUOTE=Kyzteke;5663915]
The plants I’m talking about will be using private inspectors, although I assume that will be for meat, not handling.

And you & I will just have to agree to disagree.

Look at history and you will see I’m correct though --

… I think it makes much more sense to regulate AND ENFORCE higher standards at processing plants – at least then you have a product for all the $$ you spend.

Simply rescuing ALL the some 150,000 unwanted horses we have each year is throwing money down a rat hole…[/QUOTE]

You can not rescue all 150,000… they would be replaced by another 150,000 because the demand must be filled.

As for regulations, the USDA oversees and sets regulations for slaughter in the US, whether they pay for their own inspectors or not, the handling from the auction to the plant knockbox is overseen and regulated with laws and regulations still on the books today. Then, whether privately owned/paid for inspectors or not, there are county, state, and federal laws that the plants would have to comply with as well.

[Angela_Freda]

[QUOTE=S A McKee;5663969]
First I though you hadn’t read for comprehension but because you do mention that the forms will be junk I’m not understanding your point. But to make it clear…

HOW WILL ANYONE KNOW THE HORSE HAD BUTE IF THE OWNER SIGNS A STATEMENT THAT STATES IT DIDN’T.

There is no way they will be testing every horse, Those tests take time to come back. The processing plant isn’t waiting around for lab results of they test at all.

What do papers have to do with anything? The 6 month vacation is if the medication history is unknown. And they won’t have an unknown med history.

And even if papers were required well you can buy papers for bay geldings cheap, really cheap.[/QUOTE]

You’re so right, this is one of the main reasons I wish we were not exporting this meat for human consumption.

The EU is randomly testing and there are consequences:
http://canadianhorsedefencecoalition.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/eu-inspectors-find-serious-violations-at-eu-regulated-horse-slaughter-plants-in-mexico/

[LauraKY]

How did this turn into a slaughter thread when the point really is that another questionable “rescue” is using the “will go to slaughter” ploy to make money. There are just too many suckers in the world. As I said a while back, if you want to rescue a horse, buy one yourself out of the kill pen. Just remember, when you take one out, another goes in. It’s a vicious circle. And make sure that, if you do take one, it doesn’t get dumped with someone so it ends up back in the same situation; take the responsibility upon yourself and put it down. That’s assuming that your motive was to rescue a horse. If you just want to “feel good”, find a reputable rescue to donate your money. Which means you really need to thoroughly check them out.

[Ridge_Runner]

@S A McKee;5663969

First I though you hadn’t read for comprehension but because you do mention that the forms will be junk I’m not understanding your point. But to make it clear…

HOW WILL ANYONE KNOW THE HORSE HAD BUTE IF THE OWNER SIGNS A STATEMENT THAT STATES IT DIDN’T.

There is no way they will be testing every horse, Those tests take time to come back. The processing plant isn’t waiting around for lab results of they test at all.

What do papers have to do with anything? The 6 month vacation is if the medication history is unknown. And they won’t have an unknown med history.

And even if papers were required well you can buy papers for bay geldings cheap, really cheap.

My point is that the meat is not safe and unless there is a passport system in place soon for American horses to meet the coming EU requirements, there will be no more of our US horse’s slaughtered to head to the EU. They will not meet the new standards. Since the EU is the major buyer of horsemeat, then what small market there is will dry up and be gone.

Perhaps I find the idea of sending drug contaminated meat to another country for human consumption repulsive and you don’t…I don’t know…but I’m horrified at the idea.

The EU is not stupid and they are implementing these changes for the very reasons you state…anyone can sign anything and it’s meaningless. Also that 6 month feedlot stay does nothing to get bute out of the horse’s system (as it persists in tissues for years) or several other drugs that forever condemn an animal from being able to be eaten by people.

[jetsmom]

[QUOTE=mvp;5660895]
Sorry to be the complete A-hole about this. But yes, it is acceptable to “judge” without every last bit of the story.

Why? Because owning horses is a luxury with a predictable and/or reasonable set of expenses. Just about any time it gets to expensive, you can find some way to euthanize it.

Living paycheck to paycheck or losing your job? Fine. Put $1,000 in a bank account to use for euthanasia after you have exhausted all other options for your horse. Don’t have a grand? Fine. Get a cash advance or borrow money from friends. But don’t let your animal suffer because you didn’t plan ahead

The whining about “can’t shoot” or “can shoot but can’t bury” is facetious. You know whether or not you can do euthanasia and disposal “the old fashioned way” up front! You know the upper-level estimate of euthanasia.

You know (more or less) the value that you horse will have on the open market. You know how much time/effort/money you have left to put into finding a new owner for your horse before you run out of these.

But NO ONE who had enough money to buy a horse in the first place has a good reason to dick around until their hands are tied and they need to send their horse to a meat auction.[/QUOTE]

APPLAUSE!!!:yes::yes::yes: